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Title: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on July 04, 2016, 09:43:41 PM
Folks,

I have been saving my pennies, and searching for a Bachmann USRA Mikado for quite some time.  I finally pulled the trigger and my 2-8-2 should be arriving tomorrow, according to the package tracker.

Some of you are aware I tend to take a lot of pics, and share my projects as I work on them.  This is no exception.  I intend to make this loco look as close to the B&O Q-3 as I possible can.  This will take a while...

To start, I have gathered many needed parts to get this loco's details up to snuff:

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0221_zps6ust2g4i.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0221_zps6ust2g4i.jpg.html)

A few more detail parts are in the mail.

My intention is to shave down the loco shell's molded on details and put brass, steel bronze parts on as a replacement.  Why?  Bachmann steamers tend to run very, very well in my experience.  They just need a little tweaking to make them match a prototype.  

Anyway, here's looking forward to a long thread.  Wish me luck.

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: rogertra on July 04, 2016, 11:33:51 PM
Jonathan.

Keep us informed.  I haven't bothered with the Bachmann 2-8-2 as of yet simply because it does come with cast on details.  This is, sadly, a step backwards from the quality we'd come to expect with the Spectrum range, although the price point is still up in what we paid for the Spectrum range.

Cheers


Roger T.
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: Trainman203 on July 05, 2016, 02:28:37 PM
Jonathon, competitor engines also have molded on detail.  Seperate piping, a increasingly costly option, is going to be a thing of the past for all vendors.

I'm ok with molded on stuff to a point.  Right now I'm in transition to retirement and will be moving, so fragile detail is something I can do without for now.  I'll be getting the Frisco one later this year.
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on July 05, 2016, 04:32:21 PM
Yep, I've noticed most manufacturers are using less separately applied details.  Thank goodness I still like to tinker and still have enough hand-eye coordination to do some work.  :)

My new baby came in the mail today.
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Rolling%20Stock/DSC_0228_zpsmng7lgnw.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/Rolling%20Stock/DSC_0228_zpsmng7lgnw.jpg.html)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Rolling%20Stock/DSC_0229_zpszwjv4y8h.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/Rolling%20Stock/DSC_0229_zpszwjv4y8h.jpg.html)

I performed a quick inspection... found nothing broken, misaligned to missing.  Also, ran a quick trip back and forth to make sure everything works.  It does.  I notice, like all sound values so far, the volume is a bit diminished compared to the regular tsunami.  No biggie, as I usually find the volumes to be too loud anyway. 

She runs just a bit stiff, but shouldn't be a problem after some break-in time.

Well, I have a lot of work to do, but not today. 

I will start posting pics and descriptions as I trick-out my new toy.

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: Trainman203 on July 05, 2016, 06:24:34 PM
I would have done all of that detailing 10 years ago.  Can't see as good as before, makes little difference to me now.  One thing I "am" doing is replacing the stirrups and brakewheels on about 75 or so "blue box" type cars.  Makes a pretty big diffence.  After I move, I'll probably  add the cut levers.
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on July 05, 2016, 07:20:17 PM
Oh BTW, here is the tender shell off:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0230_01_zpsfp40sa1y.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0230_01_zpsfp40sa1y.jpg.html)

The speaker is under the electronics, pointing down.  The shell comes off with one screw and a push on the two tabs in the back of the shell.... easy.  Notice the two wires heading to the reverse light.

I couldn't help myself. I had to move the ladder:

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0234_zpsj7vou5jk.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0234_zpsj7vou5jk.jpg.html)

Moving the ladder took 5 minutes.  It takes a lot longer to fill in and smooth out the holes.

Every steamer I ever had, always came with the ladder on the wrong side.   :)

Regards,

Jonathan

Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: rogertra on July 05, 2016, 09:41:12 PM
One would think the ladder would always be on the fireman's side as it's the fireman's job to climb up onto the tender to fill the tank.

If the ladder is on the engineer's side, that means either a longer journey around the front of the loco to reach the ladder or a not so safe climb over the coupler to reach the ladder or the fireman has to exit the cab via the engineer's side.

A quick Google didn't answer my question as it seems to vary depending on the road but I did notice that most of the Canadian photos the ladder was on the fireman's side.


Cheers

Roger T.

Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: ebtnut on July 06, 2016, 12:49:30 PM
Jonathon:  You probably have already done this, but a search in the Rails Northeast photo file shows No. 4508 with a big Vandy tender, either from an S-1 or an EL articulated.  I'm going to try and locate a Rivarossi tender to do this exchange, just to be different.  I used the same tender behind my Westside Q-4 instead of the stock tender.  For DCC, I cut out the cast-in coal load to gain access to the interior, replacing the load with a removable carved foam load covered with real crushed coal. 
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on July 06, 2016, 01:33:39 PM
Indeed I did see that photo!

If this was a non-sound loco, I might try the same project. Rather, I may renumber it to match one of the other Q-3s.  Out of the 100 Q-3s, about a dozen did not install a brakeman's seat behind the fireman.  I was going to pick one of those numbers and carry on.

Been studying the prototype photos as well as the brass photos.  However, even Westside put a few mistakes in their Mikes... like the ladder on the wrong side!  :)

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on July 06, 2016, 04:11:32 PM
OK a little progress this evening.

The water fill lid has a couple of new grabirons and a lid rest thingy:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0240_zpsokqrjwlp.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0240_zpsokqrjwlp.jpg.html)

Meanwhile the back of the tender has a new Kadee scalehead coupler, cut lever, moved ladder, grabirons, , airhose, and passenger hose connector thingy.... along with a chain.   I don't know what the chain is for, but the only rear photo I have shows a chain hanging down... perhaps a towhook?
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0239_zps9nurfbhr.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0239_zps9nurfbhr.jpg.html)

I have filled in all the holes... just waiting for that to set up so I can sand them down smooth.  Then I can paint and weather the tender.

Next I'll work on the frame/mechanism assembly.  Saving the loco shell for last.

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: Trainman203 on July 06, 2016, 05:43:28 PM
The stock whistle casting is terrible. Use one from a 4-4-0, although you have to cut the lever off.
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: rogertra on July 06, 2016, 09:06:42 PM
The chain on the tender is to hold the steam heating connect out of the way when it's not in use.


Cheers


Roger T

Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: Trainman203 on July 06, 2016, 10:54:52 PM
So these B&O Macarthurs ran in passenger service?
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: rogertra on July 06, 2016, 11:01:53 PM
Quote from: Trainman203 on July 06, 2016, 10:54:52 PM
So these B&O Macarthurs ran in passenger service?

The loco does have a steam heat connection, which is not that unusual on a freight engine as they could be pressed into passenger service if the need arises but Johnathan will be the best one to answer that question.

Cheers

Roger T.
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on July 07, 2016, 05:19:46 AM
Thanks, yes.  The B&O McArthur/Mikados were pressed into passenger service from time-to-time. Especially during WWII. I remember reading about it, but I can't quote chapter and verse at the moment.

Later on, they were also given switcher pilots and rear steps. Then pressed into switching and short haul service.  The railroad got there money's worth out of these guys.

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on July 07, 2016, 05:34:47 PM
To remove the 2-8-2 shell, take out two screws under the cab
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0241_zps6ffp8pwi.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0241_zps6ffp8pwi.jpg.html)

Remove one screw under the cylinder.  Don't worry, this will  not loosen the steam chest:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0242_zps6rjo3iql.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0242_zps6rjo3iql.jpg.html)

Finally (or first), slide out the boiler stays from the smokebox.  The shell will lift right off.

I painted one of the light wires before cutting, to remember how to solder them back together:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0245_zpse0k8lgxv.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0245_zpse0k8lgxv.jpg.html)

The smokebox front comes off by popping the bottom:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0246_zpsrqcabpks.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0246_zpsrqcabpks.jpg.html)

There is a bit of glue holding the smokebox front on, but it pops fairly easily
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0247_zpsfuvt8uyg.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0247_zpsfuvt8uyg.jpg.html)

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on July 07, 2016, 07:03:07 PM
OK, in one photo, here's what I've completed so far...
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0248_zpsti0aydeb.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0248_zpsti0aydeb.jpg.html)

Tender is done, save for the weathering.

Pilot has a kadee coupler, new hose, and "keep off" markings.

The cab has been marked "Q-3" under the number.  I removed the glazing, added a little weight to the roof, and threw in a coat of light green inside.

Still saving the boiler for last.

