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Title: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: vaderdentist on August 31, 2015, 04:35:33 PM
Any production sample photos of the new 2-6-0's that are supposed to release in December?  I'm particularly interested in the Grizzly Flats Emma Nevada!  :)
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Chris9017 on September 01, 2015, 12:14:07 PM
And I just pre-ordered my Denver & Rio Grande model from Train World Online, and am very excited about recieving it.   
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Loco Bill Canelos on September 02, 2015, 11:28:13 AM
Hi Yardmaster, Inside Track or Bach man,

Do any of you know of any actual production photos??

Thanks Bill
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Bucksco on September 02, 2015, 02:36:21 PM
Nothing available yet (that we want to release). As soon as anything is available we will post it here.
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Loco Bill Canelos on September 02, 2015, 07:18:30 PM
Thanks Yardmaster,

Can't wait to see them!!

Bill
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: spdavie on September 19, 2015, 08:32:23 PM
Well... I was hoping to see the 2-6-0 before the end of this year, but I just checked Walthers site and it's showing April of 2016. I hope Walthers is wrong... is it?

Dave
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Tony Walsham on September 20, 2015, 03:11:12 AM
I need a new demo loco so these will be of interest.
My only wish is they have at least one modernised version.  Road name does not matter.
As nice as the old timers are, they do not interest me at all.
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Chris9017 on September 23, 2015, 05:33:40 AM
They should hopefully be out by Christmas according to Trainworld Online.
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Don Gilham on November 19, 2015, 04:44:14 AM
Does anyone have a picture of this upcoming beast ?

Disregard that - just seen it on Train World Online - it's the old Mogul re-done, shame because I was hoping for something new  :'( 

But what I do find a bit odd, is that there is no mention of metal gears ?  So the age-old problem will still exist - stripped gears, and for us that are not 100% adept at dismantling valve-gear and wheelsets (especially on the Conso !!!) another useless loco.
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Bucksco on November 19, 2015, 11:39:59 AM
The 2-6-0s will have metal gears and upgraded electronics. They will be shipping in the Spring.
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Don Gilham on November 19, 2015, 11:53:52 AM
Wonderful news, thanks :)  Is there any chance of the Conso being re-done with metal gears - or maybe just the chassis ?  I have two that are completely redundant (they look great, but that's about it  ;D )
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Bucksco on November 19, 2015, 12:46:26 PM
No plans to reissue the consolidation at this time. Replacement gears (metal) are available from the service department from time to time.
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Don Gilham on November 19, 2015, 01:25:50 PM
I have some, but . . . . . . . .   :o
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Bucksco on November 19, 2015, 04:08:14 PM
http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php/topic,30969.0.html
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Loco Bill Canelos on November 19, 2015, 07:34:33 PM
Don,

The repair is not as tough as you think.  Put it on a white surface or cloth. Carefully remove the parts and photograph each step.  As you go put the parts in plastic bags marking what they are and numbering them.  The procedure is basically the same as the 2-6-0, but your Connie's do have sprung axles, and you will have to be careful not to lose the springs.  The springs can be a pain to get back in, but doing it while you are fresh will usual;ly do the trick.
Reinstall the parts in reverse order and you should be good to go.  It is still a great Loco and a great runner with new gears installed. 

Since they usually have the parts for repair, you may wish to send them in for warranty repair,  Call service to check before send them in to be sure they can do the work.

Bill
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Don Gilham on November 20, 2015, 04:46:06 AM
Thanks Bill - and, I would think, a big thank you to you from all on the Forum for your help  :)

Age and dexterity (dexterity mostly) would preclude such a repair for me, but I would gladly send it to Bachmann and pay for them to do it.  The trouble is, I am in the UK (where I bought the locos)

So a question for "Bacchy" - do Bachmann UK do the necessary repairs ?

Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Bucksco on November 20, 2015, 08:18:42 AM
No "Gilly" they do not repair Bachmann U.S. products. Perhaps you could find a local dealer in your area that could do a repair for you.
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Don Gilham on November 20, 2015, 08:32:44 AM
Thanks Yardy  ;D  I would have thought that as they sell the product, they would give support for it as well.  Not a very goiod service as far as I can see.
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Bucksco on November 20, 2015, 08:40:00 AM
Bachmann U.K. and Bachmann U.S. do not sell each other's products. If you purchased it in the U.K. it must have been imported by a hobby distributor. In the same vein Bachmann U.S. does not sell or service Bachmann U.K. products. Two separate companies.....
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Don Gilham on November 20, 2015, 08:42:38 AM
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......... light bulb - ON   :)

Now I understand, thanks :)
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Loco Bill Canelos on November 20, 2015, 08:52:48 AM
Don,

Guess we are lucky here in the U.S. to have a gear warranty and a great repair department.  Still all is not lost, surely you have a local model railway club, perhaps there is some one in the club who  can do a repair for you.   Here in Denver where I live there is a hobby store which has a repair shop and will repair almost any train, maybe some shop in the U.K. or Germany could do your repair. 

I love the Connie, and I must admit they look good even standing still on the layout, none the less I  do hope you can find someone to do the repair.

Good luck,

Bill
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Don Gilham on November 20, 2015, 10:30:26 AM
Thanks Bill - you make railway (railroad) modelling a pleasure :)

Hmmm...tried to upload a picture, only 45 kb, and it says the uploader is full ?
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Loco Bill Canelos on November 20, 2015, 12:11:50 PM
Don,

You can't upload a picture directly, You must first put he picture in something like Photobucket or a similar photo storing program and then paste the link into you message on the Bachmann site.  I use photobucket and it works fine. 

I was once told the photo uploader directly to the site caused problems due to hackers getting in. 

Bill
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Don Gilham on November 20, 2015, 02:23:07 PM
Thanks again Bill - just to show the folks that I do have a railway :)


(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr286/donzdonz/Broome%20Lake%20and%20Eastern/smallP1120080_zpshcgsyo2j.jpg) (http://s492.photobucket.com/user/donzdonz/media/Broome%20Lake%20and%20Eastern/smallP1120080_zpshcgsyo2j.jpg.html)

(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr286/donzdonz/Broome%20Lake%20and%20Eastern/smallP1120108_zpslwjfqpyo.jpg) (http://s492.photobucket.com/user/donzdonz/media/Broome%20Lake%20and%20Eastern/smallP1120108_zpslwjfqpyo.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Loco Bill Canelos on November 20, 2015, 02:46:21 PM
Don,

Glad it worked, great pics loved the backdrop.

Bill
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Don Gilham on November 20, 2015, 02:53:57 PM
Took a bit of getting used to Bill - thanks for the comment :)

Indoors, a photoreal backdrop does it every time for me - except where it's not possible :)

(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr286/donzdonz/Broome%20Lake%20and%20Eastern/smallP1120087_zpstarnsh7p.jpg) (http://s492.photobucket.com/user/donzdonz/media/Broome%20Lake%20and%20Eastern/smallP1120087_zpstarnsh7p.jpg.html)

I've changed the tender body on the Annie.

(The railway does eventually go out to the garden)

Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Loco Bill Canelos on November 20, 2015, 03:00:59 PM
Quite a stable of U.S. Bachmann Loco's.  Nice job on the painting, weathering, lettering and modifications.
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Don Gilham on November 20, 2015, 05:03:33 PM
Once again - thanks Bill :)
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Don Gilham on November 21, 2015, 05:50:40 AM
Quote from: Yardmaster on November 20, 2015, 08:40:00 AM
Bachmann U.K. and Bachmann U.S. do not sell each other's products. If you purchased it in the U.K. it must have been imported by a hobby distributor. In the same vein Bachmann U.S. does not sell or service Bachmann U.K. products. Two separate companies.....

