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Title: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Griffin on December 15, 2015, 07:52:46 PM
I went back a few pages to see if I could dig up an old thread rather than making another new one, but I couldn't, so here we are.

If I'm not mistaken, doesn't Bachmann announce new products in a mere TWO months (February) or am I completely wrong?

Either way, it's been almost a year since new products were announced and this probably means new ones are coming up...eventually... ::)

So! Predictions...

*Any redundant thoughts or un-original ideas found throughout are credited to the original authors*

ENGINES

PAXTON
Easy. He's a repaint and since we got a whopping THREE NEW TOOLINGS (Oliver Toad Skarloey) last year, I think it's safe to say a repaint of some sort is, obviously (and, perhaps, unfortunately?), inevitable.

DAISY
Eh. I don't know. She's a new character, recently re-introduced, mildly popular, and even though she's a new tooling (I think...??? Sorry, Bachmann experts) she's basically a giant rectangle. Easy, right? Maybe? No? Alright then...

Really those are the only ones I see really happening, unless Bachmann says "enough" and doesn't even give us a new engine, which is highly possible as well. I think it has happened before, right?

Anywho...

ROLLING STOCK

FLATCAR WITH [INSERT GENERIC LOAD HERE]

This one is a bit of wishful thinking for me. I've been searching for a while for the flatcar with paint-drums, but to no avail. *sigh.* Anyway, I think this one would be a cool re-introduction seeing as flatcars (beds?) are becoming more and more prominent in the TV Series. "Philip to the Rescue", anyone?

TROUBLESOME TRUCK #6

Not much to say about this one, really. I envision a Troublesome Truck #1 or #2, but with a CGI face. A simple mod to give the range a bit of a modern Thomas-touch.

That's all. I feel so uncreative right now, and to be very honest I don't care very much about Resin or Large Scale, but if this thread turns out to be a hit (wishful thinking on my part, really :)) feel free to post your ideas for those if you like.

-R


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on December 15, 2015, 07:56:05 PM
There was a Thomas & Friends in 2016 thread, but I advise you be careful, because a while back it was deleted by a Moderator. I am just giving some helpful advice that we need. to be careful with these type of threads.  :)


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Griffin on December 15, 2015, 07:56:53 PM
Yikes. No wonder I couldn't find it... :-[


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on December 15, 2015, 08:01:12 PM
Yikes. No wonder I couldn't find it... :-[

I wasn't trying to scare or put you off or anything. I like this type of thread. I can't understand why it was deleted, but or some reason it was.  :)


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Griffin on December 15, 2015, 08:27:55 PM
The lack of responses from members other than Jacob scares me a bit... :-\


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: TrainMan2001 on December 15, 2015, 10:23:29 PM
My hopes/predictions are:

HO Scale:

Daisy, because she was recently reintroduced to the series, and Oliver got a model a year after his reintroduction.

And....

Winston, because he has been seen a few times since production, and because bachmann have made smaller models before.

Rolling Stock:

I would honestly want to see a Troublesome Truck #5 before a #6, and it may be possible beacause Troublesome Truck #4 was announced in 2013, three years after Troublesome Truck #3.

Why not some separate sale Christmas Rolling Stock, like a new Holiday Coach, modeled after the Large Scale one, or just the ones in the sets sold separately instead of, you know, in a set.

Accessories:

To go with the Christmas stock, why not separately sale the Santa Hat and the Snowplow for Thomas.

I am not going to predict Narrow Gauge, so moving onto Large Scale.

Large Scale:

Edward, because he is the perfect size for it, and he has been in demand for a while.

Bill and Ben, because they have the same tooling, but they would bring two models for the year.

Rolling Stock:

Ventilated Van, because it would be another closed wagon tooling in the range.

Henrietta, because Toby needs to be complete, and she was introduced into the HO range two years after Toby was released.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: AJW98Productions on December 16, 2015, 01:03:34 AM
The lack of responses from members other than Jacob scares me a bit... :-\
Don't be too concerned, many members on here live in completely different time zones and as their lives get busier in the holiday season, less time becomes available for the online world, it's hit me to an extent even, but don't be concerned about this thread getting deleted, I believe the old one was deleted due to copious amounts of spam from two trolls, in fact they spammed a few different topics as well (from memory).

Anyway I'm predicting that for the HO line, we will likely get Paxton and maybe a "new" truck/freight car of some kind, for myself anyway, I'm hoping for a brown Salt Van to be released with a face at some point...not sure how likely that is but that's just an idea...

Narrow Gauge: I imagine Bachmann will probably shift focus towards this range for a little while, I'd say especially in 2016 and 2017 (I could be entirely wrong though). Next year I'm hoping that we'll see Rheneas released into the range to join Skarloey, along with, at the very least, a brown Brakevan similar to that seen in season 4 that was used on freight trains (and for the Green and White Narrow Gauge Coaches), but ideally I'd hope they'd also add the Blue and White Coaches, along with a Blue Brakevan to match them. I bring up the Blue and White Coaches as they are seen constantly in Season 4 and even other seasons, I think all narrow Gauge engines (with maybe a few exceptions post Season...9 I think?), have been seen pulling them, and also they are quite similar to the standard livery for all Skarloey Railway Coaches (I believe) in the Railway Series, which means that they have greater potential to cater to Railway Series and TV Series fans alike...in my eyes at least...

Large Scale...honestly Bachmann caught me very off guard with Winston, and as a result of such a "curve-ball" I guess one could say, I don't really know what to expect for 2016...so I'll leave the predictions for Large Scale to those who seem to be traditionally better at predicting items, or seem to have more insight into it then I do.

Anyway, that's my two cents.

~Alex


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on December 16, 2015, 02:22:54 AM
Well I guess since we have a new thread up, might as well have a little fun with it even though announcements are in about two months.  Though at this point, I'm positive that Bachmann probably already knows what they are doing for next year. 

In short I don't expect a whole lot next year with Oliver and Winston being delayed, but at the same time Bachmann surprised us before with some delayed products in hand before so there's at least that in mind too.  My thoughts are pretty much the same as the majority in regards to Paxton and Rheneas and some more rolling stock for narrow gauge.  Daisy would be a nice surprise but I would think Paxton would make more sense because he'd be easier and cheaper for Bachmann to pull off.  While it's really hard to tell where Bachmann is going to go with large scale next year based on what we got this year, I would at the very least like to see Henrietta. 


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on December 16, 2015, 05:10:37 AM
The lack of responses from members other than Jacob scares me a bit... :-\

I do not mean to scare you RyanGNR. I am very sorry.

This what I want in 2016:

Bachmann Thomas & Friends Locomotives:

Daisy
BoCo
Arthur
Molly
Rosie

Bachmann Thomas & Friends Coaches:

Red Express Composite Coach - Re-Release
Red Express Brake Coach - Re-Release
Spencer's Special Brake Coach
Henrietta (With Face)

Bachmann Thomas & Friends Wagons:

Troublesome Truck #5

Bachmann Thomas & Friends Narrow Gauge:

Narrow Gauge Rheneas
Narrow Gauge Red Coach
Narrow Gauge Red Brake Van
Narrow Gauge Grey Brake Van

This Reply was Updated on Friday 18th December 2015 @ UK time, 15:02pm.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Metal on December 16, 2015, 06:10:57 AM
Perhaps another reason why alot of people aren't being very responsive isn't just because of Christmas, but also the time when most of us are trying to get through our final exams, and spend time studying. At times these days, I've often been thinking if I even have time for my Thomas interest.

And on other note, I personally think it's best to wait for Bachmann's announcements next year, instead of making another 2016 thread, since the year's almost over anyway.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on December 16, 2015, 06:38:47 AM
Perhaps another reason why alot of people aren't being very responsive isn't just because of Christmas, but also the time when most of us are trying to get through our final exams, and spend time studying. At times these days, I've often been thinking if I even have time for my Thomas interest.

And on other note, I personally think it's best to wait for Bachmann's announcements next year, instead of making another 2016 thread, since the year's almost over anyway.

I see what you mean as it already the 16th December now, and Christmas Day is approaching fast now, but in excitement for Christmas, the New Year and Bachmann's new 2016 announcements in the Thomas & Friends range, this article will start getting everbody wondering what Bachmann will be bringing out next year. By using this thread, we can share with each other what our predications are for next years new releases. I always look forward to the new announcements. I am sure everybody does.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: AJW98Productions on December 16, 2015, 07:31:00 AM
Perhaps another reason why alot of people aren't being very responsive isn't just because of Christmas, but also the time when most of us are trying to get through our final exams, and spend time studying. At times these days, I've often been thinking if I even have time for my Thomas interest.
Probably something I should've considered myself, I forget sometimes that finals are still on outside of Australia for a lot of students. That is a fantastic point, Metal :)

And on other note, I personally think it's best to wait for Bachmann's announcements next year, instead of making another 2016 thread, since the year's almost over anyway.
Well, true...but since there are 2 more months yet until the official announcements, I can understand the excitement some have, as well as the fun in predicting such announcements...also the fact that we are closer to the date, for some anyway, makes speculation even more interesting, as it can be fun to reason what releases may be just around the bend, even if Bachmann knows and we don't...Speculation can be a good thing.

~Alex


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on December 16, 2015, 07:44:08 AM
Perhaps another reason why alot of people aren't being very responsive isn't just because of Christmas, but also the time when most of us are trying to get through our final exams, and spend time studying. At times these days, I've often been thinking if I even have time for my Thomas interest.
Probably something I should've considered myself, I forget sometimes that finals are still on outside of Australia for a lot of students. That is a fantastic point, Metal :)

And on other note, I personally think it's best to wait for Bachmann's announcements next year, instead of making another 2016 thread, since the year's almost over anyway.
Well, true...but since there are 2 more months yet until the official announcements, I can understand the excitement some have, as well as the fun in predicting such announcements...also the fact that we are closer to the date, for some anyway, makes speculation even more interesting, as it can be fun to reason what releases may be just around the bend, even if Bachmann knows and we don't...Speculation can be a good thing.

~Alex

How did you work it out that there are 2 months until the official announcements, Alex? We have less than 1 month until January 2016, so we haven't even got a moth until the official announcements, never mind 2 months!


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: AJW98Productions on December 16, 2015, 07:51:15 AM
How did you work it out that there are 2 months until the official announcements, Alex? We have less than 1 month until January 2016, so we haven't even got a moth until the official announcements, never mind 2 months!
I'm sure another member can correct me if I'm wrong, but I probably meant closer to 1 and a bit months, as from memory the official announcements generally occur around February, often at a Toy Fair, if I'm not mistaken...I seem to recall Skarloey not being announced at the start of the year but rather around February...of course I could be completely wrong...

~Alex


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on December 16, 2015, 07:54:15 AM
How did you work it out that there are 2 months until the official announcements, Alex? We have less than 1 month until January 2016, so we haven't even got a moth until the official announcements, never mind 2 months!
I'm sure another member can correct me if I'm wrong, but I probably meant closer to 1 and a bit months, as from memory the official announcements generally occur around February, often at a Toy Fair, if I'm not mistaken...I seem to recall Skarloey not being announced at the start of the year but rather around February...of course I could be completely wrong...

~Alex

Why do Bachmann announce the new releases in February for? Surely Christmas time of the year before or January would be better?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: ClrwtrMK2 on December 16, 2015, 11:21:04 AM
Okay... Here's my wishlist for 2016, Starting with HO/00.

Locomotives (Standard Gauge)

~Rosie

Yes, I still want Bachmann to make her.

~Harvey

Keep your "Harvey's too tall to be HO/00 because of his crane" comments to yourselves.

~Re-tooled Thomas & Percy

Since James will be re-tooled in 2017, Thomas will follow suit in 2018. Same can be said for Percy, But in 2019.

Rolling Stock (Standard Gauge)

~China Clay Wagon

The narrow gauge open wagon can be 3D Scanned, Scaled to HO/00 & 3D printed.

~Old Van

Same technique, But with the narrow gauge van.

Resin Buildings

-Welsworth Station
-Carriage Shed
-Ffarqhuar Station
-Lord Callan's Castle

Locomotives (Narrow Guage)

-Rheneas
-Sir Handel
-Peter Sam

I can't believe they pulled off with Skarloey, I'm impressed!

Rolling Stock (Narrow Gauge)
-Slate Wagon
-D-Fuse Tanker
-Narrow Gauge Brake Van
-Narrow Gauge Coach(Red)
-Narrow Gauge Coach(Blue)

As for Large Scale, I still want Gordon & Henry with the Express Coaches.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Titanic5972 on December 16, 2015, 02:04:07 PM
If be very keen to see Daisy added to the loco range.
 A re run of the red and the green express coaches would be good, maybe with the red ones featuring the earlier Red/White as oppose to the later Red/Cream.
A new troublesome truck would be good too. We haven't had an angry face truck. Maybe that would be a good addition. I can see Henrietta being given a face to match the series too.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Sparks on December 16, 2015, 03:17:48 PM
If Daisy does get made, I think she'd be the first engine where I'd be okay with her being entirely based on her CGI design.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: AJW98Productions on December 18, 2015, 05:03:14 AM
Okay... Here's my wishlist for 2016, Starting with HO/00.

Locomotives (Standard Gauge)

~Rosie

Yes, I still want Bachmann to make her.

~Harvey

Keep your "Harvey's too tall to be HO/00 because of his crane" comments to yourselves.
That comes across as more than a little presumptuous that you would assume that already...also isn't a good part of predicitons the criticisms? They allow us to all reason and see other member's points of view on certain topics...that kind of reponse cuts off potential constructive criticism and to me at least, how presumptuous it seems almost comes off as offensive to other members, we're all here to give our two cents after all, but I think we should all also be willing to accept and give constructive criticism, there is nothing wrong with that...personally I'd like to see models of Harvey and Rosie in HO/OO but I recognise that, to me anyway, they seem unlikely.

Isn't the point of the forums to share ideas and thoughts anyway? It sounds close to counter-intuitive to prevent the spread of ideas or thoughts with that kind of "keep your comments on *insert topic, character, etc here* to yourself" mentality. I can sympathise with feeling frustrated on topics and feeling like your ideas aren't being paid attention to, but I do think being able to receive and give constructive criticism without negative feelings is a good thing for any member of any forum to be able to do. But then again, those are just my thoughts on constructive criticism...but I respect your opinions listed for what you want to see, and agree with most of them actually, but I'm not sure how likely they all may be (no offense intended by this), and hey, to each their own, right? :)

Anywayyyyyyyyy, is anyone else a little suprised Bachmann didn't release a Brakevan in Narrow Gauge this year to accompany the freight stock? Or is it just me? I'd say that my most anticipated piece of Narrow Gauge stock (for the time being) is a Brakevan, from there since the Narrow Gauge Brakevans of the classic series were all the same but in different colours, it seems only logical that when the time came to release coaches into the range, the grey/brown Brakevan could easily be repainted to Blue or Red to accompany any potential Narrow Gauge Coaches...but again, that's just my thoughts...

~Alex


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on December 18, 2015, 06:08:43 AM
Honestly, I agree with Alex.  I have to admit that part of ClrwtrMK2's post comes off as a little paranoid, when really it's not worth getting that worked up over.  I don't think there is anything wrong with agreeing or disagreeing with someone's opinions, as long as it is done in a mature way.  The only time I think it goes too far is when people use poor logic when stating their reasons such as saying "Hornby made Stepney, so Bachmann shouldn't make him" or "Bachmann needs to make Rosie because she's a girl".  Sharing thoughts for future products has really what makes speculation for Bachmann fun at times, especially seeing as when new products are announced and said characters do appear, it's a great feeling knowing that Bachmann staff do pay attention to our posts and take most of our suggestions into consideration. 

Personally, I still don't see Rosie or Harvey happening anytime soon from Bachmann and I don't think either of them would be very good sellers.  I think Harvey has the right amount of appearances as well as appearing regularly in CGI since his return in season 17, but his design would be too expensive and even a little complicated for Bachmann to put together.  Rosie on the other hand was clearly made as a marketing tool for selling trains to girls, and never really came off as an actual character to me.  Even by the standards of female characters, she is easily one of the weaker ones, especially compared to ones like Emily, Mavis, Caitlin, or Daisy.  Even in Arc's episodes, Rosie never speaks and has become a background character, and whenever she did speak back in Nitrogen's episodes it was in one episode per season with her roles being very minimal in them. 


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: ClrwtrMK2 on December 18, 2015, 09:56:54 AM
Bachmann should make Rosie period! If they won't... I will with 3D Printing Technology.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Metal on December 18, 2015, 06:07:02 PM
Let's drop this here before things get hostile. There's nothing wrong with anticipations. But it's best to be civil.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on December 18, 2015, 06:42:01 PM
Let's drop this here before things get hostile. There's nothing wrong with anticipations. But it's best to be civil.

I quite like the idea of several people sharing ideas on a Forum of the following years releases. I cannot see how things could get hostile though.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: AJW98Productions on December 18, 2015, 10:00:35 PM
Let's drop this here before things get hostile. There's nothing wrong with anticipations. But it's best to be civil.
Agreed, anyway...this may sound like an odd question so I hope it makes sense, but what range is everyone looking forward to most next year? Like for example, if you (like me) are looking forward to Narrow Gauge the most, then you would say Narrow Gauge is the range you are most looking forward to...and what stock do you consider likely to occur in that range, and please bare in mind Bachmann is not learning curve, so they won't release 7 new toolings for one range next year...so if you do want to list them, please try to be realistic. This is an odd question but I thought it might stir up some interesting conversation, and since it's still about predictions for next year, it doesn't seem out of place here :)

~Alex


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on December 18, 2015, 10:33:14 PM
I think the range I'm looking forward to seeing the most next year is the narrow gauge line, with HO coming at a close second, unless Daisy or Stepney appear in next year's announcements.  I'd be happy with some coaches in the narrow gauge range and I think a brake van would be nice too but I could see Bachmann putting that off for another year or so since the range only just started. 


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Sparks on December 24, 2015, 06:54:34 PM
https://www.facebook.com/festrailinsider/posts/1541392949512002

While it may not be the Thomas range, but PECO has announced that they will be making Talyllyn versions of their GVT 4 wheel coaches that we've known about. Makes you wonder if they're going to use this same tooling for the Thomas range. I'd rather accurate Talyllyn style coaches, to be honest, but this wouldn't be terrible either.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on December 24, 2015, 07:10:15 PM
https://www.facebook.com/festrailinsider/posts/1541392949512002

While it may not be the Thomas range, but PECO has announced that they will be making Talyllyn versions of their GVT 4 wheel coaches that we've known about. Makes you wonder if they're going to use this same tooling for the Thomas range. I'd rather accurate Talyllyn style coaches, to be honest, but this wouldn't be terrible either.

I hope Bachmann can get this new tooling from PECO, for the Thomas & Friends Narrow Gauge range, because I would love some Thomas & Friends Narrow Gauge Coaches.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Griffin on December 25, 2015, 02:25:15 PM
I think the range I'm looking forward to seeing the most next year is the narrow gauge line, with HO coming at a close second, unless Daisy or Stepney appear in next year's announcements.  I'd be happy with some coaches in the narrow gauge range and I think a brake van would be nice too but I could see Bachmann putting that off for another year or so since the range only just started. 

The most optimal candidate for the narrow gauge range next is obviously Rheneas, seeing as he is number 2 and he also has had a fair bit of CGI screen time in both Nitrogen and Arc's time. The Christmas Tree Express, Luke's New Friend, and The Switch all come to mind.

However, it would be totally possible, with all the success Skarloey has brought the range, that Bachmann will decide to release two or even three new narrow gauge models and singly do a repair for the other two ranges. Personally I don't need Bachmann to be realeasing any new HO stuff-- I'm still trying to rebuild my collection!!

Peter Sam and Rusty would be great to see in the narrow gauge range, perhaps alongside Rheneas and a Skarloey set. Rolling stock is another issue seeing as (from what I understand) Bachmann is rebranding And recoloring Peco wagons (and maybe coaches?) so they don't really have to start from scratch on threat front. Perhaps a "Blue Montain Quarry Slate Run" set, seeing a as Skarkoey's description in the Bachmann catalog details his job as "transporting blue mountain slate from the mountain to Crovan's Gate" or something like that. It could give Bachmann a chance to utilize both the current open wagon and maybe a new slate wagon, as well as using their existing vans. The MSRP would be quite high I imagine, however...

I am really looking forward to news about Oliver and Toad. Ah, I remember when they were first announced-- I was so thrilled!!


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on December 25, 2015, 03:00:26 PM
I think the range I'm looking forward to seeing the most next year is the narrow gauge line, with HO coming at a close second, unless Daisy or Stepney appear in next year's announcements.  I'd be happy with some coaches in the narrow gauge range and I think a brake van would be nice too but I could see Bachmann putting that off for another year or so since the range only just started. 

The most optimal candidate for the narrow gauge range next is obviously Rheneas, seeing as he is number 2 and he also has had a fair bit of CGI screen time in both Nitrogen and Arc's time. The Christmas Tree Express, Luke's New Friend, and The Switch all come to mind.

However, it would be totally possible, with all the success Skarloey has brought the range, that Bachmann will decide to release two or even three new narrow gauge models and singly do a repair for the other two ranges. Personally I don't need Bachmann to be realeasing any new HO stuff-- I'm still trying to rebuild my collection!!

Peter Sam and Rusty would be great to see in the narrow gauge range, perhaps alongside Rheneas and a Skarloey set. Rolling stock is another issue seeing as (from what I understand) Bachmann is rebranding And recoloring Peco wagons (and maybe coaches?) so they don't really have to start from scratch on threat front. Perhaps a "Blue Montain Quarry Slate Run" set, seeing a as Skarkoey's description in the Bachmann catalog details his job as "transporting blue mountain slate from the mountain to Crovan's Gate" or something like that. It could give Bachmann a chance to utilize both the current open wagon and maybe a new slate wagon, as well as using their existing vans. The MSRP would be quite high I imagine, however...

I am really looking forward to news about Oliver and Toad. Ah, I remember when they were first announced-- I was so thrilled!!

I agree, with you RyanGNR. For the past few years we have used a number of different HO Gauge releases, so it will be nice if Bachmann could release two or three Narrow Gauge Locomotives with some Coaches and Wagon's. I hope Rheneas and Handel get released in 2016.

In the next couple of years, I want Rheneas, Sir Handel, Peter Sam, Rusty and Duncan to be released fairly quickly, then it will get the Narrow Gauge collection popularity going quickly. Besides, very soon, I will be building another layout with PECO OO-9 Gauge Track, but of course, I will only have to start off with Skarloey, an Open Wagon, Box Van - Blue and Box Van - Red. That's not a big collection, and until Bachmann release more products in the Narrow Gauge range, it will be small. The Bachmann Thomas & Friends Narrow Gauge needs a big booster.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on December 25, 2015, 03:00:55 PM
I think the range I'm looking forward to seeing the most next year is the narrow gauge line, with HO coming at a close second, unless Daisy or Stepney appear in next year's announcements.  I'd be happy with some coaches in the narrow gauge range and I think a brake van would be nice too but I could see Bachmann putting that off for another year or so since the range only just started. 

The most optimal candidate for the narrow gauge range next is obviously Rheneas, seeing as he is number 2 and he also has had a fair bit of CGI screen time in both Nitrogen and Arc's time. The Christmas Tree Express, Luke's New Friend, and The Switch all come to mind.

However, it would be totally possible, with all the success Skarloey has brought the range, that Bachmann will decide to release two or even three new narrow gauge models and singly do a repair for the other two ranges. Personally I don't need Bachmann to be realeasing any new HO stuff-- I'm still trying to rebuild my collection!!

Peter Sam and Rusty would be great to see in the narrow gauge range, perhaps alongside Rheneas and a Skarloey set. Rolling stock is another issue seeing as (from what I understand) Bachmann is rebranding And recoloring Peco wagons (and maybe coaches?) so they don't really have to start from scratch on threat front. Perhaps a "Blue Montain Quarry Slate Run" set, seeing a as Skarkoey's description in the Bachmann catalog details his job as "transporting blue mountain slate from the mountain to Crovan's Gate" or something like that. It could give Bachmann a chance to utilize both the current open wagon and maybe a new slate wagon, as well as using their existing vans. The MSRP would be quite high I imagine, however...

I am really looking forward to news about Oliver and Toad. Ah, I remember when they were first announced-- I was so thrilled!!


I agree, with you RyanGNR. For the past few years we have used a number of different HO Gauge releases, so it will be nice if Bachmann could release two or three Narrow Gauge Locomotives with some Coaches and Wagon's. I hope Rheneas and Handel get released in 2016.

In the next couple of years, I want Rheneas, Sir Handel, Peter Sam, Rusty and Duncan to be released fairly quickly, then it will get the Narrow Gauge collection popularity going quickly. Besides, very soon, I will be building another layout with PECO OO-9 Gauge Track, but of course, I will only have to start off with Skarloey, an Open Wagon, Box Van - Blue and Box Van - Red. That's not a big collection, and until Bachmann release more products in the Narrow Gauge range, it will be small. The Bachmann Thomas & Friends Narrow Gauge needs a big booster.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Griffin on December 25, 2015, 09:06:49 PM
Oh yes of course! Whistle and Chuff Percy-- I completely forgot about him!! Yeah, I think the chances of Him being made are quite high...


