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Title: does anyone make this?
Post by: union pacific 844 on May 05, 2013, 12:04:59 AM
a derail er?
Title: Re: does anyone make this?
Post by: Pacific Northern on May 05, 2013, 01:55:04 AM
Try dallas model works, they have them

http://www.dallasmodelworks.com/products/productDetail.asp?ItemNumber=SU-135-2006
Title: Re: does anyone make this?
Post by: Doneldon on May 05, 2013, 03:07:56 AM
844-

There are a couple of versions of these made by different manufacturers. Check
the Walthers catalog. I think the one cited by PacNo might be the only hinged
one around.
                     -- D
Title: Re: does anyone make this?
Post by: Jerrys HO on May 05, 2013, 08:08:38 AM
My question is why would you want to derail your train? I worked too hard to get them to stay on!!!!  ;D

Jerry
Title: Re: does anyone make this?
Post by: jward on May 05, 2013, 09:30:57 AM
peco makes a single point type derail. it works like a regular switch, and would be easier to use on a model railroad than the type that fits over the rail.
Title: Re: does anyone make this?
Post by: Catt on May 05, 2013, 09:41:20 AM
Derailers are used on sidings the are connected to mainline trackage.The reason being if a freight car gets loose the derailer will derail the car before it can get to the mainline and cause a wreck.
Title: Re: does anyone make this?
Post by: richg on May 05, 2013, 11:11:52 AM
Make your own. Simple enough. Be different.


(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l267/richg1998/Picture1634.jpg) (http://s98.photobucket.com/user/richg1998/media/Picture1634.jpg.html)

Rich
Title: Re: does anyone make this?
Post by: rogertra on May 05, 2013, 02:50:47 PM
Quote from: richg on May 05, 2013, 11:11:52 AM
Make your own. Simple enough. Be different.


(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l267/richg1998/Picture1634.jpg) (http://s98.photobucket.com/user/richg1998/media/Picture1634.jpg.html)

Rich

These were very, very common in the UK, you'd see them or versions of them at every single location where there was a freight, or passenger car yard or on runaround loops, storage sidings in stations, anywhere where access from a non running line to a running line was required.  Practically every station with a "goods yard" had them.
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You can tell by the chewed up ties on the right hand side that this one has been used, maybe a couple of times.  :)
Title: Re: does anyone make this?
Post by: andrewd on August 03, 2013, 07:45:25 AM
quick question what's a derailleur and what does it do????
Title: Re: does anyone make this?
Post by: Jerrys HO on August 03, 2013, 08:32:27 AM
andrewd

read the whole post. richg,catt and roger covered what they are and why they are used. if you need more info it can be found by using google.

Jerry
Title: Re: does anyone make this?
Post by: andrewd on August 03, 2013, 09:30:30 AM
I'm still confused I don't need derailleurs on my layout so why do you or anyone else I mean sure they would be good to have along but wouldn't get a little annoying after a while to have a car derail on perpus 
Title: Re: does anyone make this?
Post by: RAM on August 03, 2013, 04:30:03 PM
In the real world a derailleur is to keep a car or cars from rolling out of a siding onto the main line.  Like in the real world the switch crew most check to see the the derailleur is not in place, or closed.  I don't know any one that uses them on a model, but they could.
Title: Re: does anyone make this?
Post by: richg on August 03, 2013, 05:17:04 PM
Quote from: andrewd on August 03, 2013, 09:30:30 AM
I'm still confused I don't need derailleurs on my layout so why do you or anyone else I mean sure they would be good to have along but wouldn't get a little annoying after a while to have a car derail on perpus 

It should be obvious by now, this is model railroading.

Rich
Title: Re: does anyone make this?
Post by: rogertra on August 03, 2013, 07:30:38 PM
Derail guys, it's "derail".

A "derailleur" is a propriety system for shifting gears on a bicycle.


Title: Re: does anyone make this?
Post by: rogertra on August 03, 2013, 07:37:22 PM
Quote from: RAM on August 03, 2013, 04:30:03 PM
In the real world a derailleur is to keep a car or cars from rolling out of a siding onto the main line.  Like in the real world the switch crew most check to see the the derailleur is not in place, or closed.  I don't know any one that uses them on a model, but they could.

In the real world, the purpose of a Derailleur is to shift gears on a bicycle.  :)
Title: Re: does anyone make this?
Post by: Jerrys HO on August 03, 2013, 09:35:09 PM
Quote from: andrewd on August 03, 2013, 09:30:30 AM
I'm still confused I don't need derailleurs on my layout so why do you or anyone else I mean sure they would be good to have along but wouldn't get a little annoying after a while to have a car derail on perpus 

Andrew I don't think anyone would use it on their model railroad for a functioning purpose, but to model a siding with one would be pretty cool and would probably be the question of everyone that sees your layout would ask.

I may even add one to mine.

Jerry
Title: Re: does anyone make this?
Post by: andrewd on August 08, 2013, 06:24:54 PM
man this is dumb derailleurs probably don't egzist so forget it
Title: Re: does anyone make this?
Post by: rogertra on August 08, 2013, 07:57:39 PM
Quote from: andrewd on August 08, 2013, 06:24:54 PM
man this is dumb derailleurs probably don't egzist so forget it

Derailers!!!!!!!!

Derailleurs are gears used on a bicycle.  At least learn the correct railroad term.  We'll overlook the other spelling error.  :)

Title: Re: does anyone make this?
Post by: jward on August 09, 2013, 01:44:41 AM
Quote from: andrewd on August 08, 2013, 06:24:54 PM
man this is dumb derailleurs probably don't egzist so forget it
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every day you show now little you actually know about railroading.

derails are extremely common in real life. they are a safety device that has prevented untold damage and loss of life. they prevent cars parked on a siding from rolling out on the mainline and colliding with trains should their brakes bleed off. had there been a derail on the mm&a where that oil train tied down, there would have been no lac megantic disaster.

on the railroads I was associated with, the derails were often connected to the mainline switch by rods running along the ties, so that opening the mainline switch also closed the derail. add to this arrangement an electric lock on the mainline switch, and you have an almost foolproof system.