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on July 09, 2016, 02:43:18 PM
Cab done:

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0250_zpsx5nxpsqa.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0250_zpsx5nxpsqa.jpg.html)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0251_zpsc9e1epk0.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0251_zpsc9e1epk0.jpg.html)

I had to amputate a couple feet to make 'em fit.  You can see the weight added:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0252_zpsv3yocxsf.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0252_zpsv3yocxsf.jpg.html)

Some preliminary fitting of new pieces for the boiler shell:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0254_zps6yuapqjv.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0254_zps6yuapqjv.jpg.html)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0253_zpsaomxeupa.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0253_zpsaomxeupa.jpg.html)


Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on July 09, 2016, 08:18:46 PM
Boiler starting to take shape:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0256_zpskjmzfhe0.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0256_zpskjmzfhe0.jpg.html)

Once all the parts are shaped and fitted, I will remove them, and paint.  At the same time, I will finish sanding the shell and touch it up.

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on July 10, 2016, 04:30:19 PM
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0260_zpshe9ivoho.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0260_zpshe9ivoho.jpg.html)

New stanchions and grab iron up top.

Cut off the cast on step.  It was on the wrong side.  Put a brass step on the other side.  Cut off the plastic class lights and added brass ones with jewels.

Here's a slightly different angle.
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0257_zpsqvjm56io.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0257_zpsqvjm56io.jpg.html)

A little touch up and the smokebox front should be completed.

I finished fitting all the detail parts for the boiler shell.  It will take few days, I'm ready to take off the parts, paint them and permanently install them in place.

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: BaltoOhioRRfan on July 11, 2016, 10:23:42 AM
Since you're going all out I thought I'd let you know the tender light is in the wrong position......

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/1796533_725007767522682_5800059708623110721_n.jpg?oh=e83c8ff8bae196c1c2c085d23bbcee94&oe=57F7BF49)
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on July 11, 2016, 10:36:27 AM
Yep, I know.  Thanks.  I'm going to let is slide on this loco.  I intend to do two Mikados.  I'll fix the headlight and reverse light on the next model. Didn't want to monkey with the lights on this one, just in case I botched the job.  :)

Saw your recent post.  If I may recommend:

The Western Pacific version (DCC Ready) has the correct tender trucks and trailing truck.  You could move the headlight and bell.  Then mark it for B&O.  For whatever the reason these models can be had at bargain basement prices at the moment.

I'm finding these are really good runners, with some added weight. 

I enjoy the superdetailing part. So these locos are right up my alley. I happen to know you are really handy with a hobby knife, drill and paint...

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on July 12, 2016, 08:34:52 PM
Getting closer:

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0263_zpsl7tocboh.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0263_zpsl7tocboh.jpg.html)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0262_zpsr5psc4ru.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0262_zpsr5psc4ru.jpg.html)

Added about 1.5 ounces of weight in the cab, steam dome, sand dome and smokebox.  That's all there was room for.

That cab/tender deck apron is a Cal Scale part. Happened across it at a train show last weekend.

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: J3a-614 on July 12, 2016, 09:44:16 PM
Looking good! 

I like how it seems you used the cast-on starting valve as a base for your added (brass?) detailed starting valve--saves some carving and smoothing!  I'll have to keep that in mind if I get one.

Of course, I'm still spoiled about the earlier Spectrum stuff. . .was so nice to have 3-D detail instead of cast on.
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on July 13, 2016, 07:55:54 AM
Don't give up on the Spectrum stuff, yet.  I have a feeling we'll see another offering in the future. At the train show last weekend, I saw three unopened Heavy Mountains for sale.  So the shelves may not be cleared enough for a rerelease, or for something new.  Just my gut feeling...

I did shave down the cast on starter, but not completely. So yes, I did use part of it for a base for my brass starter.

My big problem right now is how to paint brass .008" wire with the paint beading for falling off.  I have to add a bell pull, whistle pull and starter pull, all of which I have prefit.

In the past, I have used magnet wire for pulls, but even that looses paint.  Fine silk thread looks terrible. It's a pickle.

Regards,

Jonathan

Addendum:  I love those mountains so much, I almost bought one, even though I don't need another 4-8-2.
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: JWhite on July 13, 2016, 04:13:19 PM
QuoteIn the past, I have used magnet wire for pulls, but even that looses paint.  Fine silk thread looks terrible. It's a pickle.