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on December 25, 2015, 11:37:20 PM
Honestly I'm a little surprised that they didn't announce a speed-activated sound Percy last year, or the year before after the Thomas model.  I'd be curious to see if they would follow-up on this in the near future since Percy seems like the likely, if not inevitable addition to follow Thomas with sound.  

Den and Dart would be a little strange coming from Bachmann since they are nowhere near as popular or iconic as Victor or Kevin, but even then I wouldn't consider Victor to have much of a high chance since the Skarloey range had just started.  I could definitely see Victor happening before Luke and Millie, but not before the rest of the original six narrow gauge engines.  But going back to Den and Dart, I feel like they might not be as likely since their usage in CGI is somewhat minimal compared to these two but I certainly wouldn't mind them.

Scruff would probably have a similar issue too since Whiff hasn't even been made or announced either.  That being said, he has had more roles to himself since season 17 so he at least has that going for him.  


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on December 26, 2015, 12:42:22 AM
I love Stepney he is easily one of my favorite characters.  He is definitely one I would like to see next year, despite not being in CGI yet.  He has plenty of association with some of the recently added characters from Bachmann, so I feel Stepney would be a natural fit.  He is also one of the last three classic characters from the first four seasons left so already I feel he has some popularity going for him.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: AJW98Productions on December 26, 2015, 04:33:05 AM
ChaoticCreeper55, if you think they have all the engines you really need in HO, then you don't necessarily have to predict the next engine to join the range, just stick to the other ranges if it fits you better, or alternatively just what you think Bachmann has the greatest chance of releasing next, as this topic did start out as a predictions thread, as opposed to a wishlist thread. For example I have no clue what Bachmann could release next year, so I just guessed that for now, Paxton seems most likely (to me anyway), but that would be if we get an engine at all next year. Oh, and also just a friendly heads-up, there's a "modify" button at the top of every post you make, so you don't have to go back and post multiple times in a row in the same topic, it just creates less clutter and only adds to one post instead of 2+ new ones. I mean, no harm no foul, this is just a friendly heads-up :)

Yeah... if they made the whole series whistle and chuff people would only need to put a DCC chip without sound if they wanted to oporate there engines in different ways.  
Unfortunately, the voltage is a problem that somewhat prohibits this from functioning ideally. Bachmann's Whistle and Chuff Thomas as well all know is DC, so the sound chip is made to detect the voltage the motor is receiving and respond accordingly, for instance, higher speeds create higher voltage, meaning the sound chip responds accordingly. Unfortunately DCC runs at a higher voltage already, I think I saw a video a while ago of a man who does DCC conversions explaining that, because of this, Bachmann's Whistle and Chuff Thomas, when fitted with DCC, sounds like its going at its top speed, even if its only moving seemingly at a crawling speed. So it is a bit of an issue, the best alternative is to just get a DCC chip with sound to fit to Thomas, but that's probably a topic someone else could do a far better job of explaining than I could.

Anyway, shifting this long post of mine back to the topic at hand, predictions. I honestly don't see Bachmann making any more than 2 engines in next year's Narrow Gauge line up, sorry for seeming so cynical to anyone who is hoping for around 3, but allow me to first elaborate on why I think that won't happen.
It seems to me at least, that this year's range was a big success, but I think it's worth keeping in mind that the most engines ever released into the range at once was 3 in a year, and that was in 2002, when the HO range was first getting on its feet, Bachmann wanted to be able to quickly release 3 engines to keep options open early and keep themselves in the game by establishing themselves quickly.
Large Scale was a gamble to them, but slightly less of one, as their HO Thomas line was already established and profititable, and it kind of shows, as in HO, 3 engines (Thomas, Percy and James) were released in its debut year, as opposed to Large Scale, where in its debut year only 2 engines (Thomas and Percy) were released, and James was released in the range's second year.
And on the subject of HO, since 2002 it seems when we've had more than 1 engine released in a year since, it's because they share similar features, for example, Gordon and Henry were released together in the range's second year, but their toolings share a lot of similar features, meaning that it was easier to release them together than it would be with a lot of other engines.
For example, the chassis blocks for Gordon and Henry are identical, or at least appeared that way upon close inspection of my models, Henry's even has room for the screw that holds in Gordon's rear trailing wheels, a feature which would be impractical unless the chassis block is the same between the two, even their driving wheels and front bogies are the same, that's I think why they came out in the same year, and (correct me if I'm wrong) but since then, any engines that came out in pairs of two were always twins, eg. Donald and Douglas, Bill and Ben, 'Arry and Bert.
So next year I seriously doubt we'll see upwards of 2 Narrow Gauge Engines, I think we may only see Rheneas, as he seems the most likely candidate. Personally I can see Bachmann releasing the Narrow Gauge engines in numerical order (except possibly with Peter Sam and Sir Handel, I think Peter Sam could be released before Sir Handel), if they are released at a rate of 1 a year, that is. If we are to get 2 engines next year, I think we'll see Rheneas and Rusty. Rheneas has high demand amongst the fans, and given the backstory of Rheneas and Skarloey, it seems almost counter-intuitive not to follow up Skarloey with Rheneas, it also makes sense numerically, as Rheneas in #2 on the Narrow Gauge railway, and Sarloey is #1.
So, I hear a few people already asking (or at least, I'm assuming I'd be asked), why would Rusty follow up in the second year, as he is #5 on the Narrow Gauge railway, well a few reasons: His design is not as complex as the other engines, being a diesel and all, his design is rather box like and quite simple compared to the likes of Peter Sam and Sir Handel, also the fact that it seems to be (from what I've heard anyway) that Skarloey, Rheneas and Rusty seem to have gotten the most attention recently, almost appearing as the "Main Three" of the Narrow Gauge line (much like how Thomas, Percy and James spent a few years as the "Main Three" of the standard gauge engines).
Also I thought this might happen because it seems to me that Peter Sam and Sir Handel, for the most part have similar wheelbases, and also given their backstories and appearances in the classic seasons, they seemed to be, for a while at least, good contrasts to each other (given Peter Sam seems to be the positive contrast of the two, that is why I think he'd have a fair chance of being released before Sir Handel, just to tie into what I was saying earlier about Peter Sam being potentionally released before Sir Handel).
In the classic seasons, Sir Handel was grumpy and disliked Trucks and was often rude, Peter Sam was almost his polar opposite, I could almost see these 2 being released together as well, but I think Bachmann are more likely to stick to the safest route next year of just Rheneas, that's just my predictions anyway. If I (objectively) got some information in here wrong, feel free to correct me, if you think that (subjectively) my opinion/s are wrong, feel free to reply of you want, that's a part of the beauty of predictions after all, calmly debating with logic and reason (I must ask anyone who does intend on responding to this to not quote this post, as its length would unnecessarily clog up the thread).

Anyway, as ever I look forward to hearing the opinions of other members, and constructive criticism is always welcome. I look forward to any responses or thoughts on any of next year's potential releases, predicitons are after all, one of the most interesting parts to the lead up to the announcements in the following year :)

~Alex :)


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on December 26, 2015, 06:04:59 AM
I also think Bachmann Murdoch would be pretty cool

That is a good Locomtive for Bachmnn to bring out, but it wouldn't be as good as the Hornby Murdoch. The Hronby Murdoch has already set a good standard going, when it was released back in 2011. Bachamnn would not be able to produce a Murdoch better or just as good as the Hornby one. The Hornby Murdoch, has sprung buffers, seperate handrails, a ladder on the rear of his tender, just like a real life Class 9F has. The detail that Hornby Murodch has would not be beaten by Bachmann because they so not fit sprung buffers, separate handrails to their Locomotives. I admit that there probably is a bit too much extra detail fitted to Hornby Murdoch, but I feel it is better than having one without it, with moulded handrails like Bachmann would do.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: AJW98Productions on December 26, 2015, 06:22:13 AM
I also think Bachmann Murdoch would be pretty cool

That is a good Locomtive for Bachmnn to bring out, but it wouldn't be as good as the Hornby Murdoch. The Hronby Murdoch has already set a good standard going, when it was released back in 2011. Bachamnn would not be able to produce a Murdoch better or just as good as the Hornby one. The Hornby Murdoch, has sprung buffers, seperate handrails, a ladder on the rear of his tender, just like a real life Class 9F has. The detail that Hornby Murodch has would not be beaten by Bachmann because they so not fit sprung buffers, separate handrails to their Locomotives. I admit that there probably is a bit too much extra detail fitted to Hornby Murdoch, but I feel it is better than having one without it, with moulded handrails like Bachmann would do.
Remember that detail isn't everything, it also comes down to the quality of the model's running, and many other factors. I don't see Bachmann avoiding releasing Murdoch just because Hornby already have their own variation available, as it is much harder to acquire a Hornby Murdoch in the USA anyway, where Bachmann has the license to produce Thomas in HO, and the same country where Hornby does not have the license to produce Thomas in OO, just like Bachmann odes not have the license to produce their HO range in the UK. This means that Hornby models can be much more difficult for Bachmann's US customers, and does give Bachmann excellent market advantage if they were to do so.

But with that said, I'm not going to lie, I don't think Bachmann will be making Murdoch in the near future, as he only appeared in 7 episodes, and only spoke in 3 of them. Trucks like S.C.Ruffy are a little different, as for Bachmann that was a quick new face moulding and repaint, plus S.C.Ruffy is a little more iconic than Murdoch anyway, Murdoch would be a large gamble on a relatively large new tooling that would be expensive to produce, and given his last appearance was in Season 12, and he does not seem to be in high demand among many fans, I do not see Bachmann producing Murdoch in the near future, even though I do like his basis...
(And if you don't believe me about his amount of appearances, I double checked the TTEWikia to make sure that was correct: http://ttte.wikia.com/wiki/Murdoch )

~Alex


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on December 26, 2015, 06:56:13 AM
I also think Bachmann Murdoch would be pretty cool

That is a good Locomtive for Bachmnn to bring out, but it wouldn't be as good as the Hornby Murdoch. The Hronby Murdoch has already set a good standard going, when it was released back in 2011. Bachamnn would not be able to produce a Murdoch better or just as good as the Hornby one. The Hornby Murdoch, has sprung buffers, seperate handrails, a ladder on the rear of his tender, just like a real life Class 9F has. The detail that Hornby Murodch has would not be beaten by Bachmann because they so not fit sprung buffers, separate handrails to their Locomotives. I admit that there probably is a bit too much extra detail fitted to Hornby Murdoch, but I feel it is better than having one without it, with moulded handrails like Bachmann would do.
Remember that detail isn't everything, it also comes down to the quality of the model's running, and many other factors. I don't see Bachmann avoiding releasing Murdoch just because Hornby already have their own variation available, as it is much harder to acquire a Hornby Murdoch in the USA anyway, where Bachmann has the license to produce Thomas in HO, and the same country where Hornby does not have the license to produce Thomas in OO, just like Bachmann odes not have the license to produce their HO range in the UK. This means that Hornby models can be much more difficult for Bachmann's US customers, and does give Bachmann excellent market advantage if they were to do so.

But with that said, I'm not going to lie, I don't think Bachmann will be making Murdoch in the near future, as he only appeared in 7 episodes, and only spoke in 3 of them. Trucks like S.C.Ruffy are a little different, as for Bachmann that was a quick new face moulding and repaint, plus S.C.Ruffy is a little more iconic than Murdoch anyway, Murdoch would be a large gamble on a relatively large new tooling that would be expensive to produce, and given his last appearance was in Season 12, and he does not seem to be in high demand among many fans, I do not see Bachmann producing Murdoch in the near future, even though I do like his basis...
(And if you don't believe me about his amount of appearances, I double checked the TTEWikia to make sure that was correct: http://ttte.wikia.com/wiki/Murdoch )

~Alex

I still want Bachmann to produce Murdoch, as it would expect their range, but Hornby Murdoch I know will be better with detail and he runs really well.

It's difficult for UK residents like myself to get hold of the Bachmann Thomas & Friends HO Gauge range, and it's now difficult for UK residents to get hold of Hornby Murdoch as he has been discontinued since early last year (2014), and the price if him is going for about £400.00 on eBay for a brand new one.

I do believe you Alex. I have seen all the Episodes where you see Murdoch and sadly he is a rare sighting. You seem in the background more than him being a speaking character, but he still rare to see in the background. I was surprised to see Hornby produce him as he not a well know character and has not appeared much, but I was really looking forward to getting him when Hornby announced their 2011 range on Christmas Day 2010.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on December 26, 2015, 01:28:24 PM
I still want Bachmann to produce Murdoch, as it would expect their range, but Hornby Murdoch I know will be better with detail and he runs really well.

Are we really going to have this discussion again? How could you possibly know that when Bachmann has never even announced or confirmed Murdoch to compare the model with?  No offense, but I am really tired of you giving Hornby so much credit when there is literally no evidence to support these claims you keep making.

That said I don't expect Murdoch to happen from Bachmann anytime soon anyway, since the tooling price would be pretty high and he hasn't even returned into full CGI yet, so already there is very little going for a Bachmann Murdoch at this time.  I would probably put someone like Arthur before Murdoch would get considered. 

There was that one point in time when they were kind of deciding between CGI and the models, but I think there was only like 1 episode he was in. Here is a picture:

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/scratchpad/images/4/42/SemiCGiStepney.png/revision/latest?cb=20130318113938

I like the old model engine more. Do you?

I definitely prefer the model version over CGI personally, but I do not think that his appearance in season 12 will make that much of a difference at this point for Bachmann's production since Bachmann announced Oliver a year after he returned in CGI with Toad, which is why everyone is confident in Daisy happening next since she returned this year in Lost Treasure.  Though personally with all of the other classic characters that have returned so far I feel like Stepney would be a natural fit in the show as a returning character in full CGI.  


Also Alex, I find it interesting that you mentioned Rusty being the third narrow gauge engine that you expect from Bachmann.  I could see Rusty happening in the future too but not right away since I imagine others like Rheneas and even Peter Sam could happen before him.  To me, Rusty is basically the "Toby" of the narrow gauge engines meaning that there isn't a lot of urgency to him but he has a simple design with a lot of conversion possibilities.  I know I would certainly love to have Rusty too! 


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: AJW98Productions on December 26, 2015, 01:43:07 PM
ChaoticCreeper55, if you think they have all the engines you really need in HO, then you don't necessarily have to predict the next engine to join the range

So you are saying I can't voice my opinion?
I'm saying quite the opposite actually, I'm saying that if you are having a hard time forming an opinion (which to me it sounded like you were), that you didn't have to state one if you didn't want to, as based on your earlier statement (found here):
For the ho scale I didn't know what to put cause I think they have probably all the engines that I really need.
You sounded like you said that merely because you thought that you had to, as you didn't know what to put, I was just saying that you don't have to give your opinion if you were having a hard time forming one. I was just trying to be nice is all, sorry for any confusion, but I was genuinely trying to be nice :) I would never forbid someone from stating an opinion, that's what makes this fun after all, I just thought you shouldn't have to give one if you seemed like you almost didn't entirely want to give an opinion, which in this case it came across to me like you didn't entirely want to give an opinion on HO, and no one should feel like they have to give an opinion if they don't want to, which again, it seemed like you didn't. So I thought I'd try to be nice, sorry if I came across as rude at all, I was trying to be nice. Feel free to voice your opinions all you like, I was not in the slightest bit trying to prevent you from having an opinion.

Sorry for the confusion, but please know I did have good intentions and I did only mean that in a nice way. Best wishes,

~Alex :)


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Metal on December 26, 2015, 02:01:02 PM
I'd say that Stepney would help with color contrast and Daisy/Boco for Big Diesels. And that's pretty much all the classic characters.

Also with all this talk about Murdoch, I'm not gonna lie saying that Murdoch is probably Hornby's best model. But I think he really falls short, especially when compared something like Hiro, who would seem to have a much better chance than Murdoch, for being the next tender engine. He's highly popular to both older and younger fans. Plus he actually has depth, and has such an extraordinary design. But he falls in the same category as tooling costs, considering he's a tender engine.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: AJW98Productions on December 26, 2015, 02:36:33 PM
Also Alex, I find it interesting that you mentioned Rusty being the third narrow gauge engine that you expect from Bachmann.  I could see Rusty happening in the future too but not right away since I imagine others like Rheneas and even Peter Sam could happen before him.  To me, Rusty is basically the "Toby" of the narrow gauge engines meaning that there isn't a lot of urgency to him but he has a simple design with a lot of conversion possibilities.  I know I would certainly love to have Rusty too! 
That was under the possibility of Bachmann releasing 2 Narrow Gauge engines in the same year (which I do somewhat doubt myself), moreso, if only one gets released per year, I expect Rusty would be saved for much later down the track (the pun was not intended), I could see him happening as a third engine, but I expect Peter Sam and Sir Handel have higher chances of coming out first, I just thought I'd bring up a point I don't recall having seen anyone else brought up. But I did an absolutely terrible job of bringing that up, Rusty was moreso brought up as a possibility, as I think it could happen, and I thought should be mentioned as he is one of the few engines I haven't seen brought up for being the third Narrow Gauge engine from Bachmann. I'd be lying if I didn't say that I think Rusty has greater chances for being the third Narrow Gauge engine than I believe he's credited for, but that's just my opinion, and I don't speak for everyone :) so to each their own opinion I guess :)

Also thanks for bringing up Rusty's kitbashing potential, that was a point I completely forogt to bring up in my last post. But the simple design is something that I believe would make for an easy to produce model, which would definitely be appealing to the company selling as well as the buyers ready to kitbash or just use regularly, depending on sufficient demand of course.

I'm curious though, as most people seem to think Rheneas will be the second engine in the range, who do people think will be the third and why?

~Alex


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on December 26, 2015, 02:38:04 PM
I still want Bachmann to produce Murdoch, as it would expect their range, but Hornby Murdoch I know will be better with detail and he runs really well.

Are we really going to have this discussion again? How could you possibly know that when Bachmann has never even announced or confirmed Murdoch to compare the model with?  No offense, but I am really tired of you giving Hornby so much credit when there is literally no evidence to support these claims you keep making.

That said I don't expect Murdoch to happen from Bachmann anytime soon anyway, since the tooling price would be pretty high and he hasn't even returned into full CGI yet, so already there is very little going for a Bachmann Murdoch at this time.  I would probably put someone like Arthur before Murdoch would get considered. 

There was that one point in time when they were kind of deciding between CGI and the models, but I think there was only like 1 episode he was in. Here is a picture:

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/scratchpad/images/4/42/SemiCGiStepney.png/revision/latest?cb=20130318113938

I like the old model engine more. Do you?

I definitely prefer the model version over CGI personally, but I do not think that his appearance in season 12 will make that much of a difference at this point for Bachmann's production since Bachmann announced Oliver a year after he returned in CGI with Toad, which is why everyone is confident in Daisy happening next since she returned this year in Lost Treasure.  Though personally with all of the other classic characters that have returned so far I feel like Stepney would be a natural fit in the show as a returning character in full CGI.   


Also Alex, I find it interesting that you mentioned Rusty being the third narrow gauge engine that you expect from Bachmann.  I could see Rusty happening in the future too but not right away since I imagine others like Rheneas and even Peter Sam could happen before him.  To me, Rusty is basically the "Toby" of the narrow gauge engines meaning that there isn't a lot of urgency to him but he has a simple design with a lot of conversion possibilities.  I know I would certainly love to have Rusty too! 


Chaz, I am not crediting just Hornby. Bachmann have produced some good stuff too. I am impressed with the new Skarleoy Locomotive that has recently been released. The fact is that, since young and all my life I have the Hornby Thomas & Friends range close to my heart while I have grown up. I like and enjoy the Bachmann range, but I haven't grown up with it as long as I have with the Hornby range, so that is the Hornby range is closer to my heart, if you like.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on December 26, 2015, 02:51:01 PM
I'd say that Stepney would help with color contrast and Daisy/Boco for Big Diesels. And that's pretty much all the classic characters.

Also with all this talk about Murdoch, I'm not gonna lie saying that Murdoch is probably Hornby's best model. But I think he really falls short, especially when compared something like Hiro, who would seem to have a much better chance than Murdoch, for being the next tender engine. He's highly popular to both older and younger fans. Plus he actually has depth, and has such an extraordinary design. But he falls in the same category as tooling costs, considering he's a tender engine.

I agree, with you actually, Metal. Hornby Spencer and Murdoch are the two best Thomas & Friends Locomotives that Hornby have ever produced.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on December 26, 2015, 03:51:54 PM
I think at this point it's best to drop the subject of Murdoch and the Hornby model since it's clear that Murdoch doesn't have a lot going for a Bachmann model anyway.  It's like what Metal posted earlier too, a character like Hiro would make more sense than Murdoch since he's more iconic and would probably have better sales due to his strong following.  If not Hiro, then one of the last three classic characters that he mentioned earlier or someone like Paxton would make more sense than Murdoch or even Hiro anyway.  

I'm curious though, as most people seem to think Rheneas will be the second engine in the range, who do people think will be the third and why?

For the third narrow gauge engine, I could see it either being Sir Handel or Peter Sam.  While Sir Handel would make sense because of the numerical order, I feel Peter Sam would make even more sense than Sir Handel because he has had more appearances and speaking roles in CGI and has also had his own episode to himself in CGI which was Don't Bother Victor.  Either of these would be great, but even on a personal preference Peter Sam is my favorite narrow gauge engine so I would be happy seeing him come out in the future.  


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chloe Amy on December 26, 2015, 04:01:01 PM
Hey Jacob sorry I keep trying 2 reply 2 your messages but for some reason you're not getting them?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: ChaoticCreeper55 on December 26, 2015, 04:29:14 PM
ChaoticCreeper55, if you think they have all the engines you really need in HO, then you don't necessarily have to predict the next engine to join the range

So you are saying I can't voice my opinion?
I'm saying quite the opposite actually, I'm saying that if you are having a hard time forming an opinion (which to me it sounded like you were), that you didn't have to state one if you didn't want to, as based on your earlier statement (found here):
For the ho scale I didn't know what to put cause I think they have probably all the engines that I really need.
You sounded like you said that merely because you thought that you had to, as you didn't know what to put, I was just saying that you don't have to give your opinion if you were having a hard time forming one. I was just trying to be nice is all, sorry for any confusion, but I was genuinely trying to be nice :) I would never forbid someone from stating an opinion, that's what makes this fun after all, I just thought you shouldn't have to give one if you seemed like you almost didn't entirely want to give an opinion, which in this case it came across to me like you didn't entirely want to give an opinion on HO, and no one should feel like they have to give an opinion if they don't want to, which again, it seemed like you didn't. So I thought I'd try to be nice, sorry if I came across as rude at all, I was trying to be nice. Feel free to voice your opinions all you like, I was not in the slightest bit trying to prevent you from having an opinion.

Sorry for the confusion, but please know I did have good intentions and I did only mean that in a nice way. Best wishes,

~Alex :)

Oh ok I see what your saying. Sorry for the confusion.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on December 26, 2015, 04:39:48 PM
Hey Jacob sorry I keep trying 2 reply 2 your messages but for some reason you're not getting them?

Oh. Why is that then? I haven't had a message from you. Maybe there could be something wrong with your account. Maybe you should delete this one and create another one.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Titanic5972 on December 26, 2015, 05:02:36 PM

Oh. Why is that then? I haven't had a message from you. Maybe there could be something wrong with your account. Maybe you should delete this one and create another one.

Or maybe you have the settings wrong on your account which prohibits messages from other members. Check your settings before telling others to delete their account


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on December 26, 2015, 05:10:52 PM

Oh. Why is that then? I haven't had a message from you. Maybe there could be something wrong with your account. Maybe you should delete this one and create another one.

Or maybe you have the settings wrong on your account which prohibits messages from other members. Check your settings before telling others to delete their account

I receive Personal Messages from other Members fine, as since I have set up my account. I have received 307 Messages in total. I send many Messages to AJW98Productions daily and he replies back. I have had a Message from RyanGNR and I also get one or two Messages now and again from UPTODAY as well. I have not found people having trouble with somebody sending me a Personal Message before, but only with Chloe Amy.

The reason why I said that to Chloe Amy, because I receive messages alright from other Members, so I am guessing their must be something wrong with Chloe Amy's account.

UPDATE: I have just checked my Personal Message Options, and there is nobody in my 'Ignorelist' so it does look like I have a problem with my account.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chloe Amy on December 26, 2015, 06:10:09 PM
to jacob:

"You have exceeded the limit of 5 personal messages per hour." apparently?

wow this place is so strict it's lame!


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on December 26, 2015, 06:12:35 PM
to jacob:

"You have exceeded the limit of 5 personal messages per hour." apparently?

wow this place is so strict it's lame!

Yes, I know it is Chloe. I was waiting for the limit thing to come into this. I agree that limit is daft. If you wait until around 10:30pm (UK time), it should allow you to reply to me.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chloe Amy on December 26, 2015, 06:15:41 PM
oki i'll try then :)


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: AJW98Productions on December 26, 2015, 11:18:08 PM
I suggest perhaps we shift the topic towards predictions for what Bachmann could make next year. I recall much earlier this year, I believe it was, if members thought the Skarloey Railway coaches (if Bachmann were to release them,) would have faces or be faceless. It has dawned on me that I asked a very silly question, as I just found out the last time we saw Narrow Gauge coaches with faces was in Season 4, and they haven't had faces since.