I hate to disagree, Yardmaster, but please click on this link :

http://www.bachmann.co.uk/prod1.php?prod_selected=americanls&prod=1

So surely they should offer to repair locos - I am not talking about under warranty, I would gladly pay to get the repair done (ie the replacement metal gears for the Conso)
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Loco Bill Canelos on November 21, 2015, 10:05:43 AM
Don,

Step back and think about things, I know you are upset about repairs to your Connie, but..............

Seems to me you are picking a fight with Bachmann U.S.  when you should be picking a fight with Bachmann U.K.  It  seems that Bachmann U.K. does import at least some U.S. products, information perhaps not available to Yardmaster since Bachmann U.K. is a separate  company.   Bachmann U.K. does offer a repair service!!!

In my mind you should get into immediate contact with Bachmann U.K. and find out if in the past they sold Connies in the U.K.   If so then I would avail myself of their repair services, which are detailed in the following link on their website:

http://www.bachmann.co.uk/service/s_charge.php

If they will not help you, then by all means take up your issues with Bachmann U.K.  and avail yourself of any consumer protections the U.K. might offer.   It does not seem right to me to blame Bachmann U.S. since you could at your expense send your Connies here to the U.S. for repairs under the  current charges offered buy Bachmann U.S.
The Bachmann U.K. repair option seems to be similar in most part to the U.S. repair option, assuming they sold Connies in the past in the U.K.

If Bachmann U.K. cannot repair your Connies, I feel sure you can get help from a local club or group, Bachmann U.K. seems to offer a great bit of help finding a local club right on their web site:

http://www.bachmann.co.uk/clubs/clubs.php

Keep Calm and Railroad On, help is available closer to home than you may think.

Good luck with your repairs!!

Loco Bill

Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Don Gilham on November 21, 2015, 10:07:07 AM
Please don't get me wrong Bill - but it's just that when I am told something, and find that it's not quite right, I have to question it :)

EDIT :  That is a brilliant link you sent, Bill - thanks so much.  I have a feeling that my problems may be solved.  The strength of feeling that may come across, is because I think the Conso is one of the very best models produced - ever.  And, as you can tell from my photos, I am a HUGE fan of Bachmann U.S.  :)
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Bucksco on November 21, 2015, 10:35:37 AM
Not too proud to admit when I am wrong. Wasn't aware that Bachmann U.K. sell our products - albeit in a more limited form. I work for Bachmann U.S. where we do not sell or distribute Bachmann U.K. products. I seriously doubt that they would be able to service our products though. Production runs are done for Bachmann U.S. and the parts are shipped to the U.S.
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Don Gilham on November 21, 2015, 10:38:35 AM
You are a Gentleman and a Schlolar (as we say over here) Yardmaster - thank you.  And please don't think I was having a go at Bachmann U S - they are the ones who have me embroiled in this superb hobby, following US Narrow Gauge :)
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Loco Bill Canelos on November 21, 2015, 10:46:43 AM
Don,

While I have no problem questioning things, I do try to give the benefit of the doubt when a person is doing their best with the knowledge and understanding they have about a topic.  I know in my own case I have made statements on this forum that have turned out to be wrong even though I thought I had the correct information.  I do hope forum members who saw this at least understood that I was doing my best with the information available.  I try, but like most I do make mistakes even if in good faith.


I took a little time to look at the link to the clubs in the U.K.   I am amazed at the number of clubs you have compared to the U.S.  Seems like there must be a club every 20 miles in every direction.  I* have no doubt after looking at the lists you can find one who can help you repair your Connies even if you have to send to the U.S. for the gears.

Again, good luck with your repairs.   Where there is a will there is a way!!!  The Bachmann site in the U.K. is very interesting and they make a few Items I wish were available in Large Scale here in the U.S.  

Bill
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Don Gilham on November 21, 2015, 10:48:21 AM
Gentleman and Scholar applies to you, too, Bill :)
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: spdavie on January 22, 2016, 09:27:57 PM
I did a search to see if there was any new info on the upcoming Spectrum 2-6-0's. I was led to the Bachmann store...Low and behold there are now actual pictures of the models and HOLY WOW do they look GREAT!! The Emma Neveda is amazing and Bachmann even put the air pump on the correct side. Are they still on target for a April delivery?

