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Title: MADISON CARS
Post by: 671 on March 06, 2011, 01:11:29 PM
I HAVE THE FULL SET (5) OF MADISON CARS "LUXURY LINES". MY CHALLENGE HAS BEEN WITH "RUB OUTS" ON THE CENTER ROLLER WIRE. THIS WIRE COMES IN CONTACT WITH THE WHEELS ON TURNS CAUSING A "RUB OUT" SHORT. ANY IDEAS ON RE-ROUTING THIS WIRE? HAS ANYONE HAD A SIMILAR PROBLEM AND A RELIABLE REPAIR?

                                 THANKS.....671


Title: Re: MADISON CARS
Post by: papa3376 on March 07, 2011, 11:09:18 AM
Hi 671,  I just looked at mine and I see that the wire comes straight back off the pickup roller and goes into the light bulb socket mount hole just to one side or the other.  Are yours routed like that?  Do you have a lot of excess wire hanging that could be pulled up inside the car to reduce slack.  Maybe others have a better idea on this.  Regards,  George


Title: Re: MADISON CARS
Post by: phillyreading on March 07, 2011, 04:45:05 PM
I have a couple of six car sets of passenger cars from the Williams before Bachmann time. Have almost the same problem with my passenger cars, the wires keep coming off at the light bulb sockets. Reading King Coal and Santa Fe el Capitan passenger sets.

The only suggestion that I can see is to use a more flexible wires to the light bulbs from the center rail roller wheel.

Lee F.


Title: Re: MADISON CARS
Post by: Joe Satnik on March 08, 2011, 10:17:28 AM
Dear All,

It seems to me that the closer to the bolster that the wire drops down (through the frame or hanging from the underside of the frame), the better.

How about sending a wire down through a hollow bolster rivet?

Hope this helps.

Sincerely,

Joe Satnik


Title: Re: MADISON CARS
Post by: 671 on March 08, 2011, 10:52:15 AM
Thanks again for all the suggestions. I should have some time this weekend to try these repairs. I let you know the outcome. I think the re-routing combined with softer wire should do the trick.

                         Thanks...671


Title: Re: MADISON CARS
Post by: 671 on March 14, 2011, 12:29:05 PM
Thanks again for the heads up, JOE and Philly. 
     I pulled as much wire as possible out of the chassis of the Madison car, straightened the wire ( removed the loop ) pulled half the wire towards the center of the car, bent it back towards the center pickup.
     This proved to be the simple "repair". The wire no longer "Rubs Out".
Simple fix.

                           Thanks ...671


Title: Re: MADISON CARS
Post by: 3rail on March 15, 2011, 12:05:15 PM
Dear 671,

We changed the wire routing many years ago.  The wires go inside the car, hook the two rollers together an then the go to the light bulbs sockets to prevent the problem caused by flexing.  We also have shrink tubing on the connection at the roller pickup to relieve the stress at that point.

Regards,

3rail