For the third narrow gauge engine, I could see it either being Sir Handel or Peter Sam.  While Sir Handel would make sense because of the numerical order, I feel Peter Sam would make even more sense than Sir Handel because he has had more appearances and speaking roles in CGI and has also had his own episode to himself in CGI which was Don't Bother Victor.  Either of these would be great, but even on a personal preference Peter Sam is my favorite narrow gauge engine so I would be happy seeing him come out in the future. 
To me, Sir Handel makes sense from a numerical perspective, as I see Rheneas being the second engine released, but I think Peter Sam may have better chances of coming out first, mainly because from what I can see from parts of the fanbase, he seems to be more popular than Sir Handel, and as Peter Sam is generally a more pleasant character than Sir Handel, and for a few other reasons here and there, I could see Bachmann releasing Peter Sam third, and Sir Handel fourth.

That could be personal bias of mine though, Peter Sam is one of my favourite Narrow Gauge engines and was my favourite for quite a while when I was younger.

On a side note I'm hoping Duke will return at some point in the nearby future. Because the Narrow Gauge line isn't complete without him, and for me at least, it'd be nice to have a model of him at some point in the future.

~Alex


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on December 27, 2015, 05:08:21 AM
I suggest perhaps we shift the topic towards predictions for what Bachmann could make next year. I recall much earlier this year, I believe it was, if members thought the Skarloey Railway coaches (if Bachmann were to release them,) would have faces or be faceless. It has dawned on me that I asked a very silly question, as I just found out the last time we saw Narrow Gauge coaches with faces was in Season 4, and they haven't had faces since.

For the third narrow gauge engine, I could see it either being Sir Handel or Peter Sam.  While Sir Handel would make sense because of the numerical order, I feel Peter Sam would make even more sense than Sir Handel because he has had more appearances and speaking roles in CGI and has also had his own episode to himself in CGI which was Don't Bother Victor.  Either of these would be great, but even on a personal preference Peter Sam is my favorite narrow gauge engine so I would be happy seeing him come out in the future.  
To me, Sir Handel makes sense from a numerical perspective, as I see Rheneas being the second engine released, but I think Peter Sam may have better chances of coming out first, mainly because from what I can see from parts of the fanbase, he seems to be more popular than Sir Handel, and as Peter Sam is generally a more pleasant character than Sir Handel, and for a few other reasons here and there, I could see Bachmann releasing Peter Sam third, and Sir Handel fourth.

That could be personal bias of mine though, Peter Sam is one of my favourite Narrow Gauge engines and was my favourite for quite a while when I was younger.

On a side note I'm hoping Duke will return at some point in the nearby future. Because the Narrow Gauge line isn't complete without him, and for me at least, it'd be nice to have a model of him at some point in the future.

~Alex

I can see Sir Handel being released before Peter Sam. I agree with Alex, about the numerical order makes more sense. I really do think Rheneas will be released next year (2016), although this year was probably a test to see how popular the Narrow Gauge range would be. I am hoping that next year we will get two Narrow Gauge Locomotives. I am hoping for Rheneas and Sir Handel.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Metal on December 27, 2015, 12:56:47 PM
Seeing how the show is going now, it really won't surprise me if Sir Handel is the last of the original 6. I could even see Duncan happening before him, considering the many roles he's gotten since his return. It's also a personal preference considering that Duncan is my favorite NG Engine.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on December 27, 2015, 12:58:40 PM
Seeing how the show is going now, it really won't surprise me if Sir Handel is the last of the original 6. I could even see Duncan happening before him, considering the many roles he's gotten since his return. It's also a personal preference considering that Duncan is my favorite NG Engine.

How can you see Sir Handel being the last to get released of the first 6 Narrow Gauge Engines? I hoping that the first 6 Engines get released by Bachmann in a numerical order.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Parva Productions on December 27, 2015, 01:12:06 PM
Bachmann realistically are only going to produce items if they think they're going to sell. Numerical order won't guarantee sales - popularity of the characters will. Sir Handel has barely appeared in the show in recent years, whereas the likes of Peter Sam, Duncan and Rusty have been far more frequent.

If I were a betting man I would place money on Rheneas being the next narrow gauge engine introduced, followed by Rusty and then Peter Sam. I can't see Sir Handel being produced for some time.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on December 27, 2015, 01:20:04 PM
Bachmann realistically are only going to produce items if they think they're going to sell. Numerical order won't guarantee sales - popularity of the characters will. Sir Handel has barely appeared in the show in recent years, whereas the likes of Peter Sam, Duncan and Rusty have been far more frequent.

If I were a betting man I would place money on Rheneas being the next narrow gauge engine introduced, followed by Rusty and then Peter Sam. I can't see Sir Handel being produced for some time.

Personally, I prefer them to be released in numerical order, than popularity of the Locomotive. I am pretty sure Rheneas will be released next, then Sir Handel, second Peter Sam, third Rusty and fourth Duncan.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: AJW98Productions on December 27, 2015, 01:52:00 PM
Bachmann realistically are only going to produce items if they think they're going to sell. Numerical order won't guarantee sales - popularity of the characters will. Sir Handel has barely appeared in the show in recent years, whereas the likes of Peter Sam, Duncan and Rusty have been far more frequent.

If I were a betting man I would place money on Rheneas being the next narrow gauge engine introduced, followed by Rusty and then Peter Sam. I can't see Sir Handel being produced for some time.

Personally, I prefer them to be released in numerical order, than popularity of the Locomotive. I am pretty sure Rheneas will be released next, then Sir Handel, second Peter Sam, third Rusty and fourth Duncan.
I think Parva Productions has a point though, Bachmann cares not for the numerical preferences of a few, when there is higher demand for engines like Peter Sam to be released first, they wish to appeal to the largest possible demographic, whilst still keeping their options realistic.

I think Peter Sam or Rusty are more likely. The simplicity of Rusty's design and kitbashing potential would make for an appealing model, but Peter Sam seems to have the greatest demand for the third engine, but I suppose things could change between now and 2017, when I'm assuming the third Narrow Gauge engine would be released. I suspect for 2016 we'll see Rheneas as the next engine in the range.

I'm curious as to what people might think might be released in terms of rolling stock for Narrow Gauge next year, personally I'm hoping for the Brown Brakevan from the classic series, and the Blue and White Coaches from the classic series, along with their matching Blue Brakevan from the classic series.
(Please do not quote this post in its entirety if you are to reply to this...it would severely begin to clog up the page)

Anyway, best wishes,
~Alex :)


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: JJ96 on December 27, 2015, 02:05:52 PM
Well I haven't been on since October, so boy have I missed a lot. Let me just say Happy Holidays everyone! Now Jacob, I want to bring up a point. Releasing them in numerical order isn't good business, in some cases, yeah, but here's an example, the first Bachmann engines released in HO and Large scale were Thomas, Percy, and James. Are you saying the first three released should have been Thomas, Edward, and Henry? You have to release the popular items that will sell well first, then build on the brand. With that being said I think the next Narrow gauge will either be Rheneas or Peter Sam. Like it was mentioned before Sir Handel hasn't been a regular in a long time. With all this being said my predictions for 2016.
HO:
Oliver and Road (this isn't really a prediction, but point being they are gonna be released). I doubt any other engines will be released, I'd also love a Stepney, but he also hasn't been used in quite some time (which I would love to see him back one day). Maybe a new piece of rolling stock, but that's a bout it.
L:
Winston (again obviously)
NgHO:
Rheneas or Peter Sam
Coaches (Red or White&Blue)

These are just predictions, but I think they are realistic.
-John



Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on December 27, 2015, 02:53:01 PM
Well I haven't been on since October, so boy have I missed a lot. Let me just say Happy Holidays everyone! Now Jacob, I want to bring up a point. Releasing them in numerical order isn't good business, in some cases, yeah, but here's an example, the first Bachmann engines released in HO and Large scale were Thomas, Percy, and James. Are you saying the first three released should have been Thomas, Edward, and Henry? You have to release the popular items that will sell well first, then build on the brand. With that being said I think the next Narrow gauge will either be Rheneas or Peter Sam. Like it was mentioned before Sir Handel hasn't been a regular in a long time. With all this being said my predictions for 2016.
HO:
Oliver and Road (this isn't really a prediction, but point being they are gonna be released). I doubt any other engines will be released, I'd also love a Stepney, but he also hasn't been used in quite some time (which I would love to see him back one day). Maybe a new piece of rolling stock, but that's a bout it.
L:

Winston (again obviously)
NgHO:
Rheneas or Peter Sam
Coaches (Red or White&Blue)

These are just predictions, but I think they are realistic.
-John

No John, I am not saying that the first three Locomotives released in 2002 should have been Thomas, Edward and Henry. Bachmann releasing Thomas, Percy and James where perfect choices. I am only saying that with the Narrow Gauge Locomotives. They should be released in a numerical order, because we all know that the Narrow Gauge Engines are small, so too me, in my mind, they should be released in numerical order, as they are all relatively the same size, so I just see it silly of Bachmann releasing them in a non numerical order. To me, as I have said, the Engines are roughly the same size, so they should cost about the same to produce, so where is the logic in releasing them not in a numerical order? Bachmann would then just be picking them randomly and that is silly. A numerical order is much better.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: JJ96 on December 27, 2015, 03:15:09 PM
No John, I am not saying that the first three Locomotives released in 2002 should have been Thomas, Edward and Henry. Bachmann releasing Thomas, Percy and James where perfect choices. I am only saying that with the Narrow Gauge Locomotives. They should be released in a numerical order, because we all know that the Narrow Gauge Engines are small, so too me, in my mind, they should be released in numerical order, as they are all relatively the same size, so I just see it silly of Bachmann releasing them in a non numerical order. To me, as I have said, the Engines are roughly the same size, so they should cost about the same to produce, so where is the logic in releasing them not in a numerical order? Bachmann would then just be picking them randomly and that is silly. A numerical order is much better.
It is the same concept though. Release the most popular, then build on the brand. Skarloey was without a doubt the most popular, I mean they refer to it as the Skarloey Railway. Now to continuing to build the brand the most realistic engines to release next are Rheneas, Peter Sam, or Rusty. They are the next most popular of the engines in that scale. It wouldn't be randomly picking, it would be a smart marketing decision.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on December 27, 2015, 03:20:41 PM
No John, I am not saying that the first three Locomotives released in 2002 should have been Thomas, Edward and Henry. Bachmann releasing Thomas, Percy and James where perfect choices. I am only saying that with the Narrow Gauge Locomotives. They should be released in a numerical order, because we all know that the Narrow Gauge Engines are small, so too me, in my mind, they should be released in numerical order, as they are all relatively the same size, so I just see it silly of Bachmann releasing them in a non numerical order. To me, as I have said, the Engines are roughly the same size, so they should cost about the same to produce, so where is the logic in releasing them not in a numerical order? Bachmann would then just be picking them randomly and that is silly. A numerical order is much better.
It is the same concept though. Release the most popular, then build on the brand. Skarloey was without a doubt the most popular, I mean they refer to it as the Skarloey Railway. Now to continuing to build the brand the most realistic engines to release next are Rheneas, Peter Sam, or Rusty. They are the next most popular of the engines in that scale. It wouldn't be randomly picking, it would be a smart marketing decision.

I really think that Bachmann will release Rheneas next year (2016), but I think Bachmann should release them in numerical order, not by the popularity. I am not terribly interested in the popularity of the character. I just think a numerical order will be best.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: JJ96 on December 27, 2015, 03:26:13 PM
And while you may not care about popularity, a business has to.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on December 27, 2015, 03:40:06 PM
And while you may not care about popularity, a business has to.

Maybe a business does, but I would prefer the Narrow Gauge Locomotives to arrive on my layout in numerical order.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on December 27, 2015, 03:42:17 PM
And while you may not care about popularity, a business has to.

You sir hit the nail with the hammer. That's what it comes down to in the end, popularity of a character. Things like the color, number, or even gender of the locomotive almost never has anything to do with production.  What usually comes to mind more than anything else is either the popularity of the character or sometimes how easy it might be to make a model of said character (i.e. Recolors or twins).

I like Sir Handel, and I would buy a model of him if he were to be announced in the future.   I wouldn't even mind if by any chance the annoucements go in numerical order.  But it would not surprise me if we saw Peter Sam, Rusty, or even Duncan before him and that is because these characters have been used more regularly throughout the show in CGI.  Rheneas would make the most sense to me not because of his number, but because of his popularity. He has appeared a lot since the NG came back in CGI and he is also one of the more popular narrow gauge engines.  Like I said in another thread, he's basically the "Percy" of the narrow gauge engines which is why others like myself would put him before any other character at this time since the range only just started this year.  


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on December 27, 2015, 03:52:14 PM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #74 By Chaz: I agree with you there Chaz, that Rheneas is the "Percy" of the Skarloey Railway. Skarloey is the "Thomas" of this railway. I would also buy Sir Handel from Bachmann when they release him. My least favourite is Peter Sam, but I would still buy him. I would buy all of them.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: JJ96 on December 27, 2015, 04:09:58 PM
And while you may not care about popularity, a business has to.

You sir hit the nail with the hammer. That's what it comes down to in the end, popularity of a character. Things like the color, number, or even gender of the locomotive almost never has anything to do with production.  What usually comes to mind more than anything else is either the popularity of the character or sometimes how easy it might be to make a model of said character (i.e. Recolors or twins).

I like Sir Handel, and I would buy a model of him if he were to be announced in the future.   I wouldn't even mind if by any chance the annoucements go in numerical order.  But it would not surprise me if we saw Peter Sam, Rusty, or even Duncan before him and that is because these characters have been used more regularly throughout the show in CGI.  Rheneas would make the most sense to me not because of his number, but because of his popularity. He has appeared a lot since the NG came back in CGI and he is also one of the more popular narrow gauge engines.  Like I said in another thread, he's basically the "Percy" of the narrow gauge engines which is why others like myself would put him before any other character at this time since the range only just started this year. 
I agree, if it went in numerical order, I wouldn't mind, because I like Sir Handel as well, but as you agreed with me, he just isn't the most in demand.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on December 27, 2015, 04:36:26 PM
I would rather see Sir Handel get released before Peter Sam, not because of the numerical order, but because I prefer Sir Handel to Peter Sam.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Sparks on December 27, 2015, 08:27:59 PM
If the speculation about the possibility of the Skarloey tooling being re-used for a Talyllyn model turn out to be true, then Rheneas/Dolgoch is pretty much a shoe-in to be next.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: JJ96 on December 27, 2015, 08:45:04 PM
If the speculation about the possibility of the Skarloey tooling being re-used for a Talyllyn model turn out to be true, then Rheneas/Dolgoch is pretty much a shoe-in to be next.
Why would he need be a shoe-in?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: ChaoticCreeper55 on December 28, 2015, 12:21:39 AM
Sparks do you have a YouTube channel?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on December 28, 2015, 05:50:53 AM
Sparks do you have a YouTube channel?

I can understand why you are asking this question because you want to Subscribe to his YouTube Channel if he has one, but personally this sort of question does not suit the Discussion you posted it in, and it would be better if you sent Sparks a Personal Message to ask the question to him instead.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: JJ96 on December 28, 2015, 09:02:16 PM
So...question. What are the latest rumors on Oliver and Toad??? And do you think pics of them will soon surface? Maybe Feb? (Just to clarifying I'm not asking for the pics, just speculation on them and the eventual release.)


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on December 28, 2015, 09:05:07 PM
So...question. What are the latest rumors on Oliver and Toad??? And do you think pics of them will soon surface? Maybe Feb? (Just to clarifying I'm not asking for the pics, just speculation on them and the eventual release.)

I think some pictures of them will come up soon.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on December 28, 2015, 09:09:08 PM
I would expect pictures of Oliver and Toad as well as Oliver's retail price will be revealed in the 2016 catalog which would follow right after the 2016 announcements in February.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: JJ96 on December 28, 2015, 09:30:52 PM
I would expect pictures of Oliver and Toad as well as Oliver's retail price will be revealed in the 2016 catalog which would follow right after the 2016 announcements in February.
I figured, just wanted to hear some more input, thanks! Hope that happens!


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: TTTEfan1992 on December 28, 2015, 09:55:00 PM
Are the Bachmann catalogs released in mid February every year?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: chris123678 on December 28, 2015, 10:44:53 PM
Large Scale:
Edward. I'm actually surprised that they released Winston before Edward. He'd be somewhat massive like James, but  not on the extremes of what a Gordon or Henry would be.

I'd be happy to see large scale Duck too.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on December 28, 2015, 10:53:20 PM
Are the Bachmann catalogs released in mid February every year?

Yes they are, right around Toy Fair 2016 which will be in February 13-16.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: TTTEfan1992 on December 28, 2015, 11:17:56 PM
Chaz, do you know if the catalog will be uploaded right away online on the Bachmann website in the catalog category as soon as it is released, you know where anybody can look at the catalog online through a pdf. file through Adobe Reader?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: sean1994rail on December 29, 2015, 10:23:04 AM
Sometimes, the PDF catalog would take a few days to a week to be uploaded after the annual New York toy fair.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: TTTEfan1992 on December 30, 2015, 03:47:53 AM
Are pictures of announced products usually revealed, or available in the catalog a year after the catalog they're announced in?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on December 30, 2015, 03:54:37 AM
Sometimes they are, but there have been occasions when some products do not have pictures of them right at the moment they are announced. This is usually the case for engines and some rolling stock.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: sean1994rail on December 30, 2015, 05:08:13 AM
More often, they use promo pictures or in most cases in G scale, their HO models, for illustrative purposes.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Titanic5972 on December 30, 2015, 08:10:59 AM
I imagine that at some point Edward will appear in Large Scale. Emily and James have been released and they are both of a similar size to Edward. I'd love a large scale Gordon and Henry but I think the price would be prohibitive. One can but hope of course.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: TTTEfan1992 on December 30, 2015, 01:02:31 PM
How high of a chance do you think Oliver's and Toad's picture will be revealed in the Bachmann 2016 catalog?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: AJW98Productions on December 30, 2015, 01:08:13 PM
How high of a chance do you think Oliver's and Toad's picture will be revealed in the Bachmann 2016 catalog?
I assume they would be...reasonably high, though not 100%. If their photos do not appear in the catalogue however, I expect their prototype models will appear in February's Toy Fair; where of course, Bachmann will be making their announcements for next year. There is of course the ever present chance that both scenarios are wrong, and we will see neither their prototype models at the Toy Fair, nor pictures in the catalogue, I consider the latter-most of all 3 options highly unlikely though, but there are still chances of it occuring, so one must be careful not to presume too much.

Whenever we see photos of them, I very much look forward to it, I can't wait to see how these two classic characters will be handled by Bachmann :)

~Alex


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Titanic5972 on December 30, 2015, 01:46:13 PM
I'm hoping Oliver has th correct grey running plate, like in the original model series, not the black one like in the cgi series. That just looks wrong. Hopefully we will see a rerun of the express coaches as well. Maybe Henry in his pre-Flying Kipper Accident form too. And of course more troublesome trucks lol


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: AJW98Productions on December 30, 2015, 02:41:48 PM
Unfortunately, a model of Henry in his "pre-accident" form will probably never occur, he only appeared for about half of 1 Season, and as far as manufacturing costs are concerned, there just isn't high enough demand to justify the cost of manufacturing a new tooling for Henry, plus even in this year's "The Adventure Begins" they actually outright ignore Henry MK I, as the movie (I suspect at least) is supposed to take place prior to the events of "The Flying Kipper", but Henry appeared in his "new shape" for the whole movie.

I honestly think that because of Henry MK I's apparent absence in "The Adventure Begins", that Henry MK I has just essentially been "swept under the rug" by HiT Entertainment, and given the fact that Bachmann doesn't have anywhere near as much of a demand for Henry MK I as they do with Henry MK II, as with Henry MK II, they can appeal to all fans of the series, from almost any season. With Henry MK I, only those who are familiar with Season 1 will be familiar with the engine, meaning they lose a lot of sale potential to anyone who hasn't seen Season 1, which unfortunately a lot of the younger fanbase is unfamiliar with, meaning that it's harder to justify the high prices for manufacturing a large engine like Henry in a different form. Also as he is the same engine, so some fans may not wish to purchase it, as then they have 2 models of the same engine. Also, he just seems to look a bit more like Gordon in that form, which to even many older fans makes him look less unique, and therefore less appealing.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have a model of Henry MK I. I think I'm actually in the minority who like Henry in his MK I form basically as much (and at times a little more than), his MK II form. But unfortunately I just don't think it will happen. But I just don't see Bachmann producing it. At this current point in time, it would be basically financially unviable to produce Henry MK I, as it is only available to a very niche market, as opposed to the wider one which Bachmann need to appeal to in order to justify the high manufacturing costs for a large tooling like a new form of Henry, Not to mention they'd need to get HiT's approval, which for some reason I just don't think they would give, mostly for my aforementioned reasons. But I guess we can dream...

~Alex


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: sean1994rail on December 30, 2015, 03:24:28 PM
Could be a limited edition exclusive by a modelling shop that have good relationships with bachmann like walthers, tower hobbies, train sets only, ECT. Model zone and the model centre in the UK both got on well with manufacturers with creating exclusives.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on December 30, 2015, 05:38:25 PM
The problem I see with Henry's old shape isn't so much the tooling or design of the model, it's the major lack of appeal.   It wasn't even used for a full season of the show and the current design of Henry is far more iconic.  The sales are not there for the model either, from both younger and older fans.  Parents who would buy models for their kids wouldn't even know the difference between the two Henry's, nor would they really care.  Henry's old shape might win over some of the older fans, but it probably won't do anywhere near as much justice as one of the remaining classics like Stepney or Daisy.  Even Paxton would have better sales than Henry's old shape, and he would take a lot less effort on Bachmann's part to make, and would probably be cheaper too.  At the end of the day, Bachmann would much rather invest in making a character they haven't produced yet as the sales for them would be a lot more promising than one of their existing characters with a tooling change.  Even if they were to do a "limited edition" run of Henry's old shape, the amount of money and time that would go into production won't make up for the limited sales that would go for the model. 

It's not going to happen.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Metal on December 31, 2015, 04:54:16 PM
I couldn't really tell the difference until in recent years when I've realized it's just the firebox. Personally, I don't care much about Henry's Old Shape anyway. Even as a fan project, it's something I wouldn't really put my time in.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Griffin on January 02, 2016, 12:09:27 AM
How high of a chance do you think Oliver's and Toad's picture will be revealed in the Bachmann 2016 catalog?
Haven't they been delayed (along with G Scale Winston) until 2016 in favor of Skarloey? Wouldn't this mean they are going to be considered as part of the 2016 lineup? And techinacally, wouldn't this mean Bachmann has just now begun working on them? Food for thought...



Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on January 02, 2016, 01:34:44 AM
Haven't they been delayed (along with G Scale Winston) until 2016 in favor of Skarloey?

I wouldn't say that they were delayed "in favor" of Skarloey, I think Skarloey might have had higher priority than Oliver and Winston since the narrow gauge products was the new range that Bachmann had started to produce and wanted to start the range off strong but it might have taken the production team longer to produce all three of these models plus the various rolling stock in all three ranges.  They announced quite a lot last year so it doesn't entirely surprise me that not everything made it out in December.    

Wouldn't this mean they are going to be considered as part of the 2016 lineup? And techinacally, wouldn't this mean Bachmann has just now begun working on them? Food for thought...

I wouldn't consider them 2016 products, personally.  If they were announced in 2015 then I'd consider them part of the 2015 lineup despite possibly being labelled as "new" in the 2016 catalog which would probably be there to inform first-time buyers to let them know that new products will be available soon. 

Also Doug mentioned that they were working on Oliver and Winston when I talked to him at the NMRA last summer (August), but they were not quite ready for a display, let alone a release to the public.  So fortunately they did not "just now" start working on them if they were working on them before last August.  I think we will probably see them sometime in February in the catalog, if not that, then definitely around the spring.  


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: TTTEfan1992 on January 04, 2016, 02:10:19 AM
I have a good feeling that the Bachmann Oliver is going to be extremely close to the Hornby Oliver except the Bachmann Oliver will have the cgi face, black running board, closed cab windows and cab, and not as much detail as the Hornby Oliver like not having as many rivets as the Hornby Oliver. What do you all think?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 04, 2016, 05:00:28 AM
I have a good feeling that the Bachmann Oliver is going to be extremely close to the Hornby Oliver except the Bachmann Oliver will have the cgi face, black running board, closed cab windows and cab, and not as much detail as the Hornby Oliver like not having as many rivets as the Hornby Oliver. What do you all think?

I agree actually. I can see Bachmann Oliver having the CGI face, although I would prefer the face from the model-era series. I am pretty sure the rivets that we have on Hornby Oliver will not be on Bachmann Oliver. Nor will the handrails on Bachmann Oliver will be there, like Hornby Oliver has, and what handrails will be on Bachmann Oliver will just be moulded.
 


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: AJW98Productions on January 04, 2016, 11:49:31 AM
Whilst I believe Bachmann Oliver would have moulded handrails as opposed to...non-moulded handrails (or is seperately moulded a better term?) we must be careful about what we say, as Chaz put it not all that long ago, and in better words than I can think of:
Technically, there is nothing wrong with talking about other ranges on the forum, but there are boundaries such as not comparing the two ranges or saying one range or model is better than the other.  This is generally not allowed here since this is an official Bachmann Trains forum and representatives from other ranges cannot speak for themselves here.  Same can also be said for putting down either range or calling Hornby something along the lines of "H company" or "red box company".  
Whilst I don't think we have any kind of huge issues here yet, I believe that caution should be taken as to what we say on this kind of topic. But again, I don't think we have any issues here yet.

