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Title: This Years New Announcements
Post by: aussie geoff on June 30, 2014, 10:59:50 PM
Hello

Has anybody any Idea or heard any whispers of what Bachmann could be announcing at this years NMRA convention ?

Geoff
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: Royce Wilson on July 08, 2014, 11:05:57 AM
I wish Bachmann would consider making some of the small Maine two foot locomotives like the Sandy River 1, or the S.W.Sargent,it was a small outside frame engine.These engine make the IF 4-4-0 look big so what's with the complaints?.

Royce :D
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: max (uk) on July 13, 2014, 03:06:08 PM
In the past most of the NMRA announcements appear first on the Model Railroader website.
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: ebtbob on July 13, 2014, 10:58:36 PM
Good evening all,

      If memory serves me and lately it has been a bit AWOL....Bachmann announcements come out of the big show in Chicago and I thought that was in July sometime.   Correct me if I am mistaken.
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: Bucksco on July 14, 2014, 09:43:55 AM
Any new release announcements will be made at the National Train Show which starts on Friday.
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: Steve Magee on July 17, 2014, 12:03:32 PM
And I am just outside the National Train Show doors now waiting for them to open :-)
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: jonathan on July 17, 2014, 12:13:06 PM
Did you bring a tent and sleeping bag?  ;D
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: Ken Clark on July 17, 2014, 07:22:36 PM


   Looking forward to the WP&Y  2-6-0s, may need to aquire a couple.


      Ken Clark
        GWN
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: jim margerum on July 17, 2014, 07:39:39 PM
Hello All; We'll be rolling out at 4:00 a.m. in the morning, to get to the show by noon from southwestern Ohio.  Hope to meet some of you there. Jim
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: Mark B on July 18, 2014, 01:45:33 PM
The only On30 items I saw on the Model Railroader "New Products" site was for 2 unlettered (data only) box cars. One was boxcar red, the other was mineral red.
Is that all there is for On30 from Bachmann for the year?

Mark
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: Steve Magee on July 18, 2014, 01:57:37 PM
Not even that. Some new tank cars is all.
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: mabloodhound on July 18, 2014, 02:07:03 PM
Nothing new in On30 for 2014.
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: Kevin Strong on July 18, 2014, 02:13:03 PM
http://www.bachmannindustriesinc.com/pdf/NMRA_2014.pdf (http://www.bachmannindustriesinc.com/pdf/NMRA_2014.pdf)

I was very surprised to not see any new On30 on this release. We large scalers fared little better--a repainted mogul. Maybe they're waiting for the Narrow Gauge Convention for those announcements.  :-\

Yeah, that's the ticket...

Later,

K
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: Mark B on July 18, 2014, 02:23:27 PM
If indeed there are no new items, does anyone else also feel let down?
The next time the Bachmann says "anticipate..." I'm going to....... (fill in the blank).
How about it Mr Bachmann. What if any new On30 items do you have for us this year?
Are we not looking in the right place for the On30 listings or is there just nothing to list?

Mark B
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: max (uk) on July 18, 2014, 06:34:28 PM
Very disappointing. I'm surprised no more 18ft cars have been announced as the first lot seemed to be very successful.

I'm still hoping for a 2-6-2, but I'm not holding my breath.  :-[
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: Hamish K on July 19, 2014, 12:55:56 AM
if it is true that there is nothing new this year this is disappointing but not a complete surprise. The Bach man did NOT tell us to anticipate and Yarmaster told us that "any new announcements would be at the train show". So it looks like nothing this year. Can Bachmann assure us that they remain committed to On30 and that there will be new items in future years as well as continued production of at least some of the existing range? I am not sure that I want to continue in On30 if it is not going to have at least some new items in the future.

Hamish
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: Chatham on July 19, 2014, 10:11:12 PM
I don't have a dog in this hunt so what I say may or may not mean much. I'm now on a fixed income so with the higher prices I am out.
The problem as I see it isn't so much about the modelers, rather it's all the after market companies that I feel sorry for. Lets hope that Bachmann is falling back to regroup and not bailing on On30.
The pickings are scarce out there if you go looking at the usual places and stock is low.
Keep your fingers crossed and hope for the best. I think that Bachmann will be honest about what's going on sooner, not later


Rich R
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: Tomcat on July 20, 2014, 04:28:32 AM
Ok, we all know that the manufacturers in the US are going through rough times. We´re not through that yet.