Have you tried fine fishing line or stretched plastic sprue? You can get a line about any thickness you want by heating a piece of scrap styrene sprue over a candle and stretching it, but it's won't be as durable as wire.  I've had good luck with Rustoleum gray auto primer as a base coat on all kinds of wire.
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on July 13, 2016, 09:12:43 PM
I like the fine fishing line idea. Thanks for that! My son is forever dragging me to gander mountain for fishing supplies.

I had a tough time trying to post these pics tonight. photobucket is not cooperating.

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0269_zpsdu2dewfu.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0269_zpsdu2dewfu.jpg.html)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0266_zpswihgasy8.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0266_zpswihgasy8.jpg.html)

Things left to do:

Long grabs behind the cab

Paint and install pull ropes

Clean the wheels

Take some good photos

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on July 14, 2016, 06:31:49 PM
I found the drawbar to be a bit saggy... like it was riding a bit low on the kingpin.  So, I put a very thin metal washer between the screw and the drawbar:

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0273_zpsb1qd4yux.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0273_zpsb1qd4yux.jpg.html)

Straightened the bar perfectly, and still swings loosely.  Perfect.

Finished the last grabs:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0272_zpsjen8fzf5.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0272_zpsjen8fzf5.jpg.html)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0271_zpszv7iwi4f.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0271_zpszv7iwi4f.jpg.html)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0270_zpsf0tow0ut.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0270_zpsf0tow0ut.jpg.html)

Almost done.  Whew!

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: rogertra on July 14, 2016, 10:07:31 PM
If this engine had been released as a Spectrum engine with the details you've added, details that were pretty much standard on the Spectrum range. I'd have bought two or three as would no doubt many other modellers.

Cheers

Roger T.

Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: JWhite on July 15, 2016, 01:51:20 AM
If Bachmann would take the chassis and running gear from this locomotive, and the shell from the 2-8-0 and stretch it to fit, the 2-8-2 chassis they would have an IC 2-8-2 and I would probably buy at least 8 of them.  That's wishful thinking, even though the 2-8-0 was from an IC prototype, they have never released one decorated for the IC.

Oh well, it makes good kitbashing fodder to fill my roster out with IC 2-8-2s.....There are more IC modelers out there then you think ;)
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on July 15, 2016, 05:20:07 AM
This one is done!

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0279_01_zps3hhkysaw.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0279_01_zps3hhkysaw.jpg.html)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0275_zpsroyppmtc.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0275_zpsroyppmtc.jpg.html)

Deck Apron:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0277_zpstzrijdly.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0277_zpstzrijdly.jpg.html)

I followed JWhite on the engine primer for the pulls:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0281_zpsb8p83lcj.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0281_zpsb8p83lcj.jpg.html)

Worked pretty well.  For the next one, I may try the fishing line trick... I'm curious.

Also, for my next one, I'm going to upgrade the lights and the trailing truck:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0286_01_zpsm6ky7tek.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0286_01_zpsm6ky7tek.jpg.html)

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: West Bound on July 15, 2016, 09:45:39 AM
I'm curious, how many man hours did you spend on this project and how much did it cost? By the way you tuly a professional. -John West
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on July 15, 2016, 10:25:24 AM
First, thank you, John, for the nice compliment. Don't know about the professional part. I just like to tinker.

A rough estimate of hours... hmmm... It took about 12 days from receipt in the mail to completion of the locomotive.  That's about 24-30 hours of work.

I spent about $20 on detail parts at the last train show, and I already had some parts I'd collected over time.  The most expensive being the brass USRA trailing truck... which I haven't used yet.... Say another $20 worth of parts I had laying around, including Tichy wire.

That trailing truck cost somewhere around $20, so I hope I get to use it on the next locomotive.

I don't want to mention what I paid for the two USRA Light Mikados, except to say I shopped around for a long time to get the best deal possible.  I had been saving change ever since the 2-8-2s were announced.  That was quite a while ago.

Here's couple of recommendations, even if one doesn't want to modify their 2-8-2s:

1. The thin washer placed under the drawbar is a good idea to avoid running problems. I think a Kadee fiber washer would work just as well as a metal washer.

2. I had to adjust the gage on the pony truck and trailing truck.  They were just a pinch narrow.  So have your Kadee gage tool handy.  The drivers were perfectly in gage.