Anywayyy moving...slightly more on topic here, here are some more of my...semi-educated guesses about this year's range. I think I'll just put out some thoughts here for HO and G scale, as these ranges I'm the least sure of what to expect next (please note these are just my opinions, and are not indicative of everyone else's).
HO Gauge:
All I really see is at best maybe a freight wagon of some kind, as Oliver and Toad are already delayed to this year anyway, I guess they could maybe throw in an engine like Paxton but I'm not entirely sure of what to expect, if much at all.
G Gauge:
Since Winston has also been pushed back, at best all I see is another wagon being added to the range, but all I think we'll really get is Winston and nothing else.
...And the range I am probably still the most excited for...
Narrow Gauge:
I expect Rheneas as the next engine, and as a lot of people (myself included) have gone over why Rheneas will probably come next in the line, I won't dawdle too long on this point here.

If there's one thing I expect more than anything else in the range however, it's a humble brakevan of course.
Preferably the brown one, as it has been seen in both model, and CGI form, considering the stock that's currently on Bachmann's range, the brown Brakevan seems the most likely, being the only colour of Brakevan seen in the CGI and model series (see below), and it is also perfectly tailored to Bachmann's existing Narrow Gauge rolling stock, having been used so extensively on freight trains all throughout the show's runtime, and having even been used along side the Green and White Coaches in earlier seasons (see "A Bad Day For Sir Handel"), however of all the coaches, I consider those the least likely to appear in Bachmann's range, or at least, the ones that if they were released, would probably be released last, but more on that later. Anyway, tangent over, here are images of the Model era and CGI era Brown Brakevans:
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w493/AJW98Productions/Model%20series%20brakevan%20brown_zpssob6oubr.png) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/AJW98Productions/media/Model%20series%20brakevan%20brown_zpssob6oubr.png.html)
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w493/AJW98Productions/CGI%20brakevan_zpsfgoobunq.png) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/AJW98Productions/media/CGI%20brakevan_zpsfgoobunq.png.html)

Or alternatively perhaps we'd get the Blue Brakevan and the Red Brakevan from the classic series to fit with colours/colors of the Blue Box Van and Red Box Van respectively.

Anyway, whilst I'd like to see some coaches in next year's range, I don't think the Slate Trucks would be entirely out of place, the ones from the classic series in particular being very iconic. Having been so extensively used throughout the entire model era of Thomas and Friends, plus they look more unique than the current Open Wagon in the Narrow Gauge line I'd say, as Open Wagons like that did appear in standard gauge, but the Slate Trucks were always unique to the Narrow Gauge Railway. So it's not hard to see why they have a fair chance of being produced along side the brown Brakevan.
As a side note; I doubt we'd see them with faces, as the last time I recall seeing the slate trucks fitted with faces was all the way back in season 5, so maybe they'd look somewhat like their season 5 counterparts below (just with no faces)...
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w493/AJW98Productions/Slate%20trucks%20Season%205_zpst47naafz.png) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/AJW98Productions/media/Slate%20trucks%20Season%205_zpst47naafz.png.html)
Maybe with/without slate loads...I mean, I am just one person, but I think that could be something :) and also if I'm wrong here feel free to correct me, but aren't the slate trucks seen throughout the classic series a little overscaled next to their basis?

But if I had to be honest for what I wanted to see most next year, I would have the Brown Brakevan above on my "wishlist" but I'd also have another kind of Brakevan on there...and some matching coaches of course, so without further ado, I present to you...
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w493/AJW98Productions/NG%20Coaches%20-%20Blue%20and%20White%20%20Duke_zpsm0j3ayfu.png) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/AJW98Productions/media/NG%20Coaches%20-%20Blue%20and%20White%20%20Duke_zpsm0j3ayfu.png.html)
Duke pulling Agnes, Ruth, Lucy, Jemima, and Beatrice...oh wait...these are the TV Series Blue and White Coaches...
On a more serious note though, I'd say that of all the Narrow Gauge Coaches, not only are these (in my opinion) the most iconic, but also just my personal favourites really, so I'm probably heavily biased but nevertheless I feel they do have a lot of potential, being so extensively used throughout Season 4. I mean, I'm fairly sure almost every single Narrow Gauge Engine from the model era has pulled them at some point (with the only possible "Model Era" exceptions I can think of being Smudger and Bertram, both of whom were both only seen in one episode and never again).
Also given if Rheneas does come out next year, then we'll have a set of Blue and White Coaches and a Blue Brakevan, which in my opinion are the coaches which suit Skarloey and Rheneas best, as the colour contrast really does look quite nice with them.
They've been there right from the start, and have seen events such as Peter Sam leaving behind the refreshment lady, the events of Gallant Old Engine (a character defining moment for Rheneas and an episode that gave Duncan some character developement too), they also saw the events of "You Can't Win", they were there when Duncan needed to stop on the middle of a lake to gain steam and were also there when Duncan stalled on a Viaduct...and that's all in the space of just a few episodes of one season.
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w493/AJW98Productions/NG%20Coaches%20-%20Blue%20and%20White%20%20Rheneas%20-%20Gallant%20Old%20Engine_zpsx7ph3g05.png) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/AJW98Productions/media/NG%20Coaches%20-%20Blue%20and%20White%20%20Rheneas%20-%20Gallant%20Old%20Engine_zpsx7ph3g05.png.html)
Also, whilst my point about them being Agnes, Ruth, Lucy, Jemima, and Beatrice was merely my attempt at humour, the simple fact of the matter is that these coaches do bear a strong resemblance to the coaches of the Railway Series. Which is part of what I think think helps them stay in the hearts and minds of long term fans, and fans of both the Railway Series and TV Series (like myself).
I can even see the Railway Series modelers in the community applying "1" and "3", along with "SR" decals to show which compartments represent first class, and which compartments represent third class and to of course show that the coaches are property of the Skarloey Railway.
To me at least (and maybe this is wishful thinking on my part) but if these coaches were released into the range, I see them being very popular.
...The only downside I can think of is that they were last seen in season 10, so I do worry a little about their appeal to younger fans. Even the Green and White Coaches, along with the Red and Yellow Coaches, whilst far less iconic did last appear in the slightly more recent Season 12, which is still a while ago now, so it does sow the seeds of doubt in my mind as to whether or not they could appear.
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w493/AJW98Productions/NG%20Coaches%20-%20all%203_zps3b7btbx6.jpg) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/AJW98Productions/media/NG%20Coaches%20-%20all%203_zps3b7btbx6.jpg.html)
(To my knowledge, this is a deleted shot of all these classic coaches next to each other in "A Bad Day For Sir Handel")
Now, people may bring in the arguement of characters like S.C.Ruffey, and how he has not been seen since season 3 or 4 I think (?) but he was no more than a repaint and a new face mould for Bachmann, so an easy profit, but with these Narrow Gauge Coaches, each coach (Blue and White, Red and Yellow, Green and White) would be an entirely new tooling, and yes I did list the the Red and Yellow and Blue and White Coaches as different toolings, as they aren't actually identical, the photo above shows some minute differences between them, for example, it can't be seen in the above picture but, the Blue and White Coaches have more clearly visible...paneling...for lack of a better word, but, however, what is visible is that the body pieces of the Blue and White Coaches do not curve inwards just near the chassis like they do on the Red and Yellow coaches.
They even have entirely different basis', which can be seen on TTTEWikia:
http://ttte.wikia.com/wiki/Skarloey_Railway_Coaches

So that would mean my other most likely candidate for Coaches is the fan dubbed "Talyllyn Coaches"...
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w493/AJW98Productions/NG%20Coaches%20-%20CGI_zpsdokuk5er.png) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/AJW98Productions/media/NG%20Coaches%20-%20CGI_zpsdokuk5er.png.html)
Whilst certainly not my personal favourites, I can see why Bachmann could release them, as they are (so far) the only coaches to have appeared on the Narrow Gauge Railway in CGI. Personally I think they look overscaled (and as for representations of the Talyllyn Railway's coaches, they are overscaled), but also the paint work to me just doesn't look as nice as the coaches from the model era. But I realise Bachmann must try their best to cater to all demographics, not just those with the exact same mindset as me. So realistically I'll probably be happy with whatever coaches Bachmann may introduce into the Narrow Gauge range.

But who knows? Maybe we'll get thrown a massive curve ball with something like the D.Fusit Gunpowder Wagon appearing (I mean it's unlikely, but you never know)...
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w493/AJW98Productions/D.Fusit%20Gunpowder_zpsb2imqd4u.png) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/AJW98Productions/media/D.Fusit%20Gunpowder_zpsb2imqd4u.png.html)
So there's just a few of my thoughts on potential releases for next -I mean this year. Anyway, maybe I'm entirely wrong, it's impossible to know exactly what Bachmann will release next after all, "beggers can't be choosers" after all.
Anyway, until next time,
~Alex :)


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 04, 2016, 12:02:09 PM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #106 By AJW98Productions: I am not going to quote the Reply, before I get my head cut off by other Members!

That's a big post there Alex! It must have taken a long time to put together, but I do like it.

I hope we get four different coloured Brake Van's: A Red one, Blue one, Grey one and Brown one.

I also want the Narrow Gauge Red Coaches, then a Red Brake Van will sit well with the train.

I also want the Narrow Gauge Blue Coaches, then a Blue Brake Van will sit well with the train.

I also think the Slate Trucks will have a great potential release as well, and I would love the D.Fuisit Gunpowder Wagon's as well. Yes, they have not appeared much, but I would love to own them, and I think they would be popular if Bachman were to release them.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: AJW98Productions on January 04, 2016, 12:07:53 PM
^ Above 1 Reply @ Reply #107 By AJW98Productions: I am not going to quote the Reply, before I get my head cut off by other Members!

That's a big post there Alex! It must have taken a long time to put together, but I do like it.

I hope we get four different coloured Brake Van's: A Red one, Blue one, Grey one and Brown one.

I also want the Narrow Gauge Red Coaches, then a Red Brake Van will sit well with the train.

I also want the Narrow Gauge Blue Coaches, then a Blue Brake Van will sit well with the train.

I also think the Slate Trucks will have a great potential release as well, and I would love the D.Fuisit Gunpowder Wagon's as well. Yes, they have not appeared much, but I would love to own them, and I think they would be popular if Bachman were to release them.
Whilst I do want all those too (along with the Green and White Coaches, even though I consider them the least likely of the bunch), I was just putting out a few suggestions, because I don't think Bachmann could cover all that in one year. Personally if I had my choice, this year we'd see the Blue and White Coaches, Blue and Brown Brakevans, and Rheneas, but I realise that even that could be asking too much, and whilst that's what I want, it's not what everyone else wants...Bachmann does have to appeal to the largest possible demographic after all.

*EDIT* Yes that post did require a lot of time, but I figured a long post like that one would be useful for explaining out my thoughts :)

~Alex


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 04, 2016, 12:16:13 PM
^ Above 1 Reply @ Reply #107 By AJW98Productions: I am not going to quote the Reply, before I get my head cut off by other Members!

That's a big post there Alex! It must have taken a long time to put together, but I do like it.

I hope we get four different coloured Brake Van's: A Red one, Blue one, Grey one and Brown one.

I also want the Narrow Gauge Red Coaches, then a Red Brake Van will sit well with the train.

I also want the Narrow Gauge Blue Coaches, then a Blue Brake Van will sit well with the train.

I also think the Slate Trucks will have a great potential release as well, and I would love the D.Fuisit Gunpowder Wagon's as well. Yes, they have not appeared much, but I would love to own them, and I think they would be popular if Bachman were to release them.
Whilst I do want all those too (along with the Green and White Coaches, even though I consider them the least likely of the bunch), I was just putting out a few suggestions, because I don't think Bachmann could cover all that in one year. Personally if I had my choice, this year we'd see the Blue and White Coaches, Blue and Brown Brakevans, and Rheneas, but I realise that even that could be asking too much, and whilst that's what I want, it's not what everyone else wants...Bachmann does have to appeal to the largest possible demographic after all.

*EDIT* Yes that post did require a lot of time, but I figured a long post is useful for explaining out my thoughts :)

~Alex

I do know that is not a hope at all of everything you mentioned there, but all that stuff would be great to own if Bachmann could that all released in the next 5 years or so.

It was nice to see your thoughts Alex and my thoughts to share with you and too other readers as well, is what I mentioned in that post I made that you have replied too (Reply #108).


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: AJW98Productions on January 04, 2016, 12:21:06 PM
If you had your personal pick then Jacob, which of the products you listed would you most like to see next year? (Keeping in mind that, of course, they can't release everything we want in a single year :D)

~Alex


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: TTTEfan1992 on January 04, 2016, 12:22:36 PM
Why do we all have to be careful about what we say on here?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 04, 2016, 12:28:12 PM
If you had your personal pick then Jacob, which of the products you listed would you most like to see next year? (Keeping in mind that, of course, they can't release everything we want in a single year :D)

~Alex

The Red Coaches, Red Brake Van, Grey Brake Van and D.Fuist Gunpowder Wagon. I can't see more than four Rolling Stock products being released this year in the Narrow Gauge range.

Why do we all have to be careful about what we say on here?

Good question TTTEfan1992, but we just do, otherwise you post may get deleted by a moderator as it could be inappropriate and could offend other Members. At the day, this is an Official Forum by Bachmann Trains, so this in a way (In my mind), represents Bachmnn as company and manufacture, and anything posted by a Member on Forum could give Bachmann a bad name, so Members do need to cautious in what they post on the Forum.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: AJW98Productions on January 04, 2016, 12:32:05 PM
Why do we all have to be careful about what we say on here?

Good question TTTEfan1992, but we just do, otherwise you post may get deleted by a moderator as it could be inappropriate and could offend other Members. At the day, this is an Official Forum by Bachmann Trains, so this in a way (In my mind), represents Bachmnn as company and manufacture, and anything posted by a Member on Forum could give Bachmann a bad name, so Members do need to cautious in what they post on the Forum.
I don't think I could've said that any better myself. Jacob, you hit the nail right on the head, with a sledgehammer :)
I don't think that's just in your mind though, I think that is a very valid and rational point :)

~Alex


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 04, 2016, 12:38:10 PM
Why do we all have to be careful about what we say on here?

Good question TTTEfan1992, but we just do, otherwise you post may get deleted by a moderator as it could be inappropriate and could offend other Members. At the day, this is an Official Forum by Bachmann Trains, so this in a way (In my mind), represents Bachmnn as company and manufacture, and anything posted by a Member on Forum could give Bachmann a bad name, so Members do need to cautious in what they post on the Forum.
I don't think I could've said that any better myself. Jacob, you hit the nail right on the head, with a sledgehammer :)
I don't think that's just in your mind though, I think that is a very valid and rational point :)

~Alex

I really cannot see more than three or four pieces of Rolling Stock released this year in the Narrow Gauge range.

Did I get that right then Alex, of why we have to be careful of what we post as Members on the Bachmann Trains Forum?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: AJW98Productions on January 04, 2016, 12:47:04 PM
Did I get that right then Alex, of why we have to be careful of what we post as Members on the Bachmann Trains Forum?
That's the part I was specifically referring to specifically, so yes. That's at least part of why we must be careful (I think). After all, producers sometimes feel like their consumers can reflect the producer themselves, for better or for worse, but I sense we have gone off-topic here, so I'll just leave it at that for now, and continue to imagine the potentially glorius future of Bachmann's Narrow Gauge range (I mean, I will be one extremely happy fan if the Blue and White Coaches are released, along with a matching Blue Brake van of course). :)

~Alex


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 04, 2016, 12:50:16 PM
Did I get that right then Alex, of why we have to be careful of what we post as Members on the Bachmann Trains Forum?
That's the part I was specifically referring to specifically, so yes. That's at least part of why we must be careful (I think). After all, producers sometimes feel like their consumers can reflect the producer themselves, for better or for worse, but I sense we have gone off-topic here, so I'll just leave it at that for now, and continue to imagine the potentially glorius future of Bachmann's Narrow Gauge range (I mean, I will be one extremely happy fan if the Blue and White Coaches are released, along with a matching Blue Brake van of course). :)

~Alex

Thank you Alex.

I would like the Blue and White Coaches too with a matching Blue Brake Van, but my personal first choice is to have the Red Coaches from the model-era, along with a matching Red Brake Coach. This the Red Coach I ma talking about that we see Skarloey pulling (Please click on the website link I have posted below to view the image I am talking about):

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/ttte/images/9/92/FourLittleEngines2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130812053625/.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Sparks on January 04, 2016, 01:43:31 PM
I think for coaches, it will boil down to either Bachmann repainting Pecos 4-wheel GVT coaches, or the possibility of them making Talyllyn coaches that they can repaint into Thomas coaches too. Time will tell on that matter, since a lot of people speculate Skarloey is going to be retooled into a Talyllyn model.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: AJW98Productions on January 04, 2016, 01:47:01 PM
I think for coaches, it will boil down to either Bachmann repainting Pecos 4-wheel GVT coaches, or the possibility of them making Talyllyn coaches that they can repaint into Thomas coaches too. Time will tell on that matter, since a lot of people speculate Skarloey is going to be retooled into a Talyllyn model.
Whilst I unfortunately think you could be right about the Peco GVT 4 Wheel Coaches being repainted there Sparks, I personally would love it if Bachmann made their own tooling for the Skarloey Railway Coaches, which could then be retooled into Talyllyn Railway Coaches. But you are correct, only time will tell.

~Alex


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Sparks on January 04, 2016, 01:49:04 PM
As I mentioned in a previous post, Peco is making a Talyllyn version of the GVT coach, which is on the Talyllyn Railway;
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/Talyllyn_Railway_Coach_14_-_2008-06-05.jpg)

I don't know if the Skarloey Railway has any sort of fictional equivalent to  it.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: AJW98Productions on January 04, 2016, 02:01:21 PM
To my knowledge, the Skarloey Railway has no equivalent of the GVT Coach (which is part of why I hope Bachmann may make their own coach tooling next year). But I suppose beggers can't be choosers. Still, thank you for sharing the picture of the real life GVT Coach and some of your knowledge there, Sparks :)

On a side note I find that the GVT Coach really sticks out from the other Talyllyn Railway Coaches (probably the different livery and smaller size), it actually looks quite charming in amongst the other coaches :)

~Alex


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 04, 2016, 02:14:45 PM
I think for coaches, it will boil down to either Bachmann repainting Pecos 4-wheel GVT coaches, or the possibility of them making Talyllyn coaches that they can repaint into Thomas coaches too. Time will tell on that matter, since a lot of people speculate Skarloey is going to be retooled into a Talyllyn model.
Whilst I unfortunately think you could be right about the Peco GVT 4 Wheel Coaches being repainted there Sparks, I personally would love it if Bachmann made their own tooling for the Skarloey Railway Coaches, which could then be retooled into Talyllyn Railway Coaches. But you are correct, only time will tell.

~Alex

I agree, Alex. If Bachmann also created their tooling for the Coaches and Brake Van's, I have feeling this will bring the price tag of the Narrow Gauge Rolling Stock down, as the reason why lasts years (2015) Wagon's cost so much is so Bachammn make a profit, costs also go to PECO as it their tooling and part of the cost goes to HiT Entertainment for the licensing of it, being it is a Thomas & Friends product.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Metal on January 04, 2016, 03:14:15 PM
Seeing how the show is going now. Based on the characters appearances and roles.
Here's how I think the NG chracters would be released

After Rheneas
-A 50/50 toss-up between Peter Sam and Duncan
-Followed by Rusty
-And Sir Handel last, considering he's had very few appearances.

Thoughts??


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 04, 2016, 03:24:15 PM
Seeing how the show is going now. Based on the characters appearances and roles.
Here's how I think the NG chracters would be released

After Rheneas
-A 50/50 toss-up between Peter Sam and Duncan
-Followed by Rusty
-And Sir Handel last, considering he's had very few appearances.

Thoughts??

I think they will come out in number order. I think personally each year they will be released like this:

2016 - Rheneas
2017 - Sir Handel
2018 - Peter Sam
2019 - Rusty
2020 - Duncan


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: JJ96 on January 04, 2016, 04:24:37 PM
Seeing how the show is going now. Based on the characters appearances and roles.
Here's how I think the NG chracters would be released

After Rheneas
-A 50/50 toss-up between Peter Sam and Duncan
-Followed by Rusty
-And Sir Handel last, considering he's had very few appearances.

Thoughts??

I think they will come out in number order. I think personally each year they will be released like this:

2016 - Rheneas
2017 - Sir Handel
2018 - Peter Sam
2019 - Rusty
2020 - Duncan

I think that if the line gets popular enough we could see two releases per year, maybe too early for that this year now that I think about it so...
2016- Rheneas
2017- Peter Sam and Rusty
2018- Duncan and Sir Handel OR Luke (call be crazy, but I could see it)

As far as rolling stock and coaches go, I'd love to see some slate cars, but regardless of what color I think the coaches are  among the highest priorities (excluding engines)


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on January 04, 2016, 04:41:24 PM
I wouldn't mind if the narrow gauge engines went in numerical order, but I would imagine Bachmann would more likely go for some of the more popular narrow gauge characters first before moving onto some of the less popular ones.  The one Metal posted earlier is pretty much equivalent of what I would have guessed.  I don't see any of the newer narrow gauge engines like Luke or even Millie happening anytime soon though. 


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: JJ96 on January 04, 2016, 04:48:51 PM
I wouldn't mind if the narrow gauge engines went in numerical order, but I would imagine Bachmann would more likely go for some of the more popular narrow gauge characters first before moving onto some of the less popular ones.  The one Metal posted earlier is pretty much equivalent of what I would have guessed.  I don't see any of the newer narrow gauge engines like Luke or even Millie happening anytime soon though. 
I agree not anytime soon, but if they are focusing the narrow gauge line on the CGI series more than the classic Luke has had decent exposure. So I do think he is realistic, but I agree, not anytime soon.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on January 04, 2016, 05:14:05 PM
Admittedly if there is any CGI narrow gauge engine who I could see happening after or almost after the main six narrow gauge engines are made I would think Victor would make the most sense because he is a lot more iconic and has been popular since his debut in Hero of the Rails. 

Fair point on Luke though, he is another one of my favorites in CGI I think he would look pretty nice from Bachmann. 


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 04, 2016, 05:16:38 PM
I wouldn't mind if the narrow gauge engines went in numerical order, but I would imagine Bachmann would more likely go for some of the more popular narrow gauge characters first before moving onto some of the less popular ones.  The one Metal posted earlier is pretty much equivalent of what I would have guessed.  I don't see any of the newer narrow gauge engines like Luke or even Millie happening anytime soon though. 

I do not see Luke or Millie getting released soon, but I would like Bachmann to release them at some point in the future. Before Bachmann release Luke and Millie, we defiantly need Rheneas, Sir Handel, Peter Sam, Rusty and Duncan.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: JJ96 on January 05, 2016, 10:36:46 PM
As I mentioned in a previous post, Peco is making a Talyllyn version of the GVT coach, which is on the Talyllyn Railway;
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/Talyllyn_Railway_Coach_14_-_2008-06-05.jpg)

I don't know if the Skarloey Railway has any sort of fictional equivalent to  it.
I wouldn't mind if they just repainted the Peco coaches, as long as the colors were show accurate. I genuinely wouldn't mind not complain, because we'd still be getting coaches.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: ThomasFan1993 on January 06, 2016, 09:10:10 AM

I think they will come out in number order. I think personally each year they will be released like this:

2016 - Rheneas
2017 - Sir Handel
2018 - Peter Sam
2019 - Rusty
2020 - Duncan

Maybe they'll release about 3 Narrow Gauge Engines per year:

2016 - Rheneas, Sir Handel & Peter Sam
2017 - Rusty, Duncan & Duke
2018 - Victor, Millie & Luke
2019 - Mighty Mac, Freddie & Proteus


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 06, 2016, 12:48:47 PM

I think they will come out in number order. I think personally each year they will be released like this:

2016 - Rheneas
2017 - Sir Handel
2018 - Peter Sam
2019 - Rusty
2020 - Duncan

Maybe they'll release about 3 Narrow Gauge Engines per year:

2016 - Rheneas, Sir Handel & Peter Sam
2017 - Rusty, Duncan & Duke
2018 - Victor, Millie & Luke
2019 - Mighty Mac, Freddie & Proteus

It would be nice of we get three Narrow Gauge Loco's a year, but since we got one last year, I would be surprised. Two could be too many. Maybe we could get three a year, two at the most, but currently I am only expecting one a year at the most.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: thomasj219 on January 06, 2016, 08:29:37 PM
Here's the way I see it going.

2016 Rheneas & Rusty
2017 Sir Handel & Peter Sam
2018 Duncan & Duke (If he makes a comeback in the show)

If they stick to one a year I still think it will be the same order, except it will stretch to 2021.
BACHMANN have always shown  they are aware of the need to cater to the older crowd when it comes to highly priced electric models.  They are guaranteed sales in our market and the parents will buy anything Thomas so it's win win.  I'm confident that if this is the lineup they end up going with the Narrow Gauge range will be enormously successful.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 06, 2016, 08:35:35 PM
Here's the way I see it going.

