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pokie

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« on: December 11, 2008, 09:28:12 PM »

I got this train from tower hobbie in a set with the DCC E-Z command but it does not seem to be a smoking unit as it was described can any one tell if you have this and does it smoke   Huh?Huh?Huh?Huh??
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« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2008, 01:42:06 PM »

Union Pacific 4442 seems to be a 0-6-0 Baldwin locomotive. Bachmann's

http://www.pioneer.net/~fitzrr/mm4442.jpg

Interesting, a slope tender...

http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/products.php?act=viewProd&productId=494
Nope, that one has a Vanderbilt tender... Notice the roadnumber... 4441.

Quote from: Bachmann
...With smoke unit...

http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/products.php?act=viewProd&productId=1834
Hey, slope tender, but no picture.

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...With smoke unit...

Looks like your okay, there is a smoke unit.
I do not have this locomotive, even though I wish I did, it looks splendid!

Josh
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« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2008, 01:50:54 PM »

To make it smoke, you have to add the smoke liquid.  HOWEVER!!! I strongly recommend that you NOT add the smoke liquid.  It is oil.  The heat causes it to rise in a totally unrealistic cloud.  When it cools, it falls back down on your layout.  Two things happen.  The oil gets on your track and makes a mess, causing your locomotive to perform poorly.  Oil also gets on your scenery and makes it look horrible unless you are modeling the most run down section of a Depression Era town.
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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2008, 02:03:13 PM »

True. My friend seems to never care for smoke hazards. His ties look laminated due to his constant running smokers. Preferably his HO scale Southern Pacific Daylight 4446. (His 4449 has a broken tender/engine coupler) I seem to find a couple parts off his board-with-nothing-but-track layout were there is a spot of a oil-like mixture of lubricant and Proto-Smoke. He over-lubricates...   Grin After running his Daylight locomotive with smoke for some time, it leaves his soon-to-be ex-Train room with a haze. Lucky that both of us don't mind the smell of Proto-Smoke, (especially the Candy-Cane scented), but it isn't good for you, I guess. I want to ask one question,
You can dye Proto-Smoke black, right?

Yes, Proto-Smoke isn't the most realistic smoke. My friend's Daylight sometimes *pops* and releases a huge column of Proto-Smoke into the air, making it look like an transparent version of a Nuclear Bomb's mushroom cloud. By the way, his daylight is very slick, and very very covered in Proto-Smoke in the front end.

Here's a picture:


It's a bit big, but you get my point. Notice his Daylight's front end.

Josh
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bevernie

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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2008, 02:48:17 PM »

???To some, trains must look, act, and react exactly as the prototype; to others, it's just a matter of fun.   :oTo some, it is a bother and a worry to have smoke fluid residue all over everything; to others, it just adds to the fun. Personnally, I'm into the "fun" part. Who cares if it's not quite to scale? Who cares if such would never be seen in "real" life? Who cares if there's smoke fluid residue all over everything? Cry[/color]Mr. B, can I quote you? "HAVE FUN!!"                                                                                 THANX!!
                                                                  Cool                                   Ernie
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« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2008, 03:33:43 PM »

That's because you don't have to clean the carpet, drapes, windows, furniture, pictures, etc not to mention the cat. 

Having a smoking locomotive in the house is just like having a smoker in the house. It may take longer but the results are the same.

As they say "smoke if you gottem", it's your house. 
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bevernie

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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2008, 05:03:48 PM »

Well, actually, I guess I don't clean all that stuff, but I probably have a lot more fun than you do! Besides, I couldn't afford that much smoke fluid!!
                                                                                          THANX!!
                                   Cool                                                       Ernie
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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2008, 01:14:12 AM »

THE DCC VERSION DOES NOT SMOKE!!!!!
There is no smoke unit in it, if you put fluid down the stack,
you will be cleaning it up as it drains out the bottom!!!
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« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2008, 10:22:54 AM »

You could try putting oil down the stack - doubling the voltage and it will smoke but only once! I had 2 DC diesel engines from years ago and I managed to get smoke out of each of them, once, by running them on DCC.
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« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2008, 04:05:17 PM »

r0bert,
Can you fit a smoke generator in the 0-6-0?

Josh
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« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2008, 07:04:38 PM »

r0bert,
Can you fit a smoke generator in the 0-6-0?

Josh
could be done, but not recommended.
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« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2008, 02:20:02 AM »

r0bert,
Can you fit a smoke generator in the 0-6-0?

Josh

I can make anything fit anything with a DREMEL and a Blue Flame Wrench  Grin Grin Grin Grin
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SteamGene

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« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2008, 02:38:46 PM »

Anybody who wants to retrofit a steam locomotive with a smoke unit go find MNP - or Many New Products.  He makes a retrofit smoke unit filled by a modified Atlas water tank. 
Gene
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