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Title: 0-27 Hudson with 80W transformer
Post by: Bandit1611 on December 03, 2014, 09:05:36 PM
Hi,

I just got the 0-27 4-6-4 Hudson Locomotive.  it looks beautiful.  Under operation it says i need at least a 90Watt transformer.  i have an 80 Watt i know its low but is there a reason why it requires 90W
Title: Re: 0-27 Hudson with 80W transformer
Post by: Joe Satnik on December 04, 2014, 02:54:46 PM
The most common 80 Watt transformer is the "chopped wave" Lionel CW-80, which wreaks havoc with loco electronics.

Most 90 Watt transformers have a clean sine-wave output, which is compatible with electronic sound boards.

Hope this helps. 

Sincerely,

Joe Satnik
Title: Re: 0-27 Hudson with 80W transformer
Post by: Bandit1611 on December 04, 2014, 03:18:56 PM
would that also mean the smoke generator dosent work well?  if i use the lionel 80?  Should i get the Lionel GW180?
Title: Re: 0-27 Hudson with 80W transformer
Post by: Chessie1971 on December 04, 2014, 07:46:49 PM
The lionel CW80 will work fine. I run all my williams engines on it. 
Title: Re: 0-27 Hudson with 80W transformer
Post by: Bandit1611 on December 04, 2014, 07:50:56 PM
Ok so if i wanted it to sound better i should upgrade.  However if i just want to run the train and get smoke the cw80 will work and not damage my engine.
Title: Re: 0-27 Hudson with 80W transformer
Post by: Chessie1971 on December 04, 2014, 09:01:24 PM
No it will not damage your engine and your engine will smoke better with CW80.
Title: Re: 0-27 Hudson with 80W transformer
Post by: Bandit1611 on December 04, 2014, 10:53:06 PM
That is great news thank you very much for helping me
Title: Re: 0-27 Hudson with 80W transformer
Post by: Chessie1971 on December 05, 2014, 12:05:40 AM
Your welcome!! ;D
Title: Re: 0-27 Hudson with 80W transformer
Post by: Joe Satnik on December 05, 2014, 04:27:41 PM
More discussion, including Len's response at the bottom of this thread:

http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php/topic,8723.0.html

Hope this helps.

Sincerely,

Joe Satnik

Title: Re: 0-27 Hudson with 80W transformer
Post by: M1FredQ on December 06, 2014, 11:23:46 PM
Hope this helps
I have a Lionel 1950's Hudson
A couple dozen WBB O-Gauge Locomotives(Steamers and Diesels)
Lionel Lionchief Plus 3 different types

I run all of them on 2 Lionel CW-80's. Everything works just great have not had a problem.

In fact my 11 year old son and I were running the LC Pluses tonight on those CW-80's and all 3 were smokin galore.

Yes I do intend to get a bigger and better transformer the Bachmann to be exact. It's just that work and time constraints as well as family have put a hold on some of our layout projects and plans.

Today was the first time in over a month we ran those trains and spent over an hour smokin up the basement, great mental health!!!