2016 Rheneas & Rusty
2017 Sir Handel & Peter Sam
2018 Duncan & Duke (If he makes a comeback in the show)

If they stick to one a year I still think it will be the same order, except it will stretch to 2021.
BACHMANN have always shown  they are aware of the need to cater to the older crowd when it comes to highly priced electric models.  They are guaranteed sales in our market and the parents will buy anything Thomas so it's win win.  I'm confident that if this is the lineup they end up going with the Narrow Gauge range will be enormously successful.

Bachmann do need to be careful though. They can't go release about 5 Locomotives in one year. Bachmann took a risk I do believe releasing the Narrow Gauge, which I think is a good risk the took, but it could had easily been a disaster and they need to make sure that every year, this range is popular and Bachmann are not wasting money tooling and release new Narrow Gauge Locomotives. I would do not even see two Narrow Gauge Locomotives being released this year. One at the most, maybe two. I would be surprised if we get two.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on January 06, 2016, 09:51:56 PM
It's pretty rare for Bachmann to announce more than two engines a year.  In the case of narrow gauge though, I would expect only one maybe two a year maximum.  Rusty would be a reasonable candidate to be a second engine to join another character at the same time since his design is simple enough for Bachmann to work with in a reasonable amount of time. 


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 07, 2016, 05:04:52 AM
It's pretty rare for Bachmann to announce more than two engines a year.  In the case of narrow gauge though, I would expect only one maybe two a year maximum.  Rusty would be a reasonable candidate to be a second engine to join another character at the same time since his design is simple enough for Bachmann to work with in a reasonable amount of time.  

I agree Chaz. I think we will only get one Locomotive this year and think it will be Rheneas.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: sean1994rail on January 07, 2016, 09:58:40 AM
So do I. Since Oliver is due with toad in 2016, either Rheneas, Rusty or Duncan would probably be the most likely next locomotive candidates IMO. Then I guess 1 HO and 1 HOn30 engine every year after that.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 07, 2016, 11:04:27 AM
So do I. Since Oliver is due with toad in 2016, either Rheneas, Rusty or Duncan would probably be the most likely next locomotive candidates IMO. Then I guess 1 HO and 1 HOn30 engine every year after that.

I agree with you, sean1994rail. I think ever from now on. One HO Locomotive and one Narrow Gauge Locomotive.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: TTTEfan1992 on January 15, 2016, 10:33:57 PM
Does anybody know if the Bachmann 2016 catalog will be available to look at online right when the catalogs are released (February 13-16), or will it take some time to be uploaded online after they're released?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on January 15, 2016, 10:56:04 PM
They are usually up by around the same time, so I am fairly certain that you should be able to see the catalog around that time.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: TTTEfan1992 on January 16, 2016, 12:08:06 AM
Do you have a good feeling that Oliver's and Toad's model picture will be revealed in this year's catalog?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 16, 2016, 05:14:48 AM
Do you have a good feeling that Oliver's and Toad's model picture will be revealed in this year's catalog?

Yes, I think Bachmann will reveal Oliver and Toad in this year's Catalogue.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: TTTEfan1992 on January 18, 2016, 02:41:12 AM
For those of you that are interested, I found an estimated shipping date on Bachmann Oliver, and I also heard when Bachmann Toad is possibly going to be released.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 18, 2016, 03:44:11 AM
For those of you that are interested, I found an estimated shipping date on Bachmann Oliver, and I also heard when Bachmann Toad is possibly going to be released.

When are these shipping dates, TTTEfan1992?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: TTTEfan1992 on January 18, 2016, 03:55:48 AM
Well, online I found an estimated shipping date for Bachmann Oliver on Train Sets Only that says April 5, 2016. I wouldn't count on that too hard, because it's been known to change. As for Bachmann Toad, I heard that he is supposed to be released in either April, or May.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 18, 2016, 12:39:08 PM
Well, online I found an estimated shipping date for Bachmann Oliver on Train Sets Only that says April 5, 2016. I wouldn't count on that too hard, because it's been known to change. As for Bachmann Toad, I heard that he is supposed to be released in either April, or May.

That's quite long to be honest with you when Oliver and Toad where announced in February 2015.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: TTTEfan1992 on January 18, 2016, 01:15:36 PM
What does that mean?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 18, 2016, 01:57:21 PM
What does that mean?

Sorry, I meant April or May is quite a long wait as they where announced back February 2015.

That was the auto correction on my iPad! That is the only downside when posting things on iPad's!


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: TTTEfan1992 on January 18, 2016, 03:08:49 PM
I agree, that is too long to wait for something to be released. At least Bachmann is taking their time to make their products look really good especially Oliver if they do. I hope they make Oliver look good like they base his scale from the classic series instead of the cgi series to make his size match with the other HO/OO Thomas locomotives. His cgi series scale is too small to match up with the other locomotives IMO. His classic series scale would fit much better with the other locomotives. I hope Oliver and Toad don't take as long to be released as Duck did. Duck was announced in February 2012, and wasn't released til July 2013.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 18, 2016, 03:18:19 PM
I agree, that is too long to wait for something to be released. At least Bachmann is taking their time to make their products look really good especially Oliver if they do. I hope they make Oliver look good like they base his scale from the classic series instead of the cgi series to make his size match with the other HO/OO Thomas locomotives. His cgi series scale is too small to match up with the other locomotives IMO. His classic series scale would fit much better with the other locomotives. I hope Oliver and Toad don't take as long to be released as Duck did. Duck was announced in February 2012, and wasn't released til July 2013.

Well the public having too wait this long for Bachmann Oliver and Toad to be released, they should be good models. The Red Branchline Coaches are also excellent and I love those. They are perfect, but they where late released as well. They where announced in February 2014 and released in August 2015.

I find it odd why these standard HO Gauge Locomotives and Rolling Stock where released late, yet the Narrow Gauge stuff where released on time. With last year's new announcement's, I was expecting everything to be released in 2015, except the Narrow Gauge range which surprising did get released before Christmas. Even Skarloey did, which really surprised me. I was pretty sure Oliver and Toad would be released before the Narrow Gauge, but surprisingly it was the other way around!


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on January 18, 2016, 03:28:51 PM
In all honesty seeing as how some products like the red coaches, Duck, and even the sound Thomas took a long time to make, I wouldn't be entirely surprised if we didn't get Oliver and Toad until this summer. 

Narrow gauge is Bachmann's newest range and therefore would take higher priority over HO and large scale which is why Skarloey was finished before Oliver and Winston.  Basically it's Bachmann's way of "starting the range off strong" if you will since they would really need to make the sales for Skarloey popular enough to warrant the sales for other characters to join the range in the future since not as many shops sell HOn30.

Something tells me that apart from the delayed products, the exact same thing would happen which wouldn't be a bad thing since I wouldn't mind having Oliver out alongside another narrow gauge engine.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 18, 2016, 03:35:23 PM
In all honesty seeing as how some products like the red coaches, Duck, and even the sound Thomas took a long time to make, I wouldn't be entirely surprised if we didn't get Oliver and Toad until this summer.  

Narrow gauge is Bachmann's newest range and therefore would take higher priority over HO and large scale which is why Skarloey was finished before Oliver and Winston.  Basically it's Bachmann's way of "starting the range off strong" if you will since they would really need to make the sales for Skarloey popular enough to warrant the sales for other characters to join the range in the future since not as many shops sell HOn30.

Something tells me that apart from the delayed products, the exact same thing would happen which wouldn't be a bad thing since I wouldn't mind having Oliver out alongside another narrow gauge engine.

But if we got Oliver and Toad in the Summertime, that would make it about a year and a half wait, which is an awful long time. Products should not take this long. We are in the 21st century now. We have been for 6 years now, so the technology in manufacturing new products should be much easier and not as long time consuming wise.

That's true about the Narrow Gauge range though. A late launch in that would probably give the range a bad name, and I am hoping for Rheneas and Narrow Gauge Coaches this year!


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: sean1994rail on January 18, 2016, 03:57:01 PM
G scale ice cream wagon image.

http://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=6022 (http://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=6022)


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 18, 2016, 04:02:03 PM
G scale ice cream wagon image.

http://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=6022 (http://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=6022)

The Ice Cream logo on it looks weird.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: sean1994rail on January 18, 2016, 04:04:14 PM
It's the same ident as that on the HO model. It looks immaculately detailed to me.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on January 18, 2016, 04:04:38 PM
We are in the 21st century now. We have been for 6 years now, so the technology in manufacturing new products should be much easier and not as long time consuming wise.

This train of thought becomes derailed when there is a lot of time, production, and money being put into the Thomas models.  There is a lot of communication between Bachmann, Mattel, and China in regards to deciding the character, it's design the price, etc.  So if anything, considering today's economy, what you just said, you got backwards.  The technology might be there, but with how slow manufacturing and production has been for Bachmann and a few other ranges, it's understandable why most of their models take a lot more time to come out, even if some arguably should have been out a lot earlier.  It's been like this for a long time for Bachmann so it's something I and a few other users have gotten used to, but whenever a model does come out the year it's announced its always a nice plus.  Patience is a virtue.

The large scale ice cream wagon looks really nice. The tooling looks a lot nicer than the HO model, I can see it being popular with those who want to repaint it to a regular van.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 18, 2016, 04:24:00 PM
It's the same ident as that on the HO model. It looks immaculately detailed to me.

I do not remember the 'squares' on the ice cream cone on the HO model.

We are in the 21st century now. We have been for 6 years now, so the technology in manufacturing new products should be much easier and not as long time consuming wise.

This train of thought becomes derailed when there is a lot of time, production, and money being put into the Thomas models.  There is a lot of communication between Bachmann, Mattel, and China in regards to deciding the character, it's design the price, etc.  So if anything, considering today's economy, what you just said, you got backwards.  The technology might be there, but with how slow manufacturing and production has been for Bachmann and a few other ranges, it's understandable why most of their models take a lot more time to come out, even if some arguably should have been out a lot earlier.  It's been like this for a long time for Bachmann so it's something I and a few other users have gotten used to, but whenever a model does come out the year it's announced its always a nice plus.  Patience is a virtue.

The large scale ice cream wagon looks really nice. The tooling looks a lot nicer than the HO model, I can see it being popular with those who want to repaint it to a regular van.

Hornby have been quite sloe with manufacturing as well from around 2010 or 2011. I know manufacturing is slow, especially in model ,but I can never really understand why this is the case when Bachmann and Hornby have produced model railway products for years. I am pretty sure it has been the 1970's that the Locomotive's have used electricity for their power, so why 40 odd years later they have so many manufacturing problems? It just does not make sense!


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: sean1994rail on January 18, 2016, 04:35:13 PM
Could have been the size of the HO ident. After all, they did enlarged it for the G scale model.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 18, 2016, 04:39:25 PM
Could have been the size of the HO ident. After all, they did enlarged it for the G scale model.

Well I am glad they did enlarge the logo, otherwise it would not be easy notice it on the Large Scale Model!


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: SportyPup on January 20, 2016, 07:48:41 PM
Finally, a picture of the G Scale Ice Cream Wagon!!  That was what I was most excited about when the new announcements were made, even though I eventually became more enthusiastic about the narrow gauge stuff.

Narrow Gauge seems to be selling very well, so I'm sure the range will be expanded for 2016.  I wouldn't mind waiting a couple years for more Large Scale releases it if means we could get a nice well rounded Skarloey Railway going.  And as far a HO scale, other than Oliver and Toad there aren't tons of promising new toolings left, unless some discontinued stuff is brought back, but I doubt that at the moment.  I only hope there won't be MORE discontinued items :(


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 20, 2016, 08:12:56 PM
Finally, a picture of the G Scale Ice Cream Wagon!!  That was what I was most excited about when the new announcements were made, even though I eventually became more enthusiastic about the narrow gauge stuff.

Narrow Gauge seems to be selling very well, so I'm sure the range will be expanded for 2016.  I wouldn't mind waiting a couple years for more Large Scale releases it if means we could get a nice well rounded Skarloey Railway going.  And as far a HO scale, other than Oliver and Toad there aren't tons of promising new toolings left, unless some discontinued stuff is brought back, but I doubt that at the moment.  I only hope there won't be MORE discontinued items :(

I hope there are no more discontinued items either this year.

Yes, the Narrow Gauge range is selling well and I am hoping for Rheneas, Coaches and Brake Van's this year!


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on January 20, 2016, 08:52:06 PM
Welcome back DoggySporty/SportyPup, nice to have you back!

If there are any discontinued products I can only imagine it would only mean that it would lead to more products in the future to come in, since Bachmann simply can't keep making everything every year.  But I am most excited for what's to come for narrow gauge the most since Oliver and Toad alone have me pretty happy as it is. 


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: TTTEfan1992 on January 20, 2016, 09:04:09 PM
I can see the Bachmann Toad being a lot better than the Hornby Toad. Do you think the Bachmann Oliver is going to be better than, same as, or worse than the Hornby Oliver?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on January 20, 2016, 09:18:18 PM
Let's try not to have this kind of discussion on this forum.  Especially since this is a Bachmann forum and staff do not approve of comparisons with other ranges.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: SportyPup on January 20, 2016, 09:34:42 PM
Welcome back DoggySporty/SportyPup, nice to have you back!

Thank you, I feel welcomed!   ;D

There's a few rolling stock items I wouldn't miss too terribly, now that I think about it…
At least my favorite Bachmann engine, Gordon, is a great seller, so I don't think he's going anywhere.  And at the very least he has some nice red coaches to pull.  Better than Annie and Clarabel!  ;)


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: TTTEfan1992 on January 20, 2016, 09:51:22 PM
Sorry, I am just excited for Bachmann Oliver to be released and to see him as well. We're all going to see Bachmann Oliver soon.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Metal on January 20, 2016, 10:42:20 PM
For Rolling Stock
I was thinking that Bachmann could rehash this Sliding Door Van into a Thomas product from their old Mainline Range.
(http://ebid.s3.amazonaws.com/upload_medbig/0/4/6/1385352231-14627-4.jpg)\
(http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/20048869/aview/1360925350135_IMG_8851.jpg)

Please Don't Quote This, As it will clog up the thread


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 21, 2016, 04:12:23 AM
Welcome back DoggySporty/SportyPup, nice to have you back!

If there are any discontinued products I can only imagine it would only mean that it would lead to more products in the future to come in, since Bachmann simply can't keep making everything every year.  But I am most excited for what's to come for narrow gauge the most since Oliver and Toad alone have me pretty happy as it is.  

I do not want Bachmann to discontinue anymore prodhcts though. I have already missed the Red Express Coaches, Slat Wagon, Cattle Wagon, 6 Ton Wagon, RF Container Wagon, Flat Car with Paint Drums and the Well Wagon.

Sorry, I am just excited for Bachmann Oliver to be released and to see him as well. We're all going to see Bachmann Oliver soon.

Not until around April or May apparently, and I would not be surprised if Oliver and Toad get delayed longer than this.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: TTTEfan1992 on January 21, 2016, 09:44:38 AM
Well, we'll all see them both in this year's catalog in the middle of next month.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 21, 2016, 12:04:21 PM
Well, we'll all see them both in this year's catalog in the middle of next month.

Yes we will. I am very interested in what Bachmann will be revealing this year in the Bachmann Thomas & Friends HO/OO Gauge range and what Bachmann will be discontinuing this year.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: DinoNTrains on January 21, 2016, 01:12:21 PM
RE: Metal

Sliding door cars for Bachmann's range is a great idea! Why I think this is because I think it would be a nice gimmick, and it would reflect real railways.

P.S. I honestly think there should be individual coal/gravel loads for open wagons.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 21, 2016, 01:25:50 PM
^^^^^ Above 5 Replies - @Reply #166 By Metal: Why do you think those old Mainline Railways Ventilated Van's with sliding doors will be good for the Bachmann Thomas & Friends HO/OO Gauge range?

RE: Metal

Sliding door cars for Bachmann's range is a great idea! Why I think this is because I think it would be a nice gimmick, and it would reflect real railways.

P.S. I honestly think there should be individual coal/gravel loads for open wagons.

I personally would  prefer more of 77026 Ventilated Van in different colours. I do not like Ventilated Van's with sliding doors.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: sean1994rail on January 24, 2016, 05:57:48 PM
For HO new rolling stock, I would say the Hopper Wagon and the Fruit Van.

The Hopper Wagon would go well with Mavis and Paxton, if the latter is announced. And I've no objection of it having a stone or slate load.

The Fruit Van is the only ex-mainline van tool that bachmann has yet to use. I'm not sure which livery to give this one, but hopefully, it would be bright and colourful, but what colour would you think be appropriate for the fruit van if announced?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 24, 2016, 06:04:30 PM
For HO new rolling stock, I would say the Hopper Wagon and the Fruit Van.

The Hopper Wagon would go well with Mavis and Paxton, if the latter is announced. And I've no objection of it having a stone or slate load.

The Fruit Van is the only ex-mainline van tool that bachmann has yet to use. I'm not sure which livery to give this one, but hopefully, it would be bright and colourful, but what colour would you think be appropriate for the fruit van if announced?

Why do you want a Fruit Van? That sounds like an odd release too me! I am not sure I would buy it, if it would get released. I can't even remember seeing a Fruit Van on the TV Series? Is there a screenshot picture anywhere on the Internet of this Fruit Van, on the TV Series?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: sean1994rail on January 24, 2016, 06:06:27 PM
James, Percy and the fruitful day. 3 troublesome trucks and a ventilated van was carrying fruit.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 24, 2016, 06:14:37 PM
James, Percy and the fruitful day. 3 troublesome trucks and a ventilated van was carrying fruit.

I think I remember this Episode now and the Fruit Van's you are talking about. I will look for the 'James, Percy and the Fruitful Day' Episode on YouTube (Clearly I have not seen it for a while), but I do not think they would be successful if Bachmann where to release them. I admit Bachmann need to release more Ventilated Van's, because I do love them, but I think the Fireworks Van's would be more successful than the Fruit Van's for a selling and marketing point of view.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: sean1994rail on January 24, 2016, 06:17:49 PM
Maybe the fruit van could be a good candidate for troublesome truck 5. The fruit van could be a good way for getting kids to eat healthy. In real life, there were fruit vans of various styles designed for conveyance of fruit by rail, there was even a ventilated van type designed for transporting bananas.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 24, 2016, 06:20:34 PM
Maybe the fruit van could be a good candidate for troublesome truck 5.

Maybe it could do, or Troublesome Truck #5 could be a Tanker, like you see in the very early TV Series. I would love to have a one of these Troublesome Truck Tanker's! It would be so cool, and some different variety in the Troublesome Truck's available.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: sean1994rail on January 24, 2016, 06:21:57 PM
If a tanker for troublesome truck 5, maybe the discontinued tar tanker could be used.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 24, 2016, 06:24:15 PM
If a tanker for troublesome truck 5, maybe the discontinued tar tanker could be used.

Personally, if a Tanker would be used by Bachmann for Troublesome Truck #5, I would prefer it to be a plain black Tanker with no livery on it, with a small face on one end.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on January 24, 2016, 07:55:22 PM
A sliding door van seems like a pretty reasonable idea coming from Bachmann since the ice cream van is the same tooling, minus the sliding door.  I'd say that addition would be pretty welcome in the Thomas range.  

A hopper wouldn't be a bad idea either coming from Bachmann, especially since the tooling would also be reused from the Mainline range:
(https://hattonsimages.blob.core.windows.net/products/37408-LN_3096917_Qty1_1.jpg)

I wouldn't mind seeing this having a ballast load included either, just like the coal wagon.  

As for the fruit van, that type of van has never been introduced through Mainline, so if they were to do this for the Thomas range, it would have to be a new tooling Bachmann would have to look into.  It also wouldn't be a bad idea for a Troublesome Truck #5 either since the same van has been used as a troublesome truck before.

(http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/ttte/images/a/ae/TheWorld%27sStrongestEngine33.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20151117001320)

I wouldn't mind if they did this but personally I'm a little doubtful since it's not often Bachmann make new toolings for rolling stock nowadays.  I'll admit that if they did this it would certainly be a step up compared to their other troublesome trucks, but at this point I would think that if we were to get a Troublesome Truck #5 I would assume they would use the tooling from either the salt wagon or ice cream wagon.  


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 24, 2016, 08:18:24 PM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #180 By Chaz: Good point there Chaz. The Closed Van that big face would also be a good Troublesome Truck for Bachmann to release. I hope either Troublesome Truck #5 or Troublesome Truck #6 will be the Closed Van with the big face (As pictured above in Chaz's post) or the Tanker I mentioned in a few post's above, with the small face at one end.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: UPTODAY on January 24, 2016, 10:44:12 PM
Hey,CHAZ,those hoppers are really neat looking,we could use a bunch of those!!!!(no purple)
UPTODAY


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: TrainMan2001 on January 24, 2016, 11:34:00 PM
I hope they make BoCo, the Fruit Van, and a separate sale Snowplow for Thomas.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Sparks on January 25, 2016, 02:01:51 AM
Just a reminder that Toy Fair is in 3 weeks. The countdown begins.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: TTTEfan1992 on January 25, 2016, 02:25:03 AM
I know the toy fair is an exciting event for the Bachmann range, so I have my own reasons why I'm excited for the toy fair. I want to know out of curiosity. Why are you excited for the toy fair?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 25, 2016, 04:03:54 AM
Hey,CHAZ,those hoppers are really neat looking,we could use a bunch of those!!!!(no purple)
UPTODAY

I thought the 'Purple' related to Brake Van's?!

I hope they make BoCo, the Fruit Van, and a separate sale Snowplow for Thomas.

BoCo and Thomas' Snowplow on it's own would be nice.

Just a reminder that Toy Fair is in 3 weeks. The countdown begins.
I know the toy fair is an exciting event for the Bachmann range, so I have my own reasons why I'm excited for the toy fair. I want to know out of curiosity. Why are you excited for the toy fair?

Is this when Bachmann will announce the new releases?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Titanic5972 on January 25, 2016, 06:11:40 AM
I know the toy fair is an exciting event for the Bachmann range, so I have my own reasons why I'm excited for the toy fair. I want to know out of curiosity. Why are you excited for the toy fair?

When is the toy fair?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 25, 2016, 11:01:16 AM
I know the toy fair is an exciting event for the Bachmann range, so I have my own reasons why I'm excited for the toy fair. I want to know out of curiosity. Why are you excited for the toy fair?

When is the toy fair?

I agree. Where and when is the Toy Fair?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: TTTEfan1992 on January 25, 2016, 11:10:02 AM
The toy fair runs from February 13-16, 2016 in New York City.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: TTTEfan1992 on January 25, 2016, 11:24:15 AM
Yes Jaicob, the toy fair is when Bachmann announces new releases this year, and it's the time when announced products that haven't been released yet are revealed in the new catalog. For instance, Oliver's and Toad's actual model pictures will most likely be revealed in this year's catalog as they were announced last year.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 25, 2016, 12:50:14 PM
The toy fair runs from February 13-16, 2016 in New York City.

Oh, dear. I will not be able to attend the Toy Fair then. I live in the UK, not the USA!

Yes Jaicob, the toy fair is when Bachmann announces new releases this year, and it's the time when announced products that haven't been released yet are revealed in the new catalog. For instance, Oliver's and Toad's actual model pictures will most likely be revealed in this year's catalog as they were announced last year.

I look forward to seeing what Bachmann Oliver and Toad will look like. I hope soon we will know the new announcements of this year as well.

 


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: sean1994rail on January 25, 2016, 05:45:10 PM
I almost forgot about the China Clay wagon.

Another possibility in HO. Will go well with Bill and Ben.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 25, 2016, 05:52:18 PM
I almost forgot about the China Clay wagon.

Another possibility in HO. Will go well with Bill and Ben.

Yes, a China Clay Truck would be nice. It will be perfect for Bill and Ben!


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: ClrwtrMK2 on January 26, 2016, 01:49:16 PM
They already did a China Clay Wagon, But it was for the Narrow Gauge. Same can be said for the Old Vans... Both the China Clay Wagon & Old Van should be scaled up to HO.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 26, 2016, 02:15:56 PM
They already did a China Clay Wagon, But it was for the Narrow Gauge. Same can be said for the Old Vans... Both the China Clay Wagon & Old Van should be scaled up to HO.

I guess it is a China Clay Wagon, but Bachmann have called it an Open Wagon. This is supposed to be an ordinary Open Wagon for the Narrow Gauge range. Myself and I think others are talking about Bachmann releasing a China Clay Wagon, that is for the standard HO range.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: SportyPup on January 26, 2016, 10:14:33 PM
I agree with a lot of people here who want "proper laughing vans."  For some reason, the open wagon troublesome trucks get far too much spotlight in all Thomas merchandising, dating all the way back to Ertl from from my own toddler days.  Even as a very young child, I liked vans more than open wagons, particularly those from the Duck and Diesel trilogy that had large, expressive faces.  They always seemed meaner and more aggressive to me, which in my childlike innocence, made me love them far more.

Laughing vans aren't even something that were phased out of the model series, so they had lots of exposure.  Of course CGI hasn't rendered any with faces yet, but I can easily overlook such a nitpick.

We do have the ventilated van, which is excellent on its own, but it's also faceless and has an odd color scheme--not bad, just odd.  Troublesome truck #3 has a great face but a truly bizarre color choice.  I personally think the sliding door vans would be appealing to kids, because I had one in N scale as a kid and I loved it (and never let anyone else touch it). 

