Hello Guys, Gals.............
Whats your favorite Williams locomotive ? Mine is a williams 2-8-4 berkshire for steamer and williams sd-45 for diesel. what yours ? anyone or opinions ?
the woman who loves toy trains
Tiffany
i like their berks myself, although i don't have one (yet). i also like the gp9's. i have a lionel sd24 chassis with a williams norfolk southern gp9 shell on it. it looks awesome. I've got a lot of comments on it. i wish williams would do a blue comet set, & a sd9, sd24, or a hi hood sd40-2. the only one of the three i would think they might do would be the sd24. they could use the gp shell & all they would have to come up with would be the chassis.
hello nitro man......
that would be cool, i think williams did a blue comet berkshire sometime ago. I have let it pass so many times that i regret it since. so i settled for santa fe berkshire instead. I think williams bachmann makes a scale blue comet hudson.
the woman who loves toy trains
Tiffany
UP Katy Heritage SD90
But the G ain't bad!
My favorite engine by Williams is the GP-9. I bought a Reading Lines GP-9 for $125.00 about seven years ago, has True Blast 2 diesel horn in it.
A much better engine then the Lionel I sold on ebay, the GP-9 was the replacement engine for a Lionel GP-7.
Lee F.
Hello phillyreading........
oh boy you beaten me by 38 dollars ,rats !!!!!!!!!!!! I paid 163 tax included for my sd-45 last month LOL
the woman who loves toy trains
Tiffany
Tiffany,
Remember that I bought that engine about 7 years ago!
Plus I knew the guy selling Williams trains in my local area, so I got some great deals on stuff he wanted to sell.
A Williams F-7(A-B-A, one powered A unit and QSI sounds in the B unit) Santa Fe el Capitan set of 6 passenger cars with operating knuckle couplers, $400.00.
Also bought a Pennsy S-2 steam engine & tender for $200.00 with True Blast 2 horn unit.
Most of my Williams engines run good and are quiet unlike Lionel or K-Line engines I had in the past. I had a Lionel GP-7 that only pulled four hopper cars, sold it. Also had a K-Line MP-15 diesel that the motors and gears were noisy when it ran, now sold as well.
Lee F.
I like the sound W/WBB make: the sound of the train wheels on the rails. Real trains make those sounds too!
I like the SD-45 and F-7 Alco's but they don't pull as much as my GP-9's.
My Pennsy S-2 steamer does really good if I can find enuff straight track to run it on, after 28 freight cars the train(not the engine) derails on curves.
My layout is 11 feet by 8 feet on the lower level, the upper level is 9 feet by 6 feet. I run the S-2 on the lower level so I can get it going a bit fast.
Lee F.
Hello Phillyreading.....
How come the sd-45's does not pull as well as the gp-9 ? does the sd-45 weight more and its longer ? how much does the sd-45 weigh as both engines have 8 wheel drive and 4 traction tires. does anyone would know ?
the woman who loves toy trains
Tiffany
Currently I have a WbW FP-45 and a WbB GP-38, w/ a GP-9 on order and due next week. My nod goes to the "38" so far (seems to have a bit more pulling power). That may change once the GP-9 arrives and starts moving around the tracks.
Regards,
GTB
The GP has 4 wheels per truck powered, on track. SD, EF-4, U-boats, FM's, and Dash 9's have 6 wheel trucks, but only 4 are powered. But most of the weight are on the powered 4. But my SD does outpull anything else I have!
Quote from: bluerose lady on October 08, 2010, 09:58:22 PM
Hello Phillyreading.....
How come the sd-45's does not pull as well as the gp-9 ? does the sd-45 weight more and its longer ? how much does the sd-45 weigh as both engines have 8 wheel drive and 4 traction tires. does anyone would know ?
the woman who loves toy trains
Tiffany
Tiffany,
It is probally due to the fact of having two extra sets of axles that are unpowered and the SD-45 frame is longer, thereby making it heavier to move with the same motor set-up as a GP-9.
Lee F.
