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SERABILL

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« on: July 01, 2017, 05:37:50 AM »

On the 4-6-0 anniversary edition, there are small screws holding the pilot rail to the pilot. How do you install those little screws? A nut driver would be good but I can't figure out what size I would need. I'm afraid that using needle nose pliers would result in the screws flying all over the room.
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BillBrakeman

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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2017, 03:38:51 PM »

Those screws are very small.  For that size of screw I use a pair of fine, curved tipped tweezers to hold it in place while starting it with a screw driver.  For larger, but still small, screws I use a tool which Micro-Mark calls a "Grabber" and Kadee calls a "Five Prong Gripper" which allows you to grab the screw by the end and start it.  I then finish up with a jeweler's screwdriver.

I just went to the Micro-Mark site http://www.micromark.com/mini-hand-tools/tweezers-grabbers?order=onlinecustomerprice:desc&show=48 and found thirty items that might interest you.

Bill
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SERABILL

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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2017, 04:21:16 PM »

Thanks. My concearn is that any if these devices would be prone to dropping the screw. Soemwhere, there has to be a nut driver that fits those screws. I don't know how much a jewlers screwdriver would be since there are no slots on the screws. They are all hex head.
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2017, 09:22:55 PM »

SERABILL,

The  4-6-0 Large Scale Anniversary Locomotive and its exploded diagram I have seen

This is the screw used
 

                        Phillips Oval #1 Screw

Use a #1 Phillips screwdriver with magnetized head.

 
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SERABILL

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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2017, 09:43:31 PM »

The obes that I have have hex heads. I see what you mean in the picture but Bachmann sent me the rails with hex head screws.
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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2017, 10:31:54 PM »

If this is what you have
 


I had connecting pilot in mind so disregard my first reply.





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SERABILL

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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2017, 11:58:06 PM »

This is what I have http://estore.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=66_69_623&products_id=8430

I don't know how to paste a picture here
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Tony Walsham

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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2017, 06:01:43 AM »

So that kit is called a Pilot Rail set.
I thought they were called smokebox stays.
You live and learn.
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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2017, 07:22:55 AM »


     Pilot Rail Set Gold  810XX-MTC14-15-G
     Left and Right Cowcatcher Rail and 4x Screw 10402

 Parts update??  as an Large Scale 4-6-0 Anniversary Locomotive (from 2006 production run)  in front of me has 2 vey small black Philips flat head screws in each gold Cowcatcher Rail.  These screws can be removed with Philips #0 screwdriver. I know - this is no help for you!.




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SERABILL

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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2017, 02:07:42 PM »

You're right about it being no help. I must have gotten old parts when I ordered them a few weeks ago. I solved the problem by putting the original rails on the new chassis. Thanks for your help and comments.
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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2017, 03:55:35 PM »

Yardmaster,

Bachmann often changes a product without changing its Product Item number (the online catalog uses term Model for Item)

What is the current Head Type spec for 900XX-10402 Screw?
http://estore.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=66_69_623&products_id=4802
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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2017, 04:41:29 PM »


     Pilot Rail Set Gold  810XX-MTC14-15-G
     Left and Right Cowcatcher Rail and 4x Screw 10402

 Parts update??  as a Large Scale 4-6-0 Anniversary Locomotive (from 2006 production run)  in front of me has 2 very small black Phillips flat head screws in each gold Cowcatcher Rail.  These screws can be removed with Phillips #0 screwdriver. I know - this is no help for you.

An aside ---
After checking -- I find a screwdriver with Phillips #00 tip is better to use than #0.

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