Also, I don't know who mentioned this, but I also agree future troublesome trucks should have meaner faces.  The only ones that aren't smiling are S.C. Ruffey who looks like a blowfish and tt#4 who looks sad and kind of dopey.   I am one of the few who actually likes tt#4 however.

Well, I've gone on long enough.  Just sharing my laughing van fanboy side  ;D


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: AJW98Productions on January 26, 2016, 10:18:07 PM
I guess it is a China Clay Wagon, but Bachmann have called it an Open Wagon. This is supposed to be an ordinary Open Wagon for the Narrow Gauge range. Myself and I think others are talking about Bachmann releasing a China Clay Wagon, that is for the standard HO range.
That's exactly the range ClrwtrMk2 meant though...he's saying that the Open Wagon and Box Vans from these Narrow Gauge wagons should be "scaled up" as it were, so that they are the size of standard gauge wagons, and can be used with the HO engines like Thomas, Percy and Duck. It would be the same tooling, just bigger, big enough to run on HO/OO track, and would be scale accurate with the HO engines.

~Alex


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 27, 2016, 04:11:20 AM
I guess it is a China Clay Wagon, but Bachmann have called it an Open Wagon. This is supposed to be an ordinary Open Wagon for the Narrow Gauge range. Myself and I think others are talking about Bachmann releasing a China Clay Wagon, that is for the standard HO range.
That's exactly the range ClrwtrMk2 meant though...he's saying that the Open Wagon and Box Vans from these Narrow Gauge wagons should be "scaled up" as it were, so that they are the size of standard gauge wagons, and can be used with the HO engines like Thomas, Percy and Duck. It would be the same tooling, just bigger, big enough to run on HO/OO track, and would be scale accurate with the HO engines.

~Alex

This exactly what I want. A HO Mainline Gauge of the China Clay Wagon.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on January 27, 2016, 03:46:15 PM
Even though these are not official Bachmann announcements, I wanted to share these recent announcements from Peco as these add more rolling stock possibilities for the narrow gauge range at the 2016 Toy Fair.

They are doing a slate wagon as well as a side-tipping skip wagon:

(http://www.pecopublications.co.uk/assets/Backgrounds/slate.jpg)

(http://www.pecopublications.co.uk/assets/Backgrounds/skip.jpg)

They don't look bad at all and I think they would be welcome additions in the Thomas range, along with their GVT coaches repainted in Skarloey colors.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 27, 2016, 03:57:17 PM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #199 By Chaz: To be honest with you, if Bachmann where able to get he tooling for these from PECO, Bachmann could easily turn them (With more appropriate paint colours) into Thomas & Friends Wagon's. The detail and the quality look of them look exactly what Bachmann produce, in their Thomas & Friends HO/OO Gauge range.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Griffin on January 28, 2016, 10:10:49 AM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #199 By Chaz: To be honest with you, if Bachmann where able to get he tooling for these from PECO, Bachmann could easily turn them (With more appropriate paint colours) into Thomas & Friends Wagon's. The detail and the quality look of them look exactly what Bachmann produce, in their Thomas & Friends HO/OO Gauge range.
You do understand, Jacob, that you don't need to respond to every single post anyone makes. We all know that Bachmann could "easily turn them (With more appropriate paint colours) into Thomas & Friends Wagon's."; you don't need to say it yourself! That was the whole point of Chaz's post!

This constant repeat of ideas is really becoming quite cumbersome, and while I do respect your opinion and your right to say your ideas, we all know what you think. You don't need to say your thoughts over and over again, expecting to get a different response. If I remember the old saying correctly, that itself is the definition of insanity. So please, just give it a rest, could you? It's really annoying, if we're all being very honest, and I'm sure many other members would agree, although none of us ever say anything to avoid being rude.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 28, 2016, 10:34:00 AM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #199 By Chaz: To be honest with you, if Bachmann where able to get he tooling for these from PECO, Bachmann could easily turn them (With more appropriate paint colours) into Thomas & Friends Wagon's. The detail and the quality look of them look exactly what Bachmann produce, in their Thomas & Friends HO/OO Gauge range.
You do understand, Jacob, that you don't need to respond to every single post anyone makes. We all know that Bachmann could "easily turn them (With more appropriate paint colours) into Thomas & Friends Wagon's."; you don't need to say it yourself! That was the whole point of Chaz's post!

This constant repeat of ideas is really becoming quite cumbersome, and while I do respect your opinion and your right to say your ideas, we all know what you think. You don't need to say your thoughts over and over again, expecting to get a different response. If I remember the old saying correctly, that itself is the definition of insanity. So please, just give it a rest, could you? It's really annoying, if we're all being very honest, and I'm sure many other members would agree, although none of us ever say anything to avoid being rude.

I respond to what most people post because I am interested in what has been posted. I am interested in everything that gets posted in the Thomas & Friends thread.

I am sorry RyanGNR (Now known as Racing James!) and everybody else. I am sorry for wasting everybody's time in this Forum and it is time I leave and make my depart from this Forum for good.

I do not mean to upset people, but it look I have and I am deeply sorry for it. It is time for me to delete my account now. I am upset I get told off like this. :'(


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on January 28, 2016, 11:24:22 AM
If you want to delete your account, then that should be your your own personal call.  Posting that you want to delete your account and getting this worked up over a Thomas forum just comes off as attention-seeking, as well as going completely off topic with what's in hand.

The decision is up to you at the end of the day, but as I said earlier, we really should try to stay on topic.



Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Griffin on January 28, 2016, 03:02:14 PM
If you want to delete your account, then that should be your your own personal call.  Posting that you want to delete your account and getting this worked up over a Thomas forum just comes off as attention-seeking, as well as going completely off topic with what's in hand.

The decision is up to you at the end of the day, but as I said earlier, we really should try to stay on topic.


Absolutely correct. Don't delete your account because of my thoughts and to try to get attention. Now, if you please, back to the topic.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 28, 2016, 03:16:06 PM
If you want to delete your account, then that should be your your own personal call.  Posting that you want to delete your account and getting this worked up over a Thomas forum just comes off as attention-seeking, as well as going completely off topic with what's in hand.
The decision is up to you at the end of the day, but as I said earlier, we really should try to stay on topic.
Absolutely correct. Don't delete your account because of my thoughts and to try to get attention. Now, if you please, back to the topic.

What you said too me upset me though, Racing James! (RyanGNR).

Also Chaz, I am not attention seeking. I am generally starting to get upset by these type of comments I have been told by a number of different Users, which I am not going to name.

I am just trying to engage in conversation by posting on this Forum, not to upset Users. I just feel like I have passed my sell-by-date on this Forum for the amount of times I have been told off. It really upsets me, a lot.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on January 28, 2016, 03:32:13 PM
If posting "It is time for me to delete my account now. I am upset I get told off like this. :'(" isn't seeking for attention, then nothing is.  Same could be said for some of the other countless occasions you've posted similar suggestions on the forum.

I know that you enjoy discussing Thomas products on this forum, and there is nothing wrong with that.  However, I'm under the impression that you're trying way too hard to keep discussion productive on the forum which is ultimately why you've been called out by different users several times.  Again if you want to leave, that choice is up to you.  However, if you wish to stay and participate in discussion, you are certainly welcome to.  But if you do, for the sake of other members on the forum, including me and Ryan, please stay on topic and post in a calm and mature manner.  The Toy fair is coming up in less than three weeks, which ideally is a good time for everyone to be happy and anticipate for the 2016 announcements.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 28, 2016, 03:42:54 PM
If posting "It is time for me to delete my account now. I am upset I get told off like this. :'(" isn't seeking for attention, then nothing is.  Same could be said for some of the other countless occasions you've posted similar suggestions on the forum.

I know that you enjoy discussing Thomas products on this forum, and there is nothing wrong with that.  However, I'm under the impression that you're trying way too hard to keep discussion productive on the forum which is ultimately why you've been called out by different users several times.  Again if you want to leave, that choice is up to you.  However, if you wish to stay and participate in discussion, you are certainly welcome to.  But if you do, for the sake of other members on the forum, including me and Ryan, please stay on topic and post in a calm and mature manner.  The Toy fair is coming up in less than three weeks, which ideally is a good time for everyone to be happy and anticipate for the 2016 announcements.

I am really sorry Chaz and Ryan (Racing James!). I do not mean it for what I have done.

I do post in a calm and mature manner. I always re-read what I have written to make sure it as calm and mature as I can, and alter what I have written, if it does sound a rude or something.

I really do not want to leave, but being told off by several different Users like this gets to me a lot and upsets me as well.

All I am asking for now is, that for you Chaz, Ryan and other Users who I have upset in the past, to forgive me for this mistake and past mistakes. I did not mean any of them and for now on, I am going to try my hardest not to do this again, but please do not get mad with me if I do. I am only a human, like everybody else and I admit I am not perfect, but I do, do my best not to upset anybody on this Forum. All I hope now is that I have been forgiven for this, by everybody?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: thomasj219 on January 28, 2016, 04:11:48 PM
Look. To end this, I would say. Just relax a little bit Jacob, stop taking every post on the forum so literally, seriously and personally, and post a bit more sparingly, only when truly adding something to the discussion rather than just restating what has already been said, wether to show that you understood it or open a discussion about it. People will post when they post  ;)


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 28, 2016, 04:44:11 PM
Look. To end this, I would say. Just relax a little bit Jacob, stop taking every post on the forum so literally, seriously and personally, and post a bit more sparingly, only when truly adding something to the discussion rather than just restating what has already been said, wether to show that you understood it or open a discussion about it. People will post when they post  ;)

Thank you for your help and support, thomasj219. I do take things like this personally though. It really upsets me and it makes me feel like nobody likes me or wants me on the Froum anymore.

How do you recommend to me, how to post more 'sparingly'?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on January 28, 2016, 04:58:39 PM
Jacob, please stop.  You are really blowing this out of proportion by literally dragging this discussion for so long when I have asked you nicely twice already to move on and go back on topic.  This is supposed to be a thread where we talk about 2016 products/predictions and you are making things difficult and awkward for everyone by not moving on like I asked you to earlier.

Back on topic.

What did everybody think of the wagons that Peco just announced?  Do you think we will get these or the coaches this year for the Thomas range?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Griffin on January 28, 2016, 05:06:51 PM
If the Blue Mountain Quarry theme is continued, I think both have a very good chance, excluding the fact that these were just released and Bachmann has probably had their announcements keyed up for a while... :P


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: sean1994rail on January 28, 2016, 05:54:36 PM
And a slate load would be a bonus!


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: SportyPup on January 28, 2016, 06:48:14 PM
At this point, anything we get for NG will be welcomed by myself, since there's so many options and it's nearly impossible to go wrong.  I think the slate and tipper wagons would be great, but I hope the slate wagon would get a little more paint... I'm no good at painting model trains :/

Does anyone think we'll get a breakdown train for HO, or even Rocky?  I know it's been said before, but other than more engines, emergency/rescue rolling stock is the only thing that hasn't been done.

I kind of think Winston and the Ice Cream Wagon are all we'll get for G Scale this year. But who knows... Maybe sound chipped Thomas??


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 28, 2016, 06:56:21 PM
At this point, anything we get for NG will be welcomed by myself, since there's so many options and it's nearly impossible to go wrong.  I think the slate and tipper wagons would be great, but I hope the slate wagon would get a little more paint... I'm no good at painting model trains :/

Does anyone think we'll get a breakdown train for HO, or even Rocky?  I know it's been said before, but other than more engines, emergency/rescue rolling stock is the only thing that hasn't been done.

I kind of think Winston and the Ice Cream Wagon are all we'll get for G Scale this year. But who knows... Maybe sound chipped Thomas??

That is a good point actually. Bachmann have never released a Breakdown Crane in the Thomas & Friends HO/OO Gauge range. This would be a great addition to this range, and something it needs. I already own x3 Hornby Thomas & Friends Breakdown Crane's; x1 R306 from 1989, x1 R9216 from 2006 and x1 R9691 from 2011, but one from Bachmann would be nice and it will be interesting to see if it will look like. I hope Rocky gets released by either manufactures, as then that will round my collection of x3 standard Breakdown Crane's off nicely.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Metal on January 28, 2016, 11:26:51 PM
If Peco is making new rolling stock tooling.

Since there's Slate Wagons and Tipper Wagons.
I was thinking if they would make tooling for Talyllyn Railway Coaches
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2622/4119993522_8b1dd1a741.jpg)

They could be repainted into the Skarloey Railway Coaches, I personally like the blue ones.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on January 29, 2016, 05:27:52 AM
If Peco is making new rolling stock tooling.

Since there's Slate Wagons and Tipper Wagons.
I was thinking if they would make tooling for Talyllyn Railway Coaches
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2622/4119993522_8b1dd1a741.jpg)

They could be repainted into the Skarloey Railway Coaches, I personally like the blue ones.

I hope these Talyllyn Railway Coaches get released. I really want the Narrow Gauge Coaches; Especially the Red and Blue ones.

Then, Bachmann need to produce a Red and second Blue Brake Van that match the colours of the Coaches they release, if they do release them, which I hope they do!


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Griffin on January 29, 2016, 10:26:48 AM
At this point, anything we get for NG will be welcomed by myself, since there's so many options and it's nearly impossible to go wrong.  I think the slate and tipper wagons would be great, but I hope the slate wagon would get a little more paint... I'm no good at painting model trains :/

Does anyone think we'll get a breakdown train for HO, or even Rocky?  I know it's been said before, but other than more engines, emergency/rescue rolling stock is the only thing that hasn't been done.

I kind of think Winston and the Ice Cream Wagon are all we'll get for G Scale this year. But who knows... Maybe sound chipped Thomas??
This has been an idea I've had in my head for a while. I would simply LOVE an HO Scale Rocky- and who knows, they could make him functional! Trackmaster did it '08 with Rocky to the Rescue (a definite on my list of discontinued Thomas toys to get!!)


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Akodenski on February 01, 2016, 09:25:53 PM
I just joined the forum so here is my wish list for Bachman Thomas in 2016:
                     HO Scale:
                     Engines:
Daisy
Whiff
                     Rolling stock:

Flatbed with pipes on it.
Hector

                      Non-rail characters:
Jack please!!!

                      Figures:
The Earl of Sodor

                      Resign Scenery:
Wellsworth station
The airport
The Narrow Gauge Depot
The Minature Railway Depot

                     I don't buy large scale so here is my wish list for the narrow gauge range:
                     Engines:
Rheneas
Peter Sam
                      Rolling stock:
Narrow Gauge coaches (Blue)
Narrow Gauge coaches (Red)
Slate Wagon
Narrow Gauge brakevan

                            Narrow Gauge sets:
Skarloey's slate run (as previously mentioned) with Skarloey,an open wagon,a slate wagon, a Blue Mountain Quarry truck,a brown narrow gauge caboose,a mini stone cutting house with a Blue Mountain Quarry symbol on it,a mini Crovan's gate station,a controller,and an oval of N scale track

                           Minature Railway Engines:
Mike
Rex

                          Miniature Railway Rolling stock
Ballast hopper
Red open wagon
Minature Railway passenger car

  


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 02, 2016, 04:56:39 AM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #218 By Akodenski: It's good to read a post from another new Member. Welcome abroad, Akodenski!

Yes, I agree that Whiff is an excellent idea. An Engine with glasses on his face and scruffy livery covered in rubbish would bring great playability and will be a different  addition to one's layout! An Open Wagon with a Rubbish Load (Something similar to the Coal Wagon with Load product, just with a rubbish load rather than a coal one).

Rocky would be a good release as well, including the Flatbed with Pipe Load, as I missed and never was able to purchase the Flat Car with Paint Drums.

I cannot see three Narrow Gauge Locomotives being released in one year, not even two, but I do think we will get Rheneas.

I am hoping for the Red and Blue Coaches as well, but I think we only might get one set this year (That is if they get released of course!).

Brake Van's are needed. Grey or Brown for the Freight Rolling Stock. A Red Brake Van will be needed for the Red Coaches and a Blue Brake Van for the Blue Coaches.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Griffin on February 02, 2016, 12:02:11 PM

Brake Van's are needed. Grey or Brown for the Freight Rolling Stock. A Red Brake Van will be needed for the Red Coaches and a Blue Brake Van for the Blue Coaches.

Has the Narrow Gauge show ever had breakvans?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 02, 2016, 12:21:49 PM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #220 By Racing James!: Yes, there has been Brake Van's. They have been Red and Blue one's, for the Coaches or course and Grey and Brown Brake Van's for Narrow Gauge Passenger Trains. Take a look here: http://ttte.wikia.com/wiki/Other_Skarloey_Railway_Rolling_Stock/.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Griffin on February 02, 2016, 01:54:37 PM
Oh. Ok. I didn't know they were breakvans  ::)


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: TTTEfan1992 on February 02, 2016, 02:16:08 PM
Chaz, I saw that you said on this thread that we'll all find out next week or (next weekend) what's been announced this year. You must have deleted that post. What do you mean next week? Which would be even better than next weekend. I thought you said that the catalogs are due to be released between February 13-16, 2016. Will we all be able to find out about the announcements and the revealed products next week (before next weekend)?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 02, 2016, 02:18:29 PM
^^ Above 2 Replies - @Reply #222 By Racing James!: Yes, the Narrow Gauge Brake Van's have appeared since Series 4 in the TV Series. I would also like Bachmann to release the D.Fusit Gunpowder Wagon's as well in the Narrow Gauge range.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on February 02, 2016, 02:41:27 PM
TTTEfan1992, I don't recall ever saying that, or deleting any post for that matter.  The Toy fair is next weekend from the 13-16th and we may find out the Friday before the Toy Fair since a moderator would sometimes post announcements around that time.  Catalogs are usually posted around that time or sometime after.  I would suggest waiting paitently until then, especially since the Toy Fair is less than two weeks away... and still counting down!

To quote the Bach-man: "Anticipate!"


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: TTTEfan1992 on February 02, 2016, 06:12:07 PM
How much time is it posted after it's released (if it is after it's released)?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Griffin on February 02, 2016, 06:14:41 PM
Last year I think it was the day after or a few days after...


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 02, 2016, 06:36:50 PM
If I lived in the USA, I would go to the Toy Fair in a shot! Sadly, living in the UK, means I cannot!

Last year, I am pretty sure how learnt about the new releases was by downloading a PDF of last year's Catalogue on my iPad! Of course, now I have the advantage of this Forum, which is much better!

I am just under 100% sure we will get Rheneas, but I am not sure what else. I would love the Narrow Gauge Coaches, particularly the red ones, but I feeling that won't happen. I am not sure what to expect in the standard HO Thomas & Friends range. I would like a different coloured Utility Wagon, like last year we had the Green one (Labelled as a Mail Car).


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: SportyPup on February 02, 2016, 06:52:38 PM

I am just under 100% sure we will get Rheneas, but I am not sure what else. I would love the Narrow Gauge Coaches, particularly the red ones, but I feeling that won't happen. I am not sure what to expect in the standard HO Thomas & Friends range. I would like a different coloured Utility Wagon, like last year we had the Green one (Labelled as a Mail Car).

If we don't get Rheneas I will be genuinely surprised!!

I'm partially expecting both HO and G Scales to be light on the releases, since (hopefully) narrow gauge will be a priority.  If all we get are Oliver and Toad and Winston and the Ice Cream Van, I'll be happy for those ranges.

Any new ideas on new Resin Buildings?  I think they're still proving to be popular too!


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 02, 2016, 07:04:38 PM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #229 By SportyPup: I will be generally surprised if we don't get Rheneas as well.

We should get Oliver and Toad this year, but you never know; They could be delayed until 2017. Manufacturing in new model railway products always take a long time!

As for the Resin Building's, I am not sure. I have not in thought about buying any of these yet! I think I will get the Round Water Tower. Everything else looks too big for my layout and I don't have space on it for any of them anyway! I think I can squeeze a Round Water Tower in, and that will be it!


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Griffin on February 02, 2016, 08:18:16 PM
I would love the Narrow Gauge Coaches, particularly the red ones, but I feeling that won't happen.

I have a feeling it will; Bachmann needs to develop the narrow gauge line beyond just freight cars- I think coaches are pretty much inevitable.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 02, 2016, 08:25:47 PM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #231 By Racing James!: Yes, Bachmann do need to build-up the Narrow Gauge range, to build up it's popularity. Only 4 product's have been released so far. Rheneas should be released (Fingers crossed!), with Coaches and Brake Van's.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Akodenski on February 02, 2016, 10:03:52 PM
I'm just curious. Does anyone think Bachman should release Jack next year for a non-rail character? And do you also think the Aralesdale railway should be realesed in a year or two?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: MeganekkoFury1126 on February 03, 2016, 12:09:06 AM
While maybe not this year, I personally think Jack isn't too far out of being likely. I mean, he has gotten some screen time recently in Sodor's Legend of the Lost Treasure, and kids would probably enjoy having a construction machine to 'play' with on their miniature railway.

Rex, Bert and Mike though...that's really asking for a lot too soon. The Skarloey engines have just started being produced, and we have to wait to see if there really is even a possibility of even making those engines, which are even smaller than the Skarloey engines.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 03, 2016, 07:55:57 AM
^^ Above 2 Replies - @Reply #233 By Akodenski and ^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #234 By MeganekkoFury1126: I would love to see Bachmann to produce Jack and I think Alfie has a good possibility of entering production like Jack does. I have not thought about these before, but it's a good idea!

What about Bachmann producing Bulgy?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Akodenski on February 03, 2016, 08:02:37 AM
I personally think that we could get Trevor and Bulgy next year and get Jack this year. And I think the Aralsdale engines could be released in 3 or 4 years when Bachman has got all the main characters down for the Skarloey railway.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 03, 2016, 08:20:48 AM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #236 By Akodenski: Yes, I think I hope we will get Bulgy, Trevor, Jack and Alfie soon. The last vehicle Bachmann was released was Jeremy the Jet, which was released in 2014, I do believe? So we are over due another vehicle by Bachmann.

I cannot see the Aralsdale Engines getting released yet, not in Model Railway form in 3 or 4 year's time. They have only just appeared in the TV Series, so they have yet to build up their popularity. I would say Stepney or even Daisy and Bo-Co has a better chance off getting released by Bachamann, rather then the Aralsdale Engines.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on February 03, 2016, 03:05:57 PM
If we were to get another non-rail character, I could see it either being Jack or Bulgy.  Considering how rare it is for Bachmann to announce them though as well as the negative reception to Jeremy's announcement, I think it will be a while since we get another non-rail character.

Considering how the Skarloey railway started last year and how barely anyone models HOz or anything of the equivalent, I don't see the small railway engines happening for a long time.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Griffin on February 03, 2016, 03:48:15 PM
I would guess Jack, no doubt. When did we last see Bulgy?  ::)


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 03, 2016, 04:00:03 PM
^^ Above 2 Replies - @Reply #238 By Chaz: I agree with you there on that one Chaz, as Bachmann only last year have just launched the Narrow Gauge range, so it is far too early for Bachmann to launch another gauge, in their Thomas & Friends range.

^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #239 By Racing James!: I can see what you are saying there, but we have not seen Jeremy the Jet for a long time, but Bachmann still released him. You never know what could be around the corner and hidden up Bachmann's sleeve until the Toy Fair next week! I am sure not many people expected Bachmann to announce Jeremy, but they still did!


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: BassTbone on February 03, 2016, 09:51:10 PM
Honestly, I see one, maybe two new engines this year.  Bachmann had a big Thomas year last year.  I wouldn't expect too much.

HOz would be way too fiddly.  I don't see that scale being made.  Seeing as the range is generally for children, they re-railing process would simply be a headache. 



Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 04, 2016, 04:02:34 AM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #241 By BassTbone: I would not say last year's range was big, but it was too big that, seeing as Oliver and Toad have not been released yet, and will not be, it seems for 2 months.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Shawn on February 04, 2016, 12:48:29 PM
I wondor how long it's gonna be before Bachmann starts retiring some engines....Salty has already become train set exclusive I do believe?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on February 04, 2016, 01:04:52 PM
Salty so far is the only engine that has been discontinued so far, with the exception of his set still being available.  

If I had to take a guess at which engines would be discontinued next, my money is on Spencer or 'Arry and Bert.  These would make the most sense to me because Spencer is currently the most expensive locomotive in the range.  Even though he is still selling reasonably well, I think considering the fact that prices go up every year I would imagine that Bachmann would be more willing to drop him from their range as opposed to one of the main characters like Gordon or Henry.  However, 'Arry and Bert make more sense to me than Spencer because both of them combined had very small sales, (at least from what I've seen/heard), and they aren't exactly popular characters on the show with both old and young fans compared to the likes of Duck, Diesel, or even Oliver.  I can also see Paxton having better sales than 'Arry and Bert too.  


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: TTTEfan1992 on February 04, 2016, 01:08:32 PM
Who said anything about that Bachmann is going to discontinue characters this year?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on February 04, 2016, 01:09:17 PM
No one said anything, it is only speculation.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Rickenbacker 325 on February 04, 2016, 02:17:58 PM
Not trying to beat a dead horse here, but I would like to give my predictions for the toy fair.

HO scale:
Paxton, I feel would be a not so obvious choice but then again would be a smart choice seeing that there would be no new tooling having to be made except for the face. My second cousin loves him and is his favorite 'new' engine in the show. I personally like him this season especially.
Stanley/Rosie, This one is a toss up for me. They have both been seen as background characters as of late but I did hear that Stanley will be having a new voice actor and more lines in season 20. Rosie would also be a good choice as it would be the 3rd female engine brought in to the range.
For rolling stock, ehhh. Let this one be a surprise. TT#5, maybe...