But even as I understand that Bachmann will be extremely carefulto decide what to produce in the future,
I really felt beeing let down. First, you Bachmann folks did try to catch our eyes by placing a uncertain info
about coming products, then - nothing. Very disappointing.

I still hope for something Colorado-style... A C-16 or C-18, why not? All us Narrow Gauge buffs know the 315,
and it always had been wise to produce something the folks can still see somewhere out on the tracks,
so a Bachmann-produced 315 or 318 would be a cool thing...

But I do not expect anything the very next time, so I can´t feel to be let down by you, folks...

:( :( :( Tom
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: ebtbob on July 20, 2014, 09:52:29 AM
Good Morning All,

       I have to admit that I did not see all the new product announcements from all the manufactures at the National Train Show,  but I did see the Bachmann announcements.   As others have said, I am a bit disappointed by the lack of anything new in the On30 line.   Fortunately,  I have enough On30 equipment to keep me happy,  but,  new things seem to spur me on to the work needed on my On30 railroad.
        In the HO line,  I am thrilled to see a 2-8-4 available with sound and dcc.  I think the selection of NKP,  C&O,  and PM is nice,  but......would have loved to see a painted,  undec,  or NKP in service version.   Looks like I will have to break out the black paint and one of my really fine pointed paint brushes to get rid of the white tires.
        It was also nice to see the N scale announcements of the SD45 and the 2-8-4.   They will be nice additions to the already nice selection that Bachmann offers.
        There is one thought,  though it is not just aimed at Bachmann,  and that is choice of releases.   You will notice that I did not mention the HO 2-8-2.    I cannot understand why the past two or three years,  manufactures are announcing either huge steam engines,  such as 4-8-4,  2-10-2 etc  engines that are already offered by two or more manufactures,  or engines that only one railroad would have had such as the Pennsy S2 and the Pennsy only had 1.
         I keep waiting to see if anyone will do a Pennsy L-1 Mikado.    I have heard that there is one manufacture who says it is on the planning board.   I am sure that the first one out there will be a huge success.  I realize that the L-1 was a Pennsy engine but since it seems to be the one engine not offered in a Pennsy line it would logical to make the engine along with some sort of 0-6-0 switch with a slope back tender.    Let me also say,  I am not a Pennsy fan per say,  but working a train store,  the L-1 is a constant source of discussion.
         The last thing I want to share is cost.   There seems to be an alarming rise in prices of the past couple of years.    If it were not for the fact that I work at the store,   I would be shut out of the market place as I am on fixed income.  That is another fact that I see at the store.   Fortunately for us,  many of our customers are well established model railroaders,  but even they are really feeling the pinch.
        Again,  to Bachmann,  thank you for the announcements for next year.   I trust all will run with the same quality as release over the past several years.    Now,  let's see,  is there room under the coaling dock for the Berk?
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: Artfull Dodger on July 20, 2014, 12:55:12 PM
A pennsy L1 would be nice, PFM did very well with several runs of thier brass version in the late 70's thru the early 80's.  Definatly would be well recieved, nice follow up to the H10 being done by anohter company.  The general downturn in the hobby world has really curtailed anything new to speak off.  One of the LHS's is surviving on estate items for the most part.   Mike
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: ebtbob on July 20, 2014, 03:51:17 PM
Artful,

      You might be interested to know that the H10 announcement was well received until they showed the tender.   In my store almost 50% of the original orders were cancelled once the second run announcement was made with the low sides that most envisioned.   Those cancelled orders were then placed again for the second run.
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: Hamish K on July 20, 2014, 06:25:30 PM
British Bachmann have just announced in OO9 (the British version of HOn30, 1/76 scale on N gauge track) a WW1 Baldwin built 4-6-0t  locomotive and some rolling stock. These were operated by the British Army in France .See the Bachmann Branchlines site.

Perhaps this  could also be produced in On30?

Hamish

Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: ksivils on July 20, 2014, 07:02:17 PM
Those would make great industrial locomotives sold as surplus post-war.

They would also make great kit-bash fodder.

I would pick some up.
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: Skarloey Railway on July 20, 2014, 08:13:03 PM
Quote from: Hamish K on July 20, 2014, 06:25:30 PM
British Bachmann have just announced in OO9 (the British version of HOn30, 1/76 scale on N gauge track) a WW1 Baldwin built 4-6-0t  locomotive and some rolling stock. These were operated by the British Army in France .See the Bachmann Branchlines site.

Perhaps this  could also be produced in On30?

