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Title: Baldwin 4-6-0 Bachmann 514.. series
Post by: charlii on November 23, 2010, 03:12:11 PM
Mr. Bachmann:
Please update us as to the availability date of the N gauge 4-6-0 (10 wheeler).
BTW November 2010 will soon be over.
Thanks
Title: Re: Baldwin 4-6-0 Bachmann 514.. series
Post by: the Bach-man on November 23, 2010, 09:42:43 PM
Dear Charli,
They will be here in early December; certainly by Christmas.
Have fun!
the Bach-man
Title: Re: Baldwin 4-6-0 Bachmann 514.. series
Post by: jmlaboda on December 04, 2010, 07:47:49 AM
"They will be here in early December; certainly by Christmas."

>:(  Then maybe you should relate this information to your dealers.  Brooklyn Locomotive Works sent out an email yesterday saying that delivery for December is questionable.
Are you being honest about delivery?  Or is BLW's statement more of the fact.

This is what they had to say...

"Alot of Santas were hoping to have the new Bachmann GP-7's, 70 Ton Switchers, 4-6-0's and Streetcars announced for October delivery ... in time for holiday gift giving. We haven't been able to get a word from Bachmann, but Walthers has now listed 'arrival dates' as 'unknown'. "
Title: Re: Baldwin 4-6-0 Bachmann 514.. series
Post by: skipgear on December 04, 2010, 10:24:38 AM
Horizon just updated the shippng dates on the GP's and 70T to 12/16.  4-6-0's are 12/31 date, which usually means they know they are comming but don't know when.
Title: Re: Baldwin 4-6-0 Bachmann 514.. series
Post by: the Bach-man on December 04, 2010, 11:16:34 PM
Dear All,
My information is still December delivery.
I'll post here when they arrive.
Have fun!
the Bach-man
Title: Re: Baldwin 4-6-0 Bachmann 514.. series
Post by: railtwister on December 27, 2010, 09:49:10 AM
Quote from: the Bach-man on December 04, 2010, 11:16:34 PM
Dear All,
My information is still December delivery.
I'll post here when they arrive.
Have fun!
the Bach-man

So what has happened to the N scale 4-6-0, GP7, and Peter Witt? Was their container ship hijacked by Somali pirates?

What with our Holidays, plus Chinese New Year, and Bachmann's annual inventory, can we expect to see anything new (other than price increases) before February or March 2011?

Bill
Title: Re: Baldwin 4-6-0 Bachmann 514.. series
Post by: David Leonard on December 27, 2010, 09:55:19 AM
The GP7's and Peter Witt's are in stores now.
Title: Re: Baldwin 4-6-0 Bachmann 514.. series
Post by: jmlaboda on December 27, 2010, 02:16:14 PM
 >:(

I think they lost the Ten Wheelers.
Title: Re: Baldwin 4-6-0 Bachmann 514.. series
Post by: skipgear on December 27, 2010, 09:06:15 PM
Quote from: David Leonard on December 27, 2010, 09:55:19 AM
The GP7's and Peter Witt's are in stores now.

Correction - they are in certain Baltimore area stores that seem to have went and picked them up direct from Bachmann. The rest of the world is still waiting and quite a few shops are ticked off about it.

The only thing we have recieved of the new stuff is the painted/undec 70T's and a few of the new 44T.

Still waiting patiently.
Title: Re: Baldwin 4-6-0 Bachmann 514.. series
Post by: David Leonard on December 28, 2010, 10:08:09 AM
BLW also has them in stock...On what I hope what is an unrelated note, some containers blew off an NS stack train into the Susquehanna River yesterday or Sunday. I hope it wasn't an eastbound train headed for Philly! It now appears we don't only have to worry about containers falling into the ocean.
Title: Re: Baldwin 4-6-0 Bachmann 514.. series
Post by: skipgear on December 28, 2010, 09:07:36 PM
Just checked updated delivery dates with our distributor. The 4-6-0 has now been pushed back to 3-31.

Between this delay and the FVM Hiawatha being slow to arrive, no Christmas presents for me.
Title: Re: Baldwin 4-6-0 Bachmann 514.. series
Post by: David Leonard on December 31, 2010, 10:03:48 AM
Kleins is showing the 4-6-0's in stock (with photos). If your distributor says March 31, maybe you need to find another distributor!  :)
Title: Re: Baldwin 4-6-0 Bachmann 514.. series
Post by: Franz T on December 31, 2010, 10:42:21 AM
Just checked MB Klein's website. No 4-6-0's there......
Title: Re: Baldwin 4-6-0 Bachmann 514.. series
Post by: jmlaboda on December 31, 2010, 11:12:18 AM
They are there under new arrivals...

A whole 21 models in stock... and that is only until later this afternoon when folks jump feet first into getting what is available.