G scale:
Edward, seeing that they can't really go much bigger than Emily, Edward would be the next best choice. He would go around tight corners no problem and I think would look great with a CGI face. But seeing that even Winson was a surprise last year, I guess anything can happen!
Mavis, I know there will be only one engine announced but Mavis would be a good choice with all of the open wagons they have come out with.
Rolling stock wise I would love to see a flat car of some type, whether it be like the paint car or the other smaller one(cant remember the name of it). A friend of mine would love to see the Mail Vans for Percy to pull.

Narrow Gauge:
I would say slate trucks and some type of break van. I am not seeing a new engine in the range until next year honestly.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: sean1994rail on February 04, 2016, 02:18:37 PM
Towerhobbies also said discontinued on the lighthouse and windmill. Sometimes, discontinued from them means the shops not taking any stock of them anymore.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 04, 2016, 02:20:42 PM
^^^^^^ Above 6 Replies - @Reply #243 By Shawn and ^^^^^ Above 5 Replies - @Reply #244 By Chaz: This is a good point about Bachmann Thomas & Friends Locomotives being discontinued. Salty has already been half discontinued (I mean in the way of being sold separately, but the Salty's Dockside Delivery Train Set is still in production), so maybe this shows that others may have the same treatment, sadly. I think maybe Mavis might get discontinued next.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: sean1994rail on February 04, 2016, 02:24:32 PM
Salty so far is the only engine that has been discontinued so far, with the exception of his set still being available.  

If I had to take a guess at which engines would be discontinued next, my money is on Spencer or 'Arry and Bert.  These would make the most sense to me because Spencer is currently the most expensive locomotive in the range.  Even though he is still selling reasonably well, I think considering the fact that prices go up every year I would imagine that Bachmann would be more willing to drop him from their range as opposed to one of the main characters like Gordon or Henry.  However, 'Arry and Bert make more sense to me than Spencer because both of them combined had very small sales, (at least from what I've seen/heard), and they aren't exactly popular characters on the show with both old and young fans compared to the likes of Duck, Diesel, or even Oliver.  I can also see Paxton having better sales than 'Arry and Bert too.  
I agree, Chaz on Arry and Bert being discontinued next. Spencer on the other hand is still a popular character.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 04, 2016, 02:35:14 PM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #250 By sean1994rail: What is your reason for 'Arry and Bert being discontinued already? They where only released 2 year's ago, in 2014. Surely they are still too new, to be discontinued?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: sean1994rail on February 04, 2016, 02:41:01 PM
My speculation at the moment.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: SportyPup on February 04, 2016, 03:10:47 PM
I have been a loyal Towerhobies customer for years, and I have noticed time and time again that they stop carrying merchandise before the manufacterer stops producing it.  It is true that Mavis, Ben (but not Bill), the cargo car, raspberry and cream tankers (in HO) have been discontinued, but I don't fear that this means bad news to come.  I'm just guessing that Towerhobbies cuts out merchandise that isn't popular on its own.  G Scale Percy, James, Emily and even Toby were discontinued there, yet Bachmann is still makes a profit off of them all! (I hope) Again, this is all speculation, but I also wanted to share some of this casual "marketing research" I've done.

Arry and Bert should be discontinued before Mavis or Spencer IMO., simply based on sales I've observed... I'm no marketing expert though!


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 04, 2016, 03:20:28 PM
^^ Above 2 Replies - @Reply #252 By sean1994rail: Ah OK, then. I do not think though, that it will be wise for Bachmann to discontinue 'Arry and Bert at this stage. They are still too new.

^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #253 By SportyPup: I do not think that a shop discontinues a product. It sounds too me tht they stop selling it, as they probably had the product in for a while. I own x3 Cargo Car's and this is the amount of them I have ever wanted. Since I have had my account with the only supplier of the Bachmann Thomas & Friends HO range, called The Diesel Works, I emailed the guy around May last year about them, and he does not order them anymore as they do not sell often enough. He told me that in the past, he had a box full of them, and it took ages for the, to sell. Kindly though, he placed an order of 3 of them, just for me and they arrived with the rest of his order to sell on his website in September 2015.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on February 04, 2016, 03:56:35 PM
Going to what both Jacob and SportyPup both said, that is exactly why I don't see 'Arry and Bert sticking around for much longer.  Both might still be fairly new models, but both of them lack popularity as well as sales.  One of the employees at one of three stores I go to said they would only carry the characters they know that people will buy.  Otherwise they wouldn't be making money if the models are just hanging at the store with no buyers.  There isn't that much of a strong following with both of them as far as characters go, and Lionel and Hornby's 'Arry and Bert models weren't popular sellers either.  It goes without saying, that it's understandable why different ranges made them because the Diesel tooling was there and they could make a profit off of the collectors who would buy them, so it wouldn't be that much of a loss.  If they made someone like Rosie or Stanley on the other hand who are both new toolings yet would have weak sales potential going for them, then that would ultimately hurt their production team more than 'Arry and Bert would since it would cost Bachmann more money to make new toolings.  Fortunately, if they were to do Paxton I would be more confident in his sales because he's a popular character with both older and younger fans as well as appearing more often in the show now.  The fact that the tooling is there from Diesel also helps them even more. 

I'm also confident that we will get another engine this year in narrow gauge since Skarloey made it on time this year, whereas Oliver and Winston haven't even been out yet, let alone have a picture. 


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 04, 2016, 04:19:57 PM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #255 By Chaz: That is true. Bachmann would obviously release models using tooling's they already have, like 'Arry and Bert's tooling is from Devious Diesel. I do not think 'Arry and Bert are terribly popular engines anyway!

I would like Rosie and Stanley to be released though. They are good characters and very interesting.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: TTTEfan1992 on February 04, 2016, 05:42:12 PM
Did you say Oliver and Winston have an actual model picture right now?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 04, 2016, 05:46:44 PM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #257 By TTTEfan1992: No, Chaz did not say that. The images of Oliver, Toad and Winston have not been released yet. Chaz was just mentioning that the images have not been released yet.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: SportyPup on February 04, 2016, 06:22:36 PM
Speaking of characters that have a lot of exposure, such as Paxton, how much exposure have Arry and Bert even received on the show?  I love them as characters as well as their unique color schemes, but they honestly seem like a pair of characters that the writers loved for a couple years and then either forgot about or never had room to fit them in.  Characters such as Arthur, Murdoch, Molly and so on (I'm not debating whether they are good characters, just that they were shafted).  The few appearances Arry and Bert have had after their introduction have usually seemed really shoehorned in, like spending 30 seconds laughing at Neville in season 9 and spending another 30 seconds at the steam works with Diesel.  'Tis a shame, but true.

Also, just wondering, but how often have the Ice Cream Wagons appeared?  I've only seen them myself in Too Hot for Thomas, which is over a decade old.  I guess familiarity isn't as big of an issue with rolling stock since the tooling is cheaper, leading to unpredictable items like TT 3, 4, and even the paint drum flatbed.

It all kind of goes back to what some people are saying about making characters such as Daisy or the small railway engines--while they may receive a ton of airtime in the future, right now they're really only familiar with longterm fans.  Even then, some newer characters like Ryan might get shafted too…  Sadly :(


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 04, 2016, 06:50:11 PM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #259 By SportyPup: Yes, 'Arry and Bert are good, but with them appearing so little in the TV Series, they never stood a chance, and this could be to do with Hornby's and Bachmann's low sales compared to other Locomotives in their range's of 'Arry and Bert. The reason their sales could have been so low, as people didn't know what to do with 'Arry and Bert if they owned them, as in recent year's, you see them randomly in cameo shots, or laughing at the other Engine's, as SportyPup mentioned.

As for the Ice Cream Van's they appeared in a very few amount of Episode's. I imagine Bachmann and Hornby released these as they knew they would release well, because it like a good recognised Wagon, rather than something plain and dirty, like a Coal Truck. It's the same story with the Cream Tanker's, Raspberry Syrup Tanker's and Circus Wagon's. They are clean and 'special' train's that are different.

Also, speaking of the Circus Wagon's, Hornby did release 9 Circus Van's, a Circus Cattle Wagon and 2 Circus Flatbed's released in 2005 for the 60th Anniversary of Thomas & Friends. Hornby then released 3 Circus Tent's and the Circus Stalls in 2006 to correspond with the Circus Wagon's they released the year before. These are very nice and I own all of them and I love them. I would like Bachmann to release the Circus Wagon's and too see what Bachmann's Circus Wagon's would look like.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Titanic5972 on February 04, 2016, 11:20:07 PM
I can't see Bachmann releasing Rosie or Stanley yet. There are far more important locos that are still not available from the original series. Boco and Daisy for a start.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on February 04, 2016, 11:59:30 PM
It is a lot cheaper and easier on Bachmann's part to produce rolling stock as most their recent ones have been repaints from Mainline or from other existing toolings they have access to.  With locomotives, they cost a lot more money to produce and if the sales are not strong with a new locomotive tooling, it hurts their marketing team a lot more because there is a lot more time and money invested in production of a locomotive than a piece of rolling stock.  That right there is the biggest reason why I don't think Rosie or Stanley would be a good idea, because sales are important for Bachmann and neither of these two would last in the long run.  I would even go as far as to bet on Hiro appearing before those two, despite being a larger and more expensive locomotive to produce, as the popularity and sales for the character are there which makes him seem like a more natural fit from Bachmann than those two.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 05, 2016, 05:34:01 AM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #263 By Chaz: Yes, Hiro would be nice as well, seeing the a different Locomotive form Japan would change a layout. I still would like Rosie and Stanley. In fact, I also want Arthur, Molly and Charlie to be released too! I think maybe Bachmann need to release more Diesel Locomotives, as only 5 have been released.

What does everybody think the chances of Bachmann releasing Diesel 10?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: DinoNTrains on February 05, 2016, 05:40:46 PM
Even though it would be awesome to have Diesel 10 in Bachmann's range, I doubt he'll be made mostly because of Pinchy. Pinchy would be an issue because it might make Diesel 10 too tall to fit through tunnels, into shed stalls, etc. (Not to mention that the TTTE Wikia says Pinchy is an illegal modification, anyway).


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 05, 2016, 06:30:21 PM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #264 By DinoNTrains: I know that Diesel 10 would be difficult to produce because of Pinchy, but he would be really cool to own. I do not why Pinchy would be illegal though. What makes you say this?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: DinoNTrains on February 05, 2016, 07:43:13 PM
It's because it makes him too tall for the British loading gauge


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 05, 2016, 07:51:11 PM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #266 By DinoNTrains: Surely Bachmann can produce a new tooling of the BR Class 42 'Warship' Locomotive in HO Gauge to produce Diesel 10 out of and I do not expect Pinchy to be a working piece. Just a bit of plastic stuck on top, that looks like a mechanical arm of some sort and a claw will do perfectly!


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on February 05, 2016, 08:16:01 PM
The problem I see with Diesel 10 is that he's a very gimmicky character much like Harvey or Marion which would in no doubt make him an expensive model to produce.  I also agree with DinoNTrains that this would also have an effect on different accessories on layouts such as tunnels, bridges or sheds.  Although he's a popular character I can't see Bachmann making him anytime soon.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 05, 2016, 08:32:21 PM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #268 By Chaz: If we think about it though, OO Gauge and HO Gauge are not massively tall gauges, and I find there is some gap between the top of the Locomotive and the bridge, tunnel or shed. HO Gauge is slightly less tall than OO Gauge, so a HO Gauge Diesel 10 may just fit underneath OO Gauge tunnels or sheds, or through bridges; Providing that Pinchy is not too tall!

I do not have problems of tunnels, bridges or sheds too worry about my layout, as I do not have these on my layout, as my layout is to small to accommodate this kind of detail :(. I do think though that if Bachmann did release Diesel 10, he would be popular and make Bachmann a lot of money!


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Metal on February 05, 2016, 09:12:03 PM
With these toy gimmick characters; Diesel 10, Harvey, Belle, Marion. The other problem is the eye mechanism being the major obstruction. Also considering their designs, I don't think they would be very robust as Bachmann models.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 06, 2016, 05:55:46 AM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #270 By Metal: In what way do you mean that Diesel 10, Harvey, Belle and Marion are toy gimmick characters?

I also do not care for the eye moving mechanisms much, so if these characters where released without it, it would not bother me.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: TTTE1945 on February 06, 2016, 09:42:30 AM
Does anyone know when Bachmann is announcing the new products for 2016?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Akodenski on February 06, 2016, 10:58:38 AM
 I don't know when but does anyone believe Stanley should be made next. Possibly along side Rosie.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 06, 2016, 12:02:13 PM
^^ Above 2 Replies - @Reply #272 By TTTE1945: I have heard that Bachmann will be releasing the new releases at the Toy Fair in New York, something like next week.

^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #273 By Akodenski: I would be really happy if Rosie or Stanley are included in this year's releases. I really want them. I hoping for Rheneas as well this year.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on February 06, 2016, 02:35:47 PM
I honestly don't understand the obsession behind Rosie or Stanley in the Thomas fanbase.  The two of them are blank slates, and there is nothing really that spectacular about either of them that makes them stand out, apart from their designs which is what makes them popular in the toy department.  Their roles have been minimal on the show because the writers don't have a lot they can draw back on for them, so I would be shocked if either of them were to get anything more than their background usage or a speaking role at this point.

Bachmann cares more about characters that can give them strong sales and these two don't feel like big hits that they would be looking for.  I would think characters like Paxton or Daisy would make more sense because they have a stronger demand and Daisy fits the classic character trend in CGI, and Paxton would be a lot easier for Bachmann to make.  I think some people on this forum are either blind to to the fact that there is nothing in Rosie or Stanley's "potential", or they choose to be simply because of the following both of these two have in the fandom.  The two may have their place in toy ranges like wooden railway or take n play, but I honestly don't see a place for them in Bachmann.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: sean1994rail on February 06, 2016, 02:46:57 PM
I agree. I also thought Porter and Hiro could be sales worthy. Both are strong characters and Bachmann has similar tank engine toolings for Porter. Hiro would be great for another tender engine in the range.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Metal on February 06, 2016, 02:55:25 PM
Follow up on my last post...
What I mean by toy gimmicks are characters that are more driven by quirky designs with active contraptions as an attempt to give them appeal.
As in;
Diesel 10-His claw
Harvey-An engine with a crane
Belle-Her fire hoses
Marion-A steam shovel that swings her bucket around as if she's making human hand gestures.

As Bachmann models, I feel that their contraptions would be too flimsy to move around. Even for an older fan like myself.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: DinoNTrains on February 06, 2016, 03:01:39 PM
I myself honestly would love to see Daisy for the new announcements, mostly because it would add another diesel and another female engine to the range. Plus, she would be the first large diesel for Bachmann.

But, in the end, I'm sure there may be some surprises in store for us this year. (Winston's announcement last year, anyone? ;) )


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 06, 2016, 03:07:29 PM
^^^^ Above 4 Replies - @Reply #275 By Chaz: Rosie and Stanley are models of a Locomotives I like, and I like there liveries and personalities, the TV Series has given them. I could make a several stories if I owned them, on my Island of Sodor (My layout)!

Daisy would also be a good release as well.

^^^ Above 3 Replies - @Reply #276 By sean199rail: I don't know why I forget about Hiro! I really want a model railway version of him as well, but I have a feeling if Bachmann would release him, he would be about the same price as Bachmann Spencer.

^^ Above 2 Replies - @Reply #277 By Metal: Ah, I see what you mean by toy gimmick toy characters, but these for Engines would be great additions to Bachmann's range. Their 'contraptions' do not have to be flimsy or even move around. I would be happy if they attached pieces of plastic stuck on the bodyshell. I do not expect them to move around.

^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #278 By DinoNTrains: I agree about all of that with Daisy and I hope to see a HO Gauge Winston, despite how difficult it would be too produce in this gauge.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: TTTE1945 on February 06, 2016, 03:21:26 PM
The only engines I want this year for HD scale are Stepney and Daisy.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 06, 2016, 03:24:50 PM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #280 By TTTE1945: I do believe we will get Stepney announced this year as well. We had the announcement of Oliver last year, and I have a feeling Stepney will be joining the fleet next!


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: TTTE1945 on February 06, 2016, 07:47:35 PM
Good. Stepney is long overdue. I really hope Oliver and Toad are modeled after their series 3 appearances. For rolling stock I hope they reintroduce some cars as well as make some new ones.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 06, 2016, 07:58:40 PM
What do other User's think of Bachmann releasing more Ventilated Van's? I would like Bachmann to release more plain ones, like the blue one in different colours. I think a green one would be nice.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: AJW98Productions on February 07, 2016, 01:38:10 AM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #268 By Chaz: If we think about it though, OO Gauge and HO Gauge are not massively tall gauges, and I find there is some gap between the top of the Locomotive and the bridge, tunnel or shed. HO Gauge is slightly less tall than OO Gauge, so a HO Gauge Diesel 10 may just fit underneath OO Gauge tunnels or sheds, or through bridges; Providing that Pinchy is not too tall!

I do not have problems of tunnels, bridges or sheds too worry about my layout, as I do not have these on my layout, as my layout is to small to accommodate this kind of detail :(. I do think though that if Bachmann did release Diesel 10, he would be popular and make Bachmann a lot of money!
I disagree, because of the design of such a great lumbering claw on top of the character's head, that's going to drive up production costs, straight off the bat; infinitely more so if it moves, which I believe children could easily get bored with if it didn't. But then I imagine it would be complex to mount onto the body of Diesel 10, and would be very easily breakable. Then there's the problem with the claw throwing him off gauge, badly. This is a non-issue for some people, yes. But to those who have layouts with HO/OO bridges (even footbridges over platforms would be an issue!) and tunnels, these people whom collect Bachmann products, are faced with a problem, it is inconvenient to purchase this engine that can barely be used on their layout. If Bachmann did make such a decision, I cannot describe how daft I think it would be, but for comparisons sake, here is a sports metaphor:
It's like acquiring the soccer ball during your game (or football if you prefer), then turning around, and kicking it into your own goal, y'know...the one you're supposed to defend. I think, Diesel 10 would have the opposite effect, and can only lose Bachmann inordinate sums of money for little success in return. Also, there is such little difference between the gauges of HO and OO, I doubt a HO Diesel 10 could even fit under a OO bridge or tunnel (same applies to Harvey, but let's keep him out of this for now).

I honestly don't understand the obsession behind Rosie or Stanley in the Thomas fanbase.  The two of them are blank slates, and there is nothing really that spectacular about either of them that makes them stand out, apart from their designs which is what makes them popular in the toy department.
The obsession with these two characters, from my perspective is that the obsession can only created out of their unique designs and liveries, Stanley I guess had an interesting enough introduction (despite my personal thoughts on "The Great Discovery", I can't deny that it was interesting). Personally, I don't care about Rosie as a character, but I would like a model, so I guess the marketing team has struck again. But I recognise that as a model, she'll never be released by Bachmann for the foreseeable future, because...
Their [Rosie and Stanley's] roles have been minimal on the show because the writers don't have a lot they can draw back on for them, so I would be shocked if either of them were to get anything more than their background usage or a speaking role at this point.

Bachmann cares more about characters that can give them strong sales and these two don't feel like big hits that they would be looking for.  I would think characters like Paxton or Daisy would make more sense because they have a stronger demand and Daisy fits the classic character trend in CGI, and Paxton would be a lot easier for Bachmann to make.  I think some people on this forum are either blind to to the fact that there is nothing in Rosie or Stanley's "potential", or they choose to be simply because of the following both of these two have in the fandom.  The two may have their place in toy ranges like wooden railway or take n play, but I honestly don't see a place for them in Bachmann.
I can't put that any better than Chaz already has. They are just blank slates of characters with little to no personality, but endlessly marketable designs and unique liveries.

Each is slightly different in their obvious marketable pandering, but there is a common issue. The issue here is that these 2 characters suffer from...Season 9-16 (and the specials between) syndrome, having unique designs and liveries, but little to no personality, existing purely to sell toys, and that's easy enough to tell, they have as much character than the Horrid Lorries from Season 5! And the Horrid Lorries all had the same basic personality, all 3 of them, and only appeared in their one episode, and never again, an episode that, once opening and ending credits are taken out of the picture, lasts 4 and a half minutes! Just 4 and a half minutes versus an entire special? And a few episodes that lasted...for over 6 minutes even without credits.

The problem with these characters, is that they aren't popular enough among the older fanbase to sell well in HO/OO, which, by numbers, has a larger older fanbase than the likes of say....Trackmaster and Wooden Railway. This becomes a problem, in that they don't appeal highly enough to the mature fanbase, but as HO/OO models, not toys, but models, means that it would be a high cost for parents to buy for their kids anyway, and let's face it, kids collecting the range are probably going to focus more on the main character by default, there will be exceptions, but really these two characters only exist to sell toys in other ranges, this doesn't translate across to HO/OO well, as these are models, not toys, they would be expensive to produce and wouldn't win over the hearts and minds of either younger or older demographic enough to be a viable investment for Bachmann, better than the likes of some other characters, but I'd say that a large engine like Hiro has a better chance, because (despite his large design creating high manufacturing costs), he has more of a following in both demographics Bachmann needs to appeal to. Not to mention he actually has more personality than those 2 blatant marketing scams disguised as characters that I mentioned earlier. These 2 characters need a drastic personality turn around and a lot of screentime for these issues to be fixed, in my opinion.

And finally, Harvey, Diesel 10, Rosie, Stanley, Marion and Belle, are, when it comes down to it; very gimmicking, for the sake of selling toys. But as we know, toys does not translate to models, Bachmann would financially bankrupt themselves if they tried to mimic Leaning Curve's release schedule and range.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand, next year for HO, I don't know what to expect. Maybe a new wagon or two, but that would be all I'm expecting, along with Oliver and Toad. For Large Scale, I only expect Winston. For Narrow Gauge: I expect Rheneas as our next engine, for rolling stock I don't know entirely what to expect, but I'm hoping for the Brown Brakevan, a Blue Brakevan (which is just a repaint of the brown one, so...twins philosophy I guess), and the Blue and White Coaches, but again, those are my hopes, not what I entirely predict, I don't entirely know what to expect.

~Alex


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 07, 2016, 04:52:33 AM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #284 By AJW98Productions: Pinchy won't make the cost of Diesel 10 sky high. All they need too do, is make Pinchy out a piece of moulded plastic, not something that moves around. All Bachmann need to do is go off the basis of what ERTL did when they released Diesel 10. The not difference is, is that Pinchy will need to be bigger to suit HO Gauge scale better, than ERTL's diecast toy.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: AJW98Productions on February 07, 2016, 08:56:09 AM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #284 By AW98Productions: Pinchy won't make the cost of Diesel 10 sky high. All they need too do, is make Pinchy out a piece of moulded plastic, not something that moves around. All Bachmann need to do is go off the basis of what ERTL did when they released Diesel 10. The not difference is, is that Pinchy will need to be bigger to suit HO Gauge scale better, than ERTL's toy.
It won't be astronomically high, yes. But he still wouldn't be a cheap model, I imagine.

~Alex


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: BassTbone on February 07, 2016, 09:05:24 AM
So...

Who's excited to see what we got coming next year?  ;D

If sometime in the future we do get Skarloey coaches, I hope they look like this:
(http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/ttte/images/3/3b/SkarloeyRailwayCoachesCGI.png/revision/latest?cb=20160115181512)


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 07, 2016, 09:46:07 AM
^^ Above 2 Replies - @Reply #286 By AJW98Productions: How would a bit plastic on top of a BR Class 42 'Warship', which Diesel 10, is make him expensive?

^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #287 By BassTbone: I am hoping that the Narrow Gauge Coaches that Bachmann release will look more like Series 4 - 12 Red Narrow Gauge Coaches like these: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/ttte/images/9/9c/FourLittleEngines26.png/revision/latest?cb=20160113231529/.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: AJW98Productions on February 07, 2016, 09:59:48 AM
Large engine, even though Diesel 10 is a simple enough design, he's a large engine, and with an added claw I don't imagine he'd be at the levels of Gordon and Spencer in price, but I don't really see him being cheap either. But I've more than had enough of talking about Diesel 10, other members covered it well enough, I tried to cover it pretty well. The long and short of it is it would be a terrible business move to release Diesel 10. So I don't even get why it's still a relevant topic.

Anyway, if we're talking about coaches, here is my personal pick:

(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w493/AJW98Productions/NG%20Coaches%20-%20Blue%20and%20White%20%20Duke_zpsm0j3ayfu.png) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/AJW98Productions/media/NG%20Coaches%20-%20Blue%20and%20White%20%20Duke_zpsm0j3ayfu.png.html)

~Alex


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 07, 2016, 10:20:58 AM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #289 By AJW98Productions: If Bachmann where to release Diesel 10, I think he would probably cost about the same as Gordon or Henry or just below, or even at Donald and Douglas' price tag.