Hamish

Wow! I don't suppose many were expecting that. That's such a versatile loco. Practically any OO9 modeller can justify having at least one or more of them. It follows on from another company producing a ready to run OO9 model of the Lynton & Barnstaple 2-6-2. That's the same line that owned one of Bachmann's large scale 2-4-2 Baldwins.

There is an issue with an On30 model in that British O scale is 1:43 (7mm=1ft) whereas US is of course 1:48. 
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: darryl1936 on July 20, 2014, 11:18:14 PM
Kind of hoped there might be a three truck Climax or Shay on On30.  Might have to go back into HO just to fill my wants. Pity....
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: Hamish K on July 21, 2014, 02:50:48 AM
Quote from: Skarloey Railway on July 20, 2014, 08:13:03 PM

There is an issue with an On30 model in that British O scale is 1:43 (7mm=1ft) whereas US is of course 1:48. 

I am aware of the scale issue. There are 3 possible O scales for O narrow gauge, 1:48 (american), 1:45 ( european) and 1:43 (british). One possibility  would be to use 1:45 as a compromise - not too far out for anybody. Alternatively produce in the scale of origin and let people live with the difference, which is what Bachman europe seem to be doing, Liliput (Bachmann Germany) produces HOe, which is the same as HOn30, i.e. 1:87 on n gauge track.  Which would probably mean a 1:43 Baldwin 4-6-0t, as they were produced for the british  Army. I could live with that.

Hamish
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: rich19 on July 25, 2014, 07:45:47 AM
The WW1 Balwins are a dilemma both in On30 and in HOn9 (HOe). After WW1 they ran all across Europe - both in the UK and in Continental Europe (and even in North Africa). The discipancy between UK and Continental On30 is ca 5%, while for HOe it is a whopping 14%. As a subscriber to "Voie Libre" (the great French analogue to the NG&SL Gazette), I'm pretty sure they are very disappointed as they cannot be combined with the offerings from other continental artisans like Trains d'Antan.

Question: wondering all the time why US modelers would be intersted - did these Baldwins indeed run in the US after WW1?
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: Skarloey Railway on July 25, 2014, 12:31:33 PM
I recall that at the time of the Armistice there were a lot of stored locomotives awaiting shipping out from the UK, but I don't think I've ever heard of any still in the US awaiting shipping. I suspect Baldwin had completed the order and shipped out the locos. That said, I have a sneaky feeling that there was one 4-6-0 did operate in the US after the war, but I can't recall in what capacity or where.

An interesting fact I got from the wiki page is that the loco isn't an original design by Baldwin but based on an earlier French design, which Baldwin 'Americanised'.
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: ksivils on July 25, 2014, 03:51:56 PM
I believe several were used for training purposes for the U.S. Army's Railway Operating Battalions. I also believe one or two went to a southern logging line.

I have seen photos of these in the United States post-WW I but cannot recall where.

Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: Hamish K on July 25, 2014, 05:45:37 PM
There was also a similar looking 2-6-2t that was originally produced by ALCO for the British Army. When the USA joined the war a slightly modified 2-6-2t was made by Baldwin and others for the American army. I think that it was these 2-6-2s that ran in America after Ww1. I am not sure that any 4-6-0t operated in the USA.

I have often thought that the 2-6-2t would be a good choice for Bachmann to make in On30 as it was used by the US army.

I live in Australia, both the 2-6-2t and 4-6-0t versions were imported after the war to run on sugar plantations.

Hamish
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: Skarloey Railway on July 25, 2014, 07:23:04 PM
For whatever reason, despite being a better runner than the 4-6-0, the 2-6-2 was much rarer in the UK post WW1. Ten of the 4-6-0s operated on 4 lines different lines between 1920(ish) and 1950(ish), whereas only one line operated the Baldwin 2-6-2. The Penrhyn Railway, a N Wales slate hauler, bought 3 of them but didn't get much joy out of them. Eventually two were scrapped (I think) and one, named Felin Hen, found its way to Australia where it did good service on a sugar plantation line and ended up in preservation, albeit inoperable. Bizarrely (and I didn't know this till googling), it was then shipped back to France and has since been completely restored and is now running on the Tacot des Lacs http://www.tacot-des-lacs.com/ near Fontainebleau alongside an Alco 2-6-2 and several other US built WW1 locomotives.

http://www.fdelaitre.org/wp2/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Baldwin_1.jpg and looking very smart as well.

http://marc-andre-dubout.org/cf/baguenaude/felin-hen/felin-hen-english.htm has its full history

