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TrainshockeylifE

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« on: January 16, 2017, 12:13:37 PM »

Has anyone noticed how bachmann said Rosie was shipping in December 2016? Why hasn't she come out yet? Should she come out this month just like the rolling stock came out a month later?
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Griffin


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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2017, 01:11:17 PM »

This could've easily been posted in ANY of the other threads. You didn't need to make a new one. And no, no one has any idea why she's late. Do you see any statement from Bachmann anywhere that would've given us more info?
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2017, 03:30:20 PM »

I agree with Mr. Griffin that this post could have easily been made in another thread instead of starting a new one.  As a matter of fact, Bachmann Rosie is currently the topic in The Everything Thomas Thread.

In regards to Rosie shipping in December of 2016, clearly this information has changed.  Keep in mind that Oliver (and I think Rheneas too) was expected to ship in December, but was pushed back to 2017.  Although the rolling stock has been released, Rosie is a locomotive and therefore the same principals do not apply.  The tooling for the rolling stock was already there because they were simple recolors, unlike Rosie who requires a completely new tooling and a powered chassis.

The best thing to do right now is just sit back and wait till we hear from Bachmann about what's going on.  As I said before (in another thread), the 2017 announcements are coming up in another few weeks, and I'm sure they'll have information regarding Rosie as well.  I don't know what the big deal is, but Bachmann Rosie has people more wound up than a hornet in a Coke can.

-Rusty
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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2017, 05:01:45 PM »

A final image of Rosie has been posted. http://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=258_259_261&products_id=6404
NO DELIVERY DATE YET!
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Griffin


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« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2017, 05:32:54 PM »

Uh oh! No new color! Apparently Bachmann didn't get the memo...  Roll Eyes
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HLC Railroad

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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2017, 05:45:38 PM »

No headlamp either. Odd, I was sure theirs atleast be a headlamp as she had a headlamp with that livery for a few seasons. Also is it just me or is she really mis-proportioned. Maybe it's the angle but the model looks really wrong.
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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2017, 05:48:05 PM »

I will admit the clean crisp replication done by Bachmann does have quite the appeal to the consumer. There's little to no difference between her model and CGI render.

Also I assume her original livery was put into production before her S21 repaint.

Overall, in spite of mixed responses, great job to Bachmann for the precision put into the design.

 


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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2017, 05:51:34 PM »

As I look back I see that it is perfectly proportioned except for the box on top of the cab, it's a little too tall. Other than that it's fine. I'm sure a different angle will look fine. Also the cab is clearly open, maybe cab detail. That would be amazing!!!
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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2017, 06:02:21 PM »

Bachmann Rosie looks awesome, but the picture looks very weird compared to the others. Rosie's picture is a lot smaller than the other characters pictures. Is Rosie a lot bigger than the other characters?
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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2017, 07:07:40 PM »

She looks great, now where's Rheneas?.
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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2017, 07:41:11 PM »

Alright, I said it on Twitter, but I'm sure half of you fellows here don't have one, so I'll just repeat myself here Tongue

Rosie is definitely a model that should've been worked on more than it did. I cannot pinpoint what they were trying to replicate their model off of.

Overall complaints:
-The Middle dome has way too much rounding at the bottom, and her front and back domes don't have enough.
-Her whistle is moulded on, like Oliver, and the bottom part of her whistle is unpainted.
          Here's an image comparing the domes between the show, and the Bachmann model, and this also shows part of the whistle not being painted: http://i.imgur.com/aw24wIS.png
-The oversized crosshead.
          Here's an image comparing the crosshead between CGI, the Bachmann model, and the Model Series: http://i.imgur.com/iyzxBud.png
-Her footsteps are not fully painted, just the outermost face.
-This is one I'm not happy about personally, there's no lamp. But that's just a personal preference.


Good points:
-The entirely open cab. We haven't seen one of those since Donald and Douglas. (Skarloey almost qualified for that, but for some odd reason they blocked off his front port holes)
-The face is very well done, the eyes aren't sunken back like some other models (Like Oliver, or Salty) and I'm very surprised that she actually got her rosy cheeks, I thought she was going to have just freckles, like how most merchandise skips over it.

All in all, It's not a terrible model, but its just confusing as to what they were going for.
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« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2017, 08:11:35 PM »

I have to say that I really like the Rosie model. It has great detail, and I am kind of glad they stuck to the pre-Season 21 coloration, as we have yet to see that livery in the series proper.
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« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2017, 09:35:01 PM »

Honestly, I think Rosie looks mediocre, at best.  I agree with a lot of the criticism Jesse mentioned and I'll admit that I don't think the face doesn't look that good either.  I'm surprised that they gave her an open cab, and I'll admit that it's nice that they finally bucked the trend of doing a post season 7 character, but aside from that, it could have been better.  I can't say I was expecting anything great out of it, (it is a model of Rosie after all...), but it doesn't look like it meets the same quality seen in other models like Duck and Oliver.  Not the worst model in the range, but nowhere near the best.

Personally, I would like to see a different post season 7 character from Bachmann in the announcements this year, and if they choose to do so, I certainly hope it will be a lot better than this.
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« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2017, 12:22:36 AM »

it's good to know Bachmann is self-aware enough to know that a mediocre character deserves only the bare-minimum of effort to call it a day.

with Oliver, we could tell they put a lot more effort than Rosie, but those efforts were ultimately futile because they followed Arcs whacked-up model instead of his classic model.

now if we see Rheneas and he's the same quality as Skarloey, we'll know that Bachmanns real talent, time and efforts are going to engine models that actually matter
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« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2017, 12:55:33 AM »

Although I agree with most of what Mr. JD417 and Chaz have said, I say (and keep in mind that everyoneís entitled to their own opinion) we canít really criticize the model too much just by this product photo.  Itís a possibility that this could in fact just be a prototype and not the actual Rosie model Bachmann plans to put on the market.

In terms of things such as the lamp and paint defects, I donít think we can 100% say this is an issue just yet.  I personally have my doubts that Bachmann plans to fit their Rosie model with a lamp, but Iíve been wrong before.  As for the lower half of the whistle and the outer part of the steps not being painted, again Iíll say this Rosie could just be a prototype used for the product photo.  Keep in mind that there are other models that share this same trend.  For example, Mavisí photo shows her without the hook on her front coupler, Spencer without buffers, the center of Emilyís wheels are unpainted, Salty has silver buffers (Dockyard Delivery Set #00696), and there is a buffer missing on Troublesome Truck #5.

I have to agree with Mr. JD417 and Mr. HLC Railroad that Rosieís proportions do in fact look off in more ways than one.  Whether this Rosie is a prototype or not, this is the tooling that sheís going to have and therefore is somewhat of a disappointment.  I have to agree that its nice to see an open cab on the model, but it does have me curios whether or not Bachmann took the time to add any cab detail.  Considering all the models weíve gotten before (Donald, Douglas, Gordon, Henry, Edward, etc), I wouldnít get your hopes up.  I do however like the fact that Rosieís face matches her CGI counterpart. 

So at this time, I have to agree with Chaz that Rosie isnít the worst model Bachmann has made, but not the best one either.  Personally the disproportions of the model are what disappoints me the most, but at least the overall shape and size of the character is there.  I think overall Rosie is a decent model and considering she was announced shy from a year ago, and already we have a photo of her, that ainít half bad.  Hopefully we can expect the same if Bachmann announces another engine character for 2017.

-Rusty
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