Hello Phillyreading.........
thats interesting, i haven't thought of it that way. well i guess it doesnt matter anyway as my 4 by 8 layout is limited to about 8 cars, including the caboose.
the woman who loves toy trains
Tiffany
Hello All,
I would have to say that my favorite, although i don't have one as of yet would be the Southern Pacific GS4
Daylight. In my opinion this is the best representation of a Northern type steam engine that has ever been built. It's color scheme, sleek look, and just all out right beauty makes this my number one pick!!
Hello Kevin22..........
I would like to have the williams GS-4 myself but i think at this time Williams/bachmann does not make matching southern pacific passenger cars for it. My parents rode on the Daylight back in 1941 los angeles,ca.
the woman who loves toy trains
Tiffany
Hi BlueRose Lady,
I currently have the MTH SP Daylight set. I am thinking of replacing the MTH engine with the Williams GS4. I think that the color scheme is pretty close. If Williams ever does make a matching passenger car set i would consider looking into it; but i think for know this is going to look great. Thanks for the reply! Hope to talk to you again soon!
I like the BL-2 engines myself.
I currently own four Williams locomotives. My favorite has to be my Santa Fe ABA F3s. I always wanted Lionel's version and never got one. I looked at used Lionel Santa Fe F3s at train shows and realized that I could get a superior looking and also brand new product by buying Williams. Actually, ;D my wife bought the A units for me for Christmas a few years ago and I went back to the shop and ordered the B unit. Next in order of preference is my Pennsy Hudson, Pennsy Alco FA AAs and last but not least my C&O BL2. All are great running pieces and all have excellent paint jobs. Thank you Williams/ Williams by Bachmann for such a great product! ;D
Bob.
hello Kevin22......
youre very welcome (smile). Was there a problem with the MTH daylight engine ? I think the the Williams daylight engine looks better overall with just the right amout of shade of orange (just my opinion) if williams/bachmann makes the matching daylight cars for it, i would buy the whole set LOL. I have just 2 williams engines that is santa fe berkshire and sd-45. Kevin are you a southern pacific fan by chance ?
the woman who loves toy trains
Tiffany
The S-2 Pennsy is a nice steam engine and can pull a lot of freight cars as well.
I like the quality of Williams engines and passenger cars but wish they would make more passenger cars for the Reading Company. I searched the website and there might be one set of passenger cars for the Reading Company, also not many engines for Reading Lines either, like the GP-38. Reading had a large fleet of GP-38's, both new and re-conditioned.
Lee F.
I'm with you Tiffany. If they come out with the matching passenger cars I would buy the SP Daylight set as well. Until then my favorite is the turbine. I have the green passenger cars and they look great together.
Hey Bluerose Lady,
There is nothing wrong with my MTH GS4, other than it is Loco Sound, and not PS2.0. I was unable to get it in PS2.0 at the time;but i really wanted the set, so i went with it. It's an awesome smoker; but i want something alittle better, and in my mind Williams by Bachman's GS4 is exactly what i am looking for in an engine, and as i have said in other posts that for me it is right in my price range.
Yes i am a Southern Pacific fan. I would love to have been able to take a ride on the Daylight back in the hayday of train travel. So i guess this my way of getting that ride by have this set as my main passenger train on my layout. Well hope to talk to you soon!!
Kevin
Hello kevin22........
that's really cool !!!!!!!!! I saw the real daylight #4449 at the "railfair 99" in 1999 in Sacramento and this is the first time in my life i ever seen a real one and i tell you this much that the orange color of the side skirting really was bright as it sits in sunshine !!. The engine was in the sacremento railroad museum at the time. There was also a cab forward inside too. I remenber back in early 1980's there was often SD-45's in grey color with bloody nose on front roaring by near the place where i worked. the engines were a group of 3 ot 4 engines at the time pulling long freights......
the woman who loves toy trains
Tiffany
Hello lennyski.........
I LIKE those little drivers or wheels of the S-2 turbine, i bet they spin the big siderods around pretty fast and its a blurrrrrrrrrrrrr. I wish they had that engine in santa fe colors like my berkshire ( i know the turbine is a pennsy locomotive) but "so what", its a toy train !!!! SMILE and put the santa fe O27 streamliners behind it. I would buy that set.
the woman who loves toy trains
Tiffany