Dave
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Tony Walsham on January 23, 2016, 12:06:38 AM
One lives in hope Bachmann will get with it and make some modernised versions.
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: bob kaplan on January 23, 2016, 08:04:32 AM
I will second that a third and forth time! ;D
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Chris9017 on January 27, 2016, 01:22:37 AM
Now I am even more excited about my purchase of the D&RGW 15, it looks GORGEOUS!!!!!!  WOW!!!!!!  Well done Bachmann!!!
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Mark Oles on January 27, 2016, 02:52:06 PM
Wow!

All three models look fantastic!! I didn't expect the horizontal bar pilot on the E&P version!  I still love that Grizzly Flats RR version.
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Chris9017 on March 25, 2016, 01:10:09 AM
Any updates on when we should expect the new Moguls?
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Bucksco on March 29, 2016, 06:04:00 PM
Probably May/June.
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: tac on April 07, 2016, 09:55:13 AM
In support of Bachmann UK, not only was every one of my seven LS Spectrum logging locomotives bought right here in UK, but the replacement metal gear set for my non-logging Connie also came from Hinkley, Bachmann UK's headquarters.

Nothing else, mind, but at least they had what I really needed at the time.

tac
Ottawa Valley GRS
POCRR Extension of the OML
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Chris9017 on April 12, 2016, 04:04:40 AM
Ironically the coaches to the Moguls were announced a year later, and they are out before the Moguls themselves, and are being sold at online stores.   I already have 2 coaches on order and can't wait to receive them.  I sure hope the Moguls become available soon. ;)
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: Mark Oles on May 16, 2016, 11:11:44 AM
I saw the Grizzly Flats coach and combine with the pre-production model at the ECLSTS.  Beautiful set.  I may have to add it to our roster.
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: bob kaplan on July 06, 2016, 02:04:01 PM
Will the updated 2-6-0 rely on the same two pins projecting down from the frame to keep the center drivers on the track and above the railhead so they do not drop below on sharper radii....or has another method been found.  I have the earlier model and on some LGB switches (the larger ones of course  16000)  the center wheels of the Mogul drop below the rail head....and the pins, if left in place, catch on the frog of the switch.   And count me among those that would enjoy a modernize version of this engine.   Thanks.
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: the Bach-man on July 06, 2016, 09:44:06 PM
Dear Bob,
I haven't seen a running sample yet; only paint samples.
I'll see what I can find out.
Thanks!
the Bach-man
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: bob kaplan on July 06, 2016, 09:49:29 PM
Thank you Mr. B.   It would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: StanAmes on July 07, 2016, 10:49:55 PM
Quote from: bob kaplan on July 06, 2016, 02:04:01 PM
Will the updated 2-6-0 rely on the same two pins projecting down from the frame to keep the center drivers on the track and above the railhead so they do not drop below on sharper radii....or has another method been found.  I have the earlier model and on some LGB switches (the larger ones of course  16000)  the center wheels of the Mogul drop below the rail head....and the pins, if left in place, catch on the frog of the switch.   And count me among those that would enjoy a modernize version of this engine.   Thanks.

The new 2-6-0 has a lot of new features and is basically a new locomotive.  The center driver uses the same approach as the C-19

The center driver is fully sprung.  In order to get around tight radius curves, there is a spacer on the bottom cover plate that lifts the driver so that it is just touching the rail.  The locomotive will actually go around R1 curves but since the center driver still touches the rail it will short going over R1 turnouts if the rail is powered as the center driver will touch the powered diverging rail on the turnout.

For larger curves  >5 ft radius, the spacer can be removed from the center driver which adds a little more traction as the spring on the center driver is now functional.

Hope that helps

Stan
Title: Re: Upcoming 2-6-0s
Post by: bob kaplan on July 08, 2016, 10:13:34 AM
that sounds encouraging.....thank you.
bob