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Dbarefoot

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« on: September 27, 2016, 09:17:28 PM »

Bachmann has duplicates of most of it's On30 stock. 2 styles of 4-4-0s, 2 porters,  3 geared engines, 2 articulateds, etc. Now how about an 8-18d 2-6-0 Locomotive. It's a bit smaller than a the Glenbrook engine,  but still a beauty. I request the 8-18d because it would also be an easy convert to an 8-18c 4-4-0. It's time to branch out into some 19th century locomotives.

You can't say no to this pretty little thing.



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ksivils

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« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2016, 06:43:28 PM »

I'd by one and then follow your suggestion and promptly convert it to a 4-4-0.
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2016, 01:43:23 PM »

While I do have a soft spot for 2-6-0s for a reason I can't explain, I think any good representation of a 19th century-looking loco in On30 in any class/wheel arrangement would probably be welcomed by modelers.
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Dbarefoot

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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2016, 06:51:46 PM »

I could modify the engines to look like ET&WNC #1 and #2, aswell as my personal railroad of the Barefoot & Southern. I've ventured into computer modeling, but nothing is as fun as hands on modeling. The 8-18d 2-6-0s would be perfect I mean perfect for most kitbashers, and protojunkies alike.

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ksivils

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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2016, 11:06:32 AM »

As much as I would love to see either the 4-4-0 or 2-6-0, I doubt it would happen.

These little beasts require too broad a turning radius for On30 and I imagine there is a limit to how much alteration can be done to the design to make a model of one of these take the 18 inch curves required for most On30 pikes.

If it can be done, I'll buy two. Grin
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Kevin Strong


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« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2016, 02:00:09 AM »

These little beasts require too broad a turning radius for On30 and I imagine there is a limit to how much alteration can be done to the design to make a model of one of these take the 18 inch curves required for most On30 pikes.

How do you figure? The current 2-6-0 has flanged drivers on all three axles, and fits around 18" without any issues at all. This mogul would have a slightly longer wheelbase, but the center driver is blind. If an HO Mantua 2-10-0 Decapod can fit around an 18" radius, so can this one. (The large-scale version fits around a 30" radius!)

In terms of the 4-4-0, Bachmann already makes one On30 4-4-0 and also the 0-4-4 Forney. If I'm not mistaken, those fit around 18" radius curves.

I think there's definitely a market for locos like this, especially with these colorful paint schemes. When I think of the folks who run their On30 among Dept. 56 villages and the like, these colorful Victorian-era paint schemes would be an absolute perfect fit. Likewise, for those modeling rural narrow gauge around 1890s - 1910s, I think they'd fit in very well as well. I'm not sure the colorful paint would be quite the right fit for the Duct Tape & Bailing Wire-type of backwoods railroads, but there's no reason Bachmann couldn't do a "basic black" version as well.

Oh, and Bachmann, while we're talking about cross-pollenation of moguls, I'd really love to see the On30 Mogul brought out in 1:20.3.

Later,

K

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« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2016, 03:29:09 PM »

I could modify the engines to look like ET&WNC #1 and #2
Hmm. I hadn't even thought of that. I model the ET&WNC in the 40s, but yeah, you make a very interesting case for that.
I think there's definitely a market for locos like this, especially with these colorful paint schemes. When I think of the folks who run their On30 among Dept. 56 villages and the like, these colorful Victorian-era paint schemes would be an absolute perfect fit. Likewise, for those modeling rural narrow gauge around 1890s - 1910s, I think they'd fit in very well as well. I'm not sure the colorful paint would be quite the right fit for the Duct Tape & Bailing Wire-type of backwoods railroads, but there's no reason Bachmann couldn't do a "basic black" version as well.
Very good points here. Maybe Bachmann might pay heed to them. Heck, they could always release a 'dressed up 18th century' version of their 4-4-0, as well?
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Dbarefoot

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« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2016, 09:38:50 AM »

It would make sense since Bachmann would only need to scale down, and slightly modify the tooling from their G scale versions of the locomotive. It would be great for all modelers.

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hminky

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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2016, 10:33:43 AM »

It would make sense since Bachmann would only need to scale down, and slightly modify the tooling from their G scale versions of the locomotive. It would be great for all modelers.

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~Dusten
Having designed plastic molds and mechanical devices it ain't that simple.

Harold
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Dbarefoot

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« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2016, 01:58:52 AM »

I know it's harder than it looks to do that. I'm just taking the example of the Ten Wheelers. Oh well I guess I am just stuck making 3d models, before some model manufacture actually builds the goods. Which may never be done any time soon  Sad



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NevinW

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« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2016, 01:13:52 PM »

All I know is that if Bachmann came out with a 8-18d 2-6-0 Locomotive or a similar 4-4-0 or something similar, it would be the end of my HO T&T as would immediately complete the jump to On30.  I would probably end up modeling the Eureka and Palasade. 
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Dbarefoot

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« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2016, 11:12:00 PM »

Let's take a vote to see who want's one. I'm not trying to bug everyone, but I would like to see this topic replied to at least once a day with someone who wants one. I guess that's one reason why some people are leaving Bachmann or On30; because there's nothing new in the loco department, and only so much you can do to the existing ones. Just my opinion. So let's see if anyone else want's some more 19th century locomotives like the 8-18d 2-6-0, 8-18c 4-4-0, or even a proper 19th century c-16.

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~Dusten
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on30gn15


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« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2016, 10:03:29 AM »

I'm going to have to give up and ask what 8-18d is because Google is only giving results like
"EEG machine Model 8-18D"
"Mercedes-Benz Vario- 818D"
"CMSC 818D: Human Factors in Security and Privacy"
"818D Rental Agreement, Dwelling Unit Only, Month-to-Month Tenancy"
"Help on modbus error 818D"
"Alcatel One Touch 818d Android"
"Diagnosis Code T82.818D
Embolism due to vascular prosthetic devices, implants and grafts, subsequent encounter"
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« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2016, 01:36:28 PM »

My vote would be for the 4-4-0 rather than the 2-6-0.  To the question about the numbers, they refer to Baldwin's shop code for locomotive designs back in the 1870's and '80's.  I don't recall all of it, but the letters refer to the number of drivers - C for four drivers, D for six drivers.  I believe the other numbers are related to the weight and other factors. 
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hminky

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« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2016, 08:56:39 AM »

A Mogul will go around radii that a 4-4-0 won't because the center drive can be blind.

A Mantua Ten-Wheeler will go around an 18 inch radius curve easily, convert it to a 4-4-0 and the locomotive needs a least 2 inches more of radius:



Harold
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