What are the chances of Bachmann releasing Duke? Obviously we need Rheneas, Sir Handel, Peter Sam, Rusty and Duncan to be released first, before Duke, but of course Bachmann need to release other Locomotives, after the main 5 have been released. Unless Bachmann in the future, decide to release Mighty Mac, Freddie, Victor, Luke and Millie that is.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: BassTbone on February 07, 2016, 10:38:52 AM
What are the chances of Bachmann releasing Duke? Obviously we need Rheneas, Sir Handel, Peter Sam, Rusty and Duncan to be released first, before Duke, but of course Bachmann need to release other Locomotives, after the main 5 have been released. Unless Bachmann in the future, decide to release Mighty Mac, Freddie, Victor, Luke and Millie that is.
To be honest, it is possible.  With the Ffestiniog Railway being popular as it is and the amount of rolling stock from PECO being made, it is possible.  That being said, it would be like waiting for Duck.  The more exposed NG engines would be released and so on. 


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 07, 2016, 11:08:50 AM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #291 By BassTbone: Yes, I think with all the new tooling PECO are creating ever so quickly in the OO-9 Gauge range, would be possible, but yes, it would be like waiting for Duck to be released which took Bachmann 10 year's to get to. It would be like waiting for Oliver that was announced last year, and even Stepney that has not even been announced yet!

Of course, I do expect and want Rheneas, Sir Handel, Peter Sam, Rusty and Duncan to be released before Duke.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Akodenski on February 07, 2016, 03:57:03 PM
I really would love it if Bachman could release the Miniature Railway this year!


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 07, 2016, 04:18:20 PM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #293 By Akodenski: When you say the "Miniature Railway", are you talking about Mike, Rex and Bert?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: UPTODAY on February 07, 2016, 04:55:50 PM
Alex, is that picture with the little blue coaches a cog railway. i cant believe a regular steamer could make it up that grade!!!
UPTODAY


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 07, 2016, 05:00:03 PM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #295 By UPTODAY: Do you mean that hill is too steep for Duke pulling 4 Coaches and a Brake Van?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: UPTODAY on February 07, 2016, 05:05:00 PM
yes,the hill looks tooooooo steep,maybe it is a optical delusion!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 07, 2016, 05:46:19 PM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #296 By UPTODAY: Well it is a image taken from the TV Series. I am not sure if they turned the camera wonky to film it, or it was done on a hill. I am not sure how this scene was filmed.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: UPTODAY on February 07, 2016, 07:06:35 PM
WOW!FOOLED ME!!!!I thought it was a real train picture!!
UPTODAY


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Titanic5972 on February 07, 2016, 07:17:26 PM
WOW!FOOLED ME!!!!I thought it was a real train picture!!
UPTODAY

Shows that the original TV show modellers did a fabulous job on the sets.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 07, 2016, 07:24:24 PM
^^ Above 2 Replies - @Reply #299 By UPTODAY and ^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #300 By Titanic5972: Yes, Titanic5972 is right saying that they did a fabulous job with the TV Series, and I cannot believe you do not recognise that seen, Steve (UPTODAY)! You are not an avid watcher of Thomas & Friends?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Akodenski on February 07, 2016, 09:21:30 PM
Yes I do mean Mike and Rex.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 08, 2016, 05:08:40 AM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #302 By Akodenski: But if Bachmann released those Locomotive's, it would mean releasing another Thomas & Friends Gauge, with the Narrow Gauge only starting to be released last year, and only a small amount of products in production, the range needs a good kick-off. I will be very surprised if we get a new range again this year. I honestly don't think we will get a new Gauge for a long time, especially the Minature Railway.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: UPTODAY on February 08, 2016, 10:35:52 AM
remember,Jacob,everyone,Im a newbee with this Thomas stuff.Started watching tv shows about a year ago.Now I am getting bit by the narrow gauge bug.No room on the layout however.
UPTODAY


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 08, 2016, 11:00:38 AM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #304 By UPTODAY: Oh, sorry Steve. I did not know you have been watching the TV Series for about a year. I did not know you are that new to Thomas the Tank Engine!

I am getting hit by the Narrow Gauge bug as well! It is a very serious illness! I must make an appointment about it with my GP (My bank account manager)!


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: mully on February 08, 2016, 04:51:06 PM
Personally I can see it maybe being a quiet year this year. I have a feeling we may get Duncan or rusty, just my thoughts, with a item or two of rolling stock which is likely to be a red coach and break van. Ho possibly Paxton although i would love daisy. Large probably Edward or diesel. Still have Oliver and Winston to released. Buildings which seems to go unnoticed. I think ffarquhar station. A depot in scale with skarloey. Possibly knapford clock tower.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 08, 2016, 05:05:52 PM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #306 By mully: At this point, I would like to welcome another new User to the Bachmann Forum, so "welcome mully"!

I agree with you. I do not think Bachmann will release as much this year, in their Thomas & Friends range. I think we had as many products as we did in 2015, because I think we had all of that, to celebrate the 70th Anniversary of Thomas the Tank Engine!

However, I do not think we will not get Rusty or Duncan, just yet. If we do get another Narrow Gauge Locomotive which I hope we do, I am sure it will be Rheneas. Getting Skarloey one year, who is the No. 1 Engine in the hills, would be like getting Thomas, the No. 1 Engine one Engine, but then getting Rusty or Duncan after Skarloey without Rheneas, would be like getting Emily before Percy! This is not going to happen, and it can't happen. Rheneas must and has to be the next Narrow Gauge Engine, that Bachmann release. I cannot stress that enough!


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: mully on February 08, 2016, 05:15:16 PM
Just pointing out tho both Duncan and rusty have had more star roles. Just putting that out there


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 08, 2016, 05:18:31 PM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #308 By mully: Yes, I do agree with you there, but however, Rheneas is pretty much the 'Percy' of the Narrow Gauge Railway, so this is why I am 99% sure that the next Bachmann Narrow Gauge Locomotive that will be released, will be Rheneas.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Akodenski on February 08, 2016, 09:18:43 PM
I would aboslutley love to see Bachman make Rheneas,Peter Sam, and Duncan this year for the narrow gauge railway.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Shawn on February 08, 2016, 11:51:27 PM
Honestly, this year I've never been so stumped by what they will produce...


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Titanic5972 on February 09, 2016, 12:17:11 AM
I'm looking forward to the announcements. I'm imagining we will definitely see a 2nd narrow gauge loco, and hopefully Daisy. Daisy is a loco and rolling stock in one package lol.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: AJW98Productions on February 09, 2016, 12:39:36 AM
Alex, is that picture with the little blue coaches a cog railway. i cant believe a regular steamer could make it up that grade!!!
UPTODAY
I remember reading somewhere that the camera was tilted to give it that effect, but I don't recall where, and the TTTE Wikia doesn't seem to mention it. This extends to the Standard Gauge engines as well, I remember reading that the Standard Gauge engines could barely make it up Gordon's Hill in Season 1 unaided, which makes sense given you can see wires pulling them up Gordon's Hill in some shots if you look close enough.

Side note: Sadly that episode ("You Can't Win") is the fourth episode of the fourth season, which on its own isn't sad, but it is sad when one remembers that it was the last time Duke had a speaking role all to himself...this episode aired in 1996 as well...quite some time ago...

Whilst we're on the topic of this year's Narrow Gauge releases, I'd like to say that I'm not sure how they'd make a model of Duncan given his CGI scaling, he's underscaled next to the other engines and his real life counterpart, Douglas. Call me crazy but I imagine getting Skarloey's motor in his boiler would've already been a tight squeeze, a CGI scaled Duncan would be a nightmare by comparison.

Given how closely Skarloey was modeled off Tallylyn, I personally hope Duncan is modelled closer to his real life counterpart "Douglas" than his CGI model. Though all that may just be a "pipe-dream" of sorts...but it is still a personal hope of mine to see Duncan closer to this:
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w493/AJW98Productions/NG%20Coaches%20-%20Blue%20and%20White%20%20Duncan_zpslzvezzya.png) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/AJW98Productions/media/NG%20Coaches%20-%20Blue%20and%20White%20%20Duncan_zpslzvezzya.png.html)
Than this:
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w493/AJW98Productions/CGI%20Duncan%20Promo_zpsi5afferd.png) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/AJW98Productions/media/CGI%20Duncan%20Promo_zpsi5afferd.png.html)

But that's just me, I don't speak for everyone.

~Alex


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: thomasj219 on February 09, 2016, 04:31:29 AM
I still can't believe the announcments are so close, feels like yesterday Skarloey was announced. Time flies.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 09, 2016, 06:14:45 AM
^^^^^ Above 5 Replies - @Reply #310 By Akodenski: Yes, Bachmann releasing Rheneas, Sir Handel, Peter Sam, Rusty and Duncan is what we need, but with the Narrow Gauge range only launching last year, it hard to hear that Bachmann will release three Narrow Gauge Locomotive's in one year, never mind two!

^^^ Above 3 Replies - @Reply #312 By Titanic5972: Yes, I agree! We do need Dasiy. Bo-Co has also just sprung to mind and we need him as well!

^^ Above 2 Replies - @Reply #313 By AJW98Productions: I am shocked to hear that! Why did the producers of Thomas & Friends include a big hill like Gordon's Hill, of the Locomotives where not able to go up it, at their own accord?

I agree with you Alex. I would like Duncan to be released how he seen with all those pipes in the CGI series, but due to delicacy of it, they may produce Duncan to the model era of him.

^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #314 By thomasj219: Yes, it just does feel like yesterday from when Skarloey was announced. I am also looking forward to this year's announcements! I would like some new Locomotive's that Hornby have not produced! Please don't let me down Bachmann!


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: AJW98Productions on February 09, 2016, 08:26:19 AM
^^ Above 2 Replies - @Reply #313 By AJW98Productions: I am shocked to hear that! Why did the producers of Thomas & Friends include a big hill like Gordon's Hill, of the Locomotives where not able to go up it, at their own accord?
No idea, I guess a realistic incline wouldn't look all that steep to children, but I really don't know. It could also just be that the original models were not all that powerful, I honestly don't know.

~Alex


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Duke on February 09, 2016, 11:28:18 AM
What are the chances of Bachmann releasing Duke? Obviously we need Rheneas, Sir Handel, Peter Sam, Rusty and Duncan to be released first, before Duke, but of course Bachmann need to release other Locomotives, after the main 5 have been released. Unless Bachmann in the future, decide to release Mighty Mac, Freddie, Victor, Luke and Millie that is.

I would love if Duke was released. Take a Guess why  ;D


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Duke on February 09, 2016, 11:45:42 AM
Think my profilname says it all  ;)


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 09, 2016, 12:00:00 PM
^^^^ Above 4 Replies - @Reply #316 By AJW98Productions: Where the Locomotives used in the model era TV Series, ever improved so they could go up Gordon's Hill, without being winched up?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: MeganekkoFury1126 on February 09, 2016, 12:38:00 PM
The most probable reason the engines, which were in 1:32 or Number One gauge, couldn't negotiate the grade was it was just too steep. Almost all model trains I've had experience with can't negotiate more than 2 or 3% grades. Pushing it at 4% or more is asking for slippage.

Grade percentage is measured in how much of height the grade increases is for every 100 units. For example, a 2% grade raises 2 inches for every 100 inches. At least that's how it's done in model railroading.

But back to the narrow gauge engines, it'll be interesting to see how Duncan (my most favorite narrow gauge engine) comes out when he eventually gets made. Yes, it certainly would be tricky fitting all the internal components inside. I didn't realize until recently just how skinny Duncan is compared to the others. We'll just have to see how the other characters get made. Personally, I'm most looking forward to see how they make Peter Sam with his special funnel.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 09, 2016, 04:44:19 PM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #321 By MeganekkoFury1126: Yes, I do find model railway locomotive's do not travel up hill's very well.

How do you know that Bachmann will produce Peter Sam with his special funnel? I would Bachman to do this, but he MIGHT be fitted with his round funnel. Who knows what Bachmann will do!


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: MeganekkoFury1126 on February 09, 2016, 10:15:45 PM
Because it's like the chances of making Henry in his old shape. More people are familiar with Peter Sam with his new funnel because 1) it's what he's most known for and 2) he's appeared much more often with it. Peter Sam only had his old conventional funnel in 10 episodes.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: JLK2707 on February 09, 2016, 11:57:29 PM
Fair enough mate. But the wooden railways range made Peter sam with his original funnel.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: AJW98Productions on February 10, 2016, 12:16:49 AM
Fair enough mate. But the wooden railways range made Peter sam with his original funnel.
To be fair, they made just about every product under the sun though, if Bachmann tried to mimic Learning Curve's release schedule, they'd find themselves practically bankrupt very quickly. I think MeganekkoFury1126 was quite right on that point, and also about the gradients (putting it in a way better than I could've dreamed of putting it). :)

But back to the narrow gauge engines, it'll be interesting to see how Duncan (my most favorite narrow gauge engine) comes out when he eventually gets made. Yes, it certainly would be tricky fitting all the internal components inside. I didn't realize until recently just how skinny Duncan is compared to the others. We'll just have to see how the other characters get made. Personally, I'm most looking forward to see how they make Peter Sam with his special funnel.
Duncan's prototype is a very skinny engine too, but his CGI model is even more so than either classic series or his real life counterpart...so I think it could be hard for his model to match his CGI scaling, let alone his earlier scaling, but given how closely Skarloey matches Tallylyn (going so far as having rivet patterns that match Tallylyn instead of his CGI counterpart), it could be probable that Bachmann would manufacture Duncan's body to match his prototype (Douglas), closer than his CGI model. But that's just a thought...

~Alex


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 10, 2016, 04:36:39 AM
^^^ Above 3 Replies - @Reply #323 By MeganekkoFury1126: That is true what you said there, that more people recognise Peter Sam with his original round funnel. This surely does not mean that Bachmann will produce Peter Sam without his round funnel though, does it?

^^ Above 2 Replies - @Reply #324 By JLK2707: I am sure that ERTL produced Peter Sam with his original round funnel as well.

^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #325 By AJW98Productions: What has Donald and Douglas' prototype got to do with Duncan? I am getting confused now!


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: AJW98Productions on February 10, 2016, 05:47:02 AM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #325 By AJW98Productions: What has Donald and Douglas' prototype got to do with Duncan? I am getting confused now!
Duncan's prototype is actually called "Douglas", that's what I was referring to.


^^^ Above 3 Replies - @Reply #323 By MeganekkoFury1126: That is true what you said there, that more people recognise Peter Sam with his original round funnel. This surely does not mean that Bachmann will produce Peter Sam without his round funnel though, does it?
They probably never will, for reasons stated before, and we had a previous conversation about Henry's in a thread a few months ago, it's much the same principles with Peter Sam's funnel.

~Alex


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 10, 2016, 06:46:41 AM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #327 By AJW98Productions: So Duncan's original name was Douglas?

I think as Peter Sam has had his special funnel the most, Bachmann will release Peter Sam with his special funnel and not his original round funnel.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Titanic5972 on February 10, 2016, 01:29:07 PM
So when do the announcements usually occur? I'm guessing it's at some show?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 10, 2016, 01:35:42 PM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #329 By Titanic5972: The way I understand it, is that the announcements are announced at the Toy Fair.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Titanic5972 on February 10, 2016, 01:44:43 PM
And when is the toy fair?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 10, 2016, 02:34:43 PM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #331 By Titanic5972: This weekend, I think.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: TTTEfan1992 on February 10, 2016, 03:52:16 PM
The toy fair runs from February 13 - 16 of this year (between this Saturday and this coming Tuesday).


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Titanic5972 on February 10, 2016, 06:14:07 PM
Great. I will keep an eye out


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 10, 2016, 06:16:53 PM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #334 By Titanic5972: Are you going to go to the Toy Fair, Titanic5972?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: ClrwtrMK2 on February 11, 2016, 11:52:29 AM
Bachmann should make Rosie period! If they won't... I will with 3D Printing Technology.
Yeah, I obviously threatened to 3D Print my own HO/00 Rosie.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 11, 2016, 12:34:32 PM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #336 By ClrwtrMK2: But a 3D printed Rosie would not be a model railway locomotive. It would not run and couple up to rolling stock.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Titanic5972 on February 11, 2016, 12:39:15 PM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #334 By Titanic5972: Are you going to go to the Toy Fair, Titanic5972?

I meant I will keep an eye out online. Living in New Zealand I can't exactly just pop into the fair lol


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 11, 2016, 12:45:42 PM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #338 By Titanic5972: Oh, sorry. I did not realise you live in New Zealand.

This for everybody to read now and / or to respond too: I am UK resident, so myself being at the Toy Fair is not going to happen, sadly, so if somebody could post on this Forum of what Bachmann are announcing in the Thomas & Friends range, please post it on the Forum as soon as you can.

I am really looking forward to the announcements. Thank your for co-operation, and in advanced if somebody could do this. :)


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on February 11, 2016, 01:00:20 PM
The announcements are usually posted by a moderator either the day before the Toy Fair or sometime during or after.  We might get announcements as early as tomorrow. :)


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 11, 2016, 01:20:21 PM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #340 By Chaz: Ah OK, thank you for that information Chaz. I have only been using this Forum since October 2015, so I am unsure about how the announcements get announced in the Forum.

I am not sure if I have mentioned this, but last year, I downloaded a PDF of the Catalogue onto my iPad, so I knew what Bachmann where releasing.

Everybody, please ignore what I wrote in the last post I made, if the Moderators will post the announcements. I only said that, because I was not sure what would happen in the way of the announcements being released into the Forum.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: TTTEfan1992 on February 11, 2016, 02:16:25 PM
I think if I'm not mistaking. Could the catalog be posted as early as tomorrow? Last year on YouTube, GWR83 (now GWR Studios) uploaded a walkthrough of the 2015 catalog on February 13, 2015 while the toy fair last year ran from February 14 - 17, 2015. He posted a video of last year's catalog a day before the toy fair. My question is, are the catalogs posted online a day before the toy fair sometimes?

My other question is, what is the moderator's user name on here? I want to find the announcements on here as soon as they are announced, and the forum the moderator post the announcements on.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 11, 2016, 02:36:33 PM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #342 By TTTEfan1992: There are lots of Moderator's on this Forum. I guess any of them could make the announcements. My guesses is that, I think 'the Bach-man' might make the announcements. I think he is the main Moderator, but please don't count me on this information.

UPDATE: Oops, now I feel like a fool! I have just found out, that the Bach-man is the Administrator! EEK!


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Griffin on February 11, 2016, 02:37:17 PM
I think if I'm not mistaking. Could the catalog be posted as early as tomorrow? Last year on YouTube, GWR83 (now GWR Studios) uploaded a walkthrough of the 2015 catalog on February 13, 2015 while the toy fair last year ran from February 14 - 17, 2015. He posted a video of last year's catalog a day before the toy fair. My question is, are the catalogs posted online a day before the toy fair sometimes?

My other question is, what is the moderator's user name on here? I want to find the announcements on here as soon as they are announced, and the forum the moderator post the announcements on.

The main moderator who posts announcements is InsideTrack :)


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: TTTEfan1992 on February 11, 2016, 03:46:46 PM
Is it possible that this year's catalog can posted as early as tomorrow?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 11, 2016, 03:52:27 PM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #345 By TTTEfan1992: It will be nice if it does, but I kind of have a feeling it will not be. I have a feeling we have to wait until one of the days of the Toy Fair.

Also, does anybody know which of the 4 days of the Toy Fair, that Bachmann will reveal this year's new releases in the Thomas & Friends range?


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on February 11, 2016, 04:22:35 PM
The catalog and announcements will be up when they are posted around the Toy Fair as I've mentioned several times before.  There's no telling when exactly beyond that, so both of you need to be a little more paitent.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: mully on February 11, 2016, 04:32:12 PM
Yeah it is a matter of time mean last year they announced the products on the Friday before the toy show, year before the announced them on the Sunday during the toy show. Patience guys.  :D sure it will be worth it


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 11, 2016, 04:45:56 PM
^^ Above 2 Replies - @Reply #347 By Chaz and ^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #348 By mully: OK, sorry Chaz and mully. I am just really excited for this year's Bachamnn Thomas & Friends releases. I am excited as if I am a kid in a sweet shop!


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Sparks on February 11, 2016, 11:54:21 PM
So any last calls? I'm betting on Rheneas and Daisy.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: JD417 on February 12, 2016, 01:37:13 AM
My guesses are;

HOn30 - Rheneas, V Tipper Wagon, Slate Wagon, and Brake Van.


HO Scale - Paxton, Rosie, or Daisy, Troublesome Truck #5, and Water Tanker.


Large Scale - Edward or Diesel, Henrietta, and Ventilated Van.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: ilovetrains323 on February 12, 2016, 01:45:50 AM
Here's Mine.  :P

HO: Daisy, Rosie, Or Paxton

HO Rolling Stock: TT#5 or CCT Van


SKR:Rheneas, Coaches, or Slate Trucks

Large Scale: Edward, Diesel or Stephen
LS Rolling Stock: Mail Van or Henretta

Random Guesses: Dowager Hatt figure and Butch.

I feel Stephen would be nice for the real world fans also, Remove the face and you have The Rocket.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Chaz on February 12, 2016, 02:11:07 AM
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we didn't get any engines in HO or large scale because of Oliver and Winston not being out yet. But if we do, my money is on Paxton or Daisy in HO and Diesel or Edward in large scale.

Either way I'm pretty confident that the next narrow gauge engine is Rheneas.



Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: mully on February 12, 2016, 03:49:11 AM
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we didn't get any engines in HO or large scale because of Oliver and Winston not being out yet. But if we do, my money is on Paxton or Daisy in HO and Diesel or Edward in large scale.

Either way I'm pretty confident that the next narrow gauge engine is Rheneas.


i guess that it will all depend on how close Oliver and Winston are too completion
 tbh i didn't expect to see toad till the toy show announcements so who knows. Its an exciting time to be a fan


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Titanic5972 on February 12, 2016, 04:43:44 AM
My predictions are

HO: Daisy or one the Class 08-based Diesels, possibly another troublesome truck, don't really know of any new coaches in the series not previously covered.

Narrow Gauge: Rheneas and maybe some of the coaches.

And someone previously guessed at Flying Scotsman for the new movie. If so, I would imagine he would simply be Gordon's model with Spencer's tender.


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: sean1994rail on February 12, 2016, 05:02:17 AM
For HO IMO:

Locomotives:
Paxton
Sidney
Daisy
Hiro
Or
Porter

Rolling Stock:
Troublesome truck #5 (salt, ice cream or ventilated van tooling to be used please.)
Hopper Wagon
Rocky
Hector
Flatbed with any load
Re released express coaches

Vehicles:
Bulgy
Trevor
George
Kevin

Buildings:
Sodor Steamworks
Sodor shipping co warehouse
Sodor airport
Motorised water mill
Town hall

NG
Rheneas
Victor
NG brake vans
NG coaches



Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 12, 2016, 07:00:33 AM
My last minute predictions are:

Bachmann Thomas & Friends HO/OO Locomotives:
Stepney
Charlie

Bachmann Thomas & Friends HO/OO Passenger Rolling Stock:
Red Express Composite Coach - Re-release
Red Express Brake Coach - Re-release

Bachmann Thomas & Friends HO/OO Freight Rolling Stock:
Flatbed with Paint Drums Re-release
Cattle Wagon - Re-release
Well Wagon - Re-release
Salt Wagon - Re-release
RF Container Wagon - Re-release
6 Ton Wagon - Re-release
Troublesome Truck #5

Bachmann Thomas & Friends Accessories:
Lady Hatt
Dowager Hatt
Bulgy
Trevor
George
Caroline

Bachmann Thomas & Friends Narrow Gauge Locomotives:
Rheneas

Bachmann Thomas Friends Narrow Gauge Passenger Rolling Stock:
Red Coach
Blue Coach

Bachmann Thomas Friends Narrow Gauge Freight Rolling Stock:
Tea Room Coach
Troublesome Truck #1
Troublesome Truck #2
Slate Truck
D.Fusit Gunpowder Wagon
Flatbed
Well Wagon
Red Brake Van
Blue Brake Van
Grey Brake Van
Brown Brake Van


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: ClrwtrMK2 on February 12, 2016, 12:09:18 PM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #336 By ClrwtrMK2: But a 3D printed Rosie would not be a model railway locomotive. It would not run and couple up to rolling stock.
Unless it's just a Loco Shell... & Here's my last calls.

HO Locomotives
Rosie
Harvey

HO Rolling Stock
Old Van
China Clay Wagon

HO Off-Rail
Trevor
Elizabeth

Narrow Gauge
Rheneas
D-Fuist Tanker
Slate Wagon
Narrow Gauge Brake Van

Large Scale Locomotives
Gordon or Henry

Large Scale Rolling Stock
Express Composite Coach
Express Brake Coach


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Jacob Wilson on February 12, 2016, 12:34:03 PM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #358 By ClrwtrMK2: But even if you printed out a 3D bodyshell of Rosie, you wouldn't have a chassis or motor and the paper bodyshell on an electric model railway motor and chassis would look odd!


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: TTTE1945 on February 12, 2016, 12:58:08 PM
For HO  scale, all I want are
Stepney
Daisy
TT#5
Rheneas 
Rolling stock re-releases 


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: Metal on February 12, 2016, 01:39:03 PM
I guess I'll give out mine

HO/OO
Daisy, Paxton, Hiro

Narrow Gauge
Rheneas, Peter Sam, Rusty

LS
Edward, Diesel


Title: Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends in 2016
Post by: thomasj219 on February 12, 2016, 02:21:39 PM
My hopes are

HO
Daisy or Stepney. I wouldn't mind Paxton though.
China Clay Truck
Van of some sort

Narrow Gauge
Rheneas, Blue and Red coach, slate wagon.

Large
Edward
Mail Car