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Title: On30 and Woodland Scenic tunnel portals
Post by: SteamGene on April 15, 2007, 06:43:24 PM
Will a Bachmann 2-6-0 and passenger cars fit inside a Woodland Scenic tunnel face?  My wife wants to run her Christmas train on VT&P trackage at the proper time of year.
Since she paid for the building, I find it hard to say "No."  ;D
Gene
Title: Re: On30 and Woodland Scenic tunnel portals
Post by: scottychaos on April 15, 2007, 06:54:07 PM
im confused..
it sounds like you have the locomotive, (owned by the wife) and the tunnel!
(on the VT&P railroad)
why not just run the loco toward the tunnel and see what happens?  ;)

or..if you dont have the tunnel and the locomotive together, what size woodland scenics tunnel do you mean?
a quick glance at their webpage shows 6 different HO tunnel portals.

http://www.woodlandscenics.com/items.htm/TunnelPortals

Scot
Title: Re: On30 and Woodland Scenic tunnel portals
Post by: SteamGene on April 15, 2007, 09:23:57 PM
All the tunnels on the Blueridge Sub are single track.  As to style, they are concrete or stone.
Gene
Title: Re: On30 and Woodland Scenic tunnel portals
Post by: the Bach-man on April 15, 2007, 10:47:46 PM
Dear Gene,
On the Riley's Run display I used S Scale portals from Pre-Size. HO portals are too small.
Have fun!
the Bach-man
Title: Re: On30 and Woodland Scenic tunnel portals
Post by: ebtbob on April 19, 2007, 10:39:16 AM
Gene,

      I have followed the B Man's lead on the PreSize S scale portals.   They really are a nice fitfor On30 equipment.   I also have so stone portals from Chooch.   With them I cut off the bottom 3 courses of stone to get an appearence I liked.   BTW....the Chooch portals are only about 1/2 inch thick as opposed to the inch thick portals from Pre Size.

Bob
Title: Re: On30 and Woodland Scenic tunnel portals
Post by: randerson on April 19, 2007, 02:45:41 PM
The Bach Man, & EBTBob,

Do either of you have a URL for Pre Size?   I was unable to find them with a Google search.

Thanks,

Rich
Title: Re: On30 and Woodland Scenic tunnel portals
Post by: Jonathan MacCormack on April 19, 2007, 04:16:55 PM
Try Yahoo:

Telephone......402-337-0424

www.presize.com

Type into" yahoo" search line....pre size...ifno appears.


Jonathan

Title: Re: On30 and Woodland Scenic tunnel portals
Post by: Jonathan MacCormack on April 19, 2007, 04:19:19 PM
TYPO....

above....".ifno" should be "info".

Sorry,

J
Title: Re: On30 and Woodland Scenic tunnel portals
Post by: Guilford Guy on April 19, 2007, 04:28:53 PM
Another great invention on the  new boards is the edit feature ;)
Title: Re: On30 and Woodland Scenic tunnel portals
Post by: randerson on April 19, 2007, 05:05:58 PM
Jonathon,

www.presize.com gets you some other site!    However www.pre-size.com works, it just needs the dash in the URL.

Cheers,

Rich
Title: Re: On30 and Woodland Scenic tunnel portals
Post by: Jonathan MacCormack on April 19, 2007, 08:32:46 PM
Rich,

Thanks for the correction.

In my effort to hurry and be of help, I goofed.

Thanks again,

Jonathan

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Guilford,

Thanks for the note.

J
Title: Re: On30 and Woodland Scenic tunnel portals
Post by: ginzokid on April 20, 2007, 08:46:43 AM
Walther's catalog for Big Trains should have the portals.
The Ginzokid
Title: Re: On30 and Woodland Scenic tunnel portals
Post by: MountAiryBob on May 03, 2007, 01:30:07 PM
New to the board and found this thread addressing a problem I have struggled with.

Although it was a little bit of work, I "kit-bashed" a Woodland Scenics double track HO portal to make a single track On30 portal.   I made a RTV mold of the original and then made Hydrocal castings of the double track portal.   It was these castings that I modified by cutting out a piece at the top of the arch approximately the width of the keystone.   The cut had to be relatively perpedicular to the top of the portal so that the two pieces when joined mated properly.    I then carved out a slot for a new keystone at the top of the arch and clued the a keystone back in place.   The resulting new opening was reduced by the width of the keystone from the double track version.   I also added three courses of block cut from another casting to each side of the portal to increase the height clearance of the opening.   Once some cosmetic cleanup was done to conceal the joint lines, a new RTV mold was made of the resulting portal.   I can now create as many castings of the On30 compatible portal  as I need.

A lot of work...yup.    Why...just because I wanted to.....and that's what our hobby is all about anyway.
Title: Re: On30 and Woodland Scenic tunnel portals
Post by: ebtbob on May 05, 2007, 06:50:32 AM
Good Morning All,

      As the B Man says,  the Pre Size S scale portals are a good fit for On30.  Here is a pic of a Pre Size timber portal over one of my MMI k27.   The portal is not altered in anyway.

[img][http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/pictures/14688/thumbnails/Narrow%20Gauge%20021.jpg/img]

Bob
Title: Re: On30 and Woodland Scenic tunnel portals
Post by: ebtbob on May 05, 2007, 06:54:33 AM
Sorry abut that,  I see that the one img tag is missing something,  let me try again

(http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/pictures/14688/Narrow%20Gauge%20021.jpg)

Bob
Title: Re: On30 and Woodland Scenic tunnel portals
Post by: ebtbob on May 05, 2007, 06:58:01 AM
Good Morning again,

     Sorry for the mulitple posts as I do not know how to put more than one pic in a message.   Here is a Chooch O scale stone portal.   I cut the bottom three rows of stone off to bring the arch closer to the track.  It is total of about an inch and a half cut off.

(http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/pictures/14688/Narrow%20Gauge%20022.jpg)

Bob
Title: Re: On30 and Woodland Scenic tunnel portals
Post by: kendoitall on May 05, 2007, 04:23:14 PM
Thanks much for the photos. It will save me trouble of checking the two protals out.
Title: Re: On30 and Woodland Scenic tunnel portals
Post by: ebtbob on May 06, 2007, 08:39:17 AM
Good Morning All,

       I want to follow up with the pix I posted with a bit more info on these two portals.    The Pre-Size,  S scale timber portal is about an inch thick and more light weight than the Chooch portal.   You may not be able to tell,  but out of the package,   you can use it as is with no further coloring or weathering,  although it would not take much to spruce it up a bit more.   I like the thickness of it because I can drill holes in the bottoms of the "legs" then put a small nail into the layout base and sit the portal down on the nails to hold it in place.
       BTW....if you like the Pre-Size portal or any of their other products such as retaining walls etc.  you may want to start storing up now.   I went to their website yesterday and the company is up for sale.
       The Chooch O scale store portal can also be used straight out of the box.   The only reason I cut off three rows of store was I thought,  visually that the arch was too high above my largest engines,  my MMI K27s.   The smoke weathering you see on the portal was done by the manufacturer.
This portal is about half the thickness of the Pre-Size so I will have to try to make something that can go on the back of the portal "legs" so I can employ the nail application to hold it in place.   I like my portals to be removeable if possible to allow me to reach into a tunnel for maintenence if necessary.  The Chooch portal is made of a resin(I guess) that is much harder than the Pre-Size portal and drilling into it could be a chore.
        The only thing I wish was available from Chooch is a blasted rock portal like they have in HO scale.
         Anyway......there is my info.   I would highly recommend either of these manufacturers to you, 

Bob