Looks like the front coupler is a dummy... I just hope that it will be easy to change once a model is in hand.  For me I won't be able to try and get one until the end of January... and that is IF there are any to be had at that time.
Title: Re: Baldwin 4-6-0 Bachmann 514.. series
Post by: David Leonard on December 31, 2010, 01:59:21 PM
Someone reported that only a small shipment made it through in December. That must mean the various containers were filled up, which could be a kind of good news in the long run. For one thing, I won't have the money for one until after March 31, so I'm good with that.

Perhaps Mr. Bachmann can clue us in.
Title: Re: Baldwin 4-6-0 Bachmann 514.. series
Post by: Franz T on December 31, 2010, 02:35:48 PM
Just got an email from Pete at BLW confirming shipment of my pre-order...
Title: Re: Baldwin 4-6-0 Bachmann 514.. series
Post by: Roger Perkins on December 31, 2010, 04:36:19 PM
 :)Well, I unpacked by AF Pacific and set up a loop of track; been reliving my childhood when I got the set for Christmas about 60 years ago.
I think it is about 1951 vintage.
Title: Re: Baldwin 4-6-0 Bachmann 514.. series
Post by: jmlaboda on January 04, 2011, 04:08:52 PM
Well, since you  have been less than helpful so far Bach-man let me ask you this.  What does the ads mean when they say "separate domes and stack".  Does it mean that the stack and domes can be took off the model?  Sure would be a bit of a waste of electrons and typing if this is all that is meant.
Title: Re: Baldwin 4-6-0 Bachmann 514.. series
Post by: robderebel on January 04, 2011, 07:43:08 PM
 :)
Hello Bachmann,
  I have to say, you guys are doing some very nice work lately.  I do like the trolley, the 70 tonner, and the GP7.  The 4 6 0 is certainly nice to have. 


  I do think however, (*and this is a constructive criticism) that you could of made a different choice on the 4 6 0.

  Given that you were intent on using available tenders I would of changed the the prototype to a later more modern 4 6 0.   New York Central had some 4 6 0's that had
modern appliances, a high boiler that would of fitted the tender you currently used much better.
On top of that you would of had more room for motor and flywheel.   

The resultant change would have represented a much more common prototype and balance well with the tender you have chosen to use. 
  Since most of sales of these were (probably) intended for adults, the locomotive and tender (with its more homogenized appearance) would have made a more attractive combination than the current prototype you chose to use.
  I submit the above based on what I believe is most modeled steam era today, and that is the transitition era (late 40's to late 50's) when steam was still around.

Granted the prototype you used might have been around up until then, the I believe the more modernized 4 6 0 would of been more appropriate, and matched the tender you chose to use.

Hats off to the crews for doing reasonably great on all the new issues.   If I had any other concerns, its the lack of using the latest electrical pickup methodologies vice the wipers as used on the GP's and trolley, and the 44 tonner.   Experience shows cone axle electrical pickup is more reliable,  less sensitive to dirt and friction free.

Rob Anchorage, Ak

Title: Re: Baldwin 4-6-0 Bachmann 514.. series
Post by: tweetsieengineer on January 05, 2011, 10:37:36 PM
I have been looking for more info on this engine. I found this link to someone that is doing a review on it.

http://www.visi.com/~spookshow/loco/spec460.html

Turns out the engine and tender are wire together instead of the plug that is used on the 2-8-0's.  The only way to separate them is to unsolder the engine from the decoder.
Title: Re: Baldwin 4-6-0 Bachmann 514.. series
Post by: Roger Perkins on January 10, 2011, 02:52:09 PM
 ???
I am puzzled by the lack of comment from the Bachmann people on this engine, and also puzzled that I have not seen any ads for it online or by online e-tailers.
Title: Re: Baldwin 4-6-0 Bachmann 514.. series
Post by: charlii on January 10, 2011, 04:24:24 PM
Read in review article http://www.visi.com/~spookshow/loco/spec460.html
that the Bachmann 4-6-0 is supposively copied from the Maryland & Pennsylvania #28.  If so the bell is placed at the wrong place. Should be between steam dome and steam generator insted of steam dome and sand dome. Other then this discrepancy model is very close to Ma & Pa #28. Sorry can't say same for tender.
Bachmann don't take my criticism wrong, I very much appreciate your making this model. I have two and am planning on purchasing two more. Thanks!
Title: Re: Baldwin 4-6-0 Bachmann 514.. series
Post by: Roger Perkins on January 11, 2011, 06:27:27 PM
I have been following the comments on this locomotive on another forum; it is now "13 pages long."  One of the primary contributers is the person who uses the spookshow pseudonym.  I was very eager for this engine to be released, however now after reading all of the problems that individuals on that forum have identified, I am very skeptical about buying one.