Both Alco and Baldwin 2-6-2s fared rather better [/pre] post WW1 in France. One of these was brought back to the UK in the 1960s and became Mountaineer on the Ffestiniog Railway.
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: max (uk) on August 22, 2014, 11:33:48 AM
Maybe, just maybe?

https://twitter.com/bachmanntrains/statuses/502837934635384832
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: Bucksco on August 24, 2014, 01:43:40 PM
If you all go to the home page and click on "Sign up for newsletter" you will receive monthly updates direct from Bachmann via email without using social media sites.
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: railtwister on August 26, 2014, 05:02:49 PM
Quote from: Yardmaster on August 24, 2014, 01:43:40 PM
If you all go to the home page and click on "Sign up for newsletter" you will receive monthly updates direct from Bachmann via email without using social media sites.


Just tried to do that & got the following message:

"Not Found

The requested URL /home-usa/286ahttp://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/newsletter.php was not found on this server."


Bill in FtL
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: Bucksco on August 26, 2014, 07:56:48 PM
Works for me. You may want to try again...
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: railtwister on August 27, 2014, 12:47:35 AM
Tried it again tonite, and got a URL address bar that read "about:blank" over a blank web page. This was hitting the link button while in Home Page screen. Went to the "Contact Us" page, and noticed the link button still showed when in that page, so hit it again, and it seemed to work. Went back to Home Page and tried it again, and got the "about:blank" page again. Hopefully, when it seemed like it worked, it actually did and I'll get a newsletter, time will tell. I wonder how many others had the same problem, and just gave up? It shouldn't be this difficult or require this much persistence, should it?

Bill in FtL
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: InsideTrack on August 27, 2014, 09:27:58 AM
Bill in FtL

We upgraded our server and ran into a few of technical difficulties. You should have no problem when you try to sign up for our newsletter now.

Thanks for your patience,
Bachmann Trains
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: Stevelewis on August 27, 2014, 02:31:13 PM
I just  signed  up  over  here  in  the  UK  and  it  worked  fine!

Steve
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: railtwister on August 27, 2014, 03:10:35 PM
Quote from: InsideTrack on August 27, 2014, 09:27:58 AM
Bill in FtL

We upgraded our server and ran into a few of technical difficulties. You should have no problem when you try to sign up for our newsletter now.

Thanks for your patience,
Bachmann Trains

I think I have successfully signed up, but I tried things again just to check it out, here's what I found:
If I went to the home page, either by entering Bachmanntrains.com into my browser, or by clicking on the "home" button at the top of the "Ask the Bachmann" forums page, I got the "about:blank" page and couldn't see the sign-on screen. If I went to any other page from that home page where the hot text link "Signup for newsletter" was still showing (such as the "contact us" page), it would bring up the sign-up screen just fine. But again, if I just type in "bachmanntrains.com" into my browsers address bar, once that home page opens, and I click on the "Newsletter Signup" link, then I get the "about:blank" screen with no sign-up screen showing. Not sure why the Signup link doesn't work from all pages where it shows, but that's the results I get.

I'm only writing this note as a FYI, not a complaint or argument, in the hopes that this info will be helpful in getting it fixed in case it is a problem for anyone else.

Bill in FtL
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: railtwister on October 30, 2014, 09:41:58 AM
Well, here it is, October 29th already, and I still don't know if my initial sign-up attempt was successful or not, since I have yet to receive a newsletter. Does anyone know if Bachmann has sent out any newsletters in the past two months? Hopefully, there should be something for a newsletter to talk about with Bachmann's announcement of their new & upcoming "BlueTooth" app for wireless loco control.

Bill in FtL
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: ScottyB on October 31, 2014, 09:23:56 AM
I've not received anything. I think the bluetooth thing is very interesting and would like to learn more about it. I was planning on asking Bachmann about it at Trainfest next weekend.

But I've not received the newsletter if there was one...

Scott
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: Dusten Barefoot on November 02, 2014, 05:51:26 PM
It's soon, going to be 2015 in a few months, and maybe they'll "crosses fingers" will announce an 8-20d 2-6-0 like the Glenbrook, or an 8-18c 4-4-0 like the Eureka. I don't have the means to make my own models of them, or I would have by now.

Rock On!
~Dusten
Title: Re: This Years New Announcements
Post by: Royce Wilson on November 03, 2014, 07:21:44 AM
We have been begging for that engine from the start,maybe it will come true. ::)

Royce