3.  The locomotive really needs a bit of extra weight. It's lighter than the Consolidation, though I couldn't say by how much.  I added 1.5 ounces, as mentioned earlier.  The motor is the same size as the motor in the USRA Heavy Mountain.  So, there's plenty of torque.  Don't think you'll hurt the motor with weight.

4.  This locomotive has a series of three delrin gears after the worm.  It's very similar to the Bachmann 2-8-4 gears.  I wish they were a bit wider, but they are probably fine.  I'm a strong believer in over engineering.  I am no engineer, however.

5.  Somebody finally did their homework in regards to the sound.  The chuff rate is more in line with the turn of the wheels.  Usually the stock Tsunamis' chuff rate is much too slow.  This is a big improvement.

6. Addendum.  Clean the wheels! All of 'em!  They really need it.  'nuff said.

I know many folks would like more detail. I understand. I'm weird that way.  I like less detail.  Gives me something to do at the work bench.

I give the locomotive two thumbs up. It's a great "value" compared to the purchase price.  I could see myself easily ending up with six of these babies, just like I did with the Connies.

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: JWhite on July 15, 2016, 12:33:50 PM
Looks great Jonathon! I'm glad the primer on the wire worked for you.  I might have to copy your work, I have an interchange with the B&O on my layout in the town of Odin, IL.  So I can use some B&O power.

Jeff
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: rogertra on July 15, 2016, 03:18:02 PM
Excellent job on the finished product.

Cheers

Roger T.

Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on July 15, 2016, 04:40:32 PM
Thanks, guys... greatly appreciated.  Ready to move on to the next one.

I really wanted to put on this brass trailing truck. The detail is cool.  Even the journal boxes open up so you can lubricate the axles (graphite):
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0295_zpsgfeiho0b.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0295_zpsgfeiho0b.jpg.html)

Well... to get it to fit took the following:

I had to increase the size of the hole to 9/64" so it would fit on the Bachmann mounting post:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0289_zps8jbfltlo.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0289_zps8jbfltlo.jpg.html)

But the brass truck is too thick to put the screw back on.  The screw would tighten on the truck and lock it.
Then I found a brass bushing left over from a former brass loco project as it would happen.  The bushing acts just like a journaled screw, enabling me to clamp down on the screw and the post without interfering with the truck:

OK, I've got to give up on photobucket tonight.  It's just not working well.  Anyway, here is the brass bushing sitting on the post.  You will just have to trust me that this works.

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0290_01_zpsssiolxs2.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0290_01_zpsssiolxs2.jpg.html)

There... finally.  Truck swings freely with the screw tightened down.
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0291_01_zpsmb72cry8.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0291_01_zpsmb72cry8.jpg.html)

Didn't expect to work this hard on the truck.  Now I've got to clean it up and paint again.  Oh well...

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on July 15, 2016, 09:34:04 PM
I salvaged the LED from the reverse light.  My intention is to leave the LED (SMD) inside the tender and mount it, in order to shine through a light tube to my new reverse light.

I also salvaged one of those light transfer tube thingamawhatzitz from a Connie years ago.  Don't throw anything away... ever.  ;D

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0297_zps9j5o9ib9.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0297_zps9j5o9ib9.jpg.html)

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on July 16, 2016, 04:30:23 PM
I made a reverse light from half an air reservoir (Tichy), half a brake stand (Tichy) and a piece of a centering spring (kadee):
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0299_zpsmj4yz8qv.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0299_zpsmj4yz8qv.jpg.html)

This is a blurry shot, but this is where the light transfer thingy goes, inside the shell:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0301_01_zpsbwfodfcj.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0301_01_zpsbwfodfcj.jpg.html)

The light can is a bit oversized, but I couldn't find anything I liked for a commercial reverse light.  Perhaps a Pyle headlight would have worked:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0308_zpssb65x1io.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0308_zpssb65x1io.jpg.html)

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on July 17, 2016, 07:05:35 AM
This looks a little closer to the Q-3 Tender at the B&O RR Museum:

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0311_zps0y4ordq1.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0311_zps0y4ordq1.jpg.html)

Again, my reverse light is a bit oversized.  I can live with it.

A list of what was done:

Changed style and location of reverse light
Added scale-head coupler
Added cut lever
Added air hose
Moved ladder
Corrected capacity markings
Added water lid grabs
Added rear grabs
Added 1/4 oz of weight in dead space under coal load
Weathered

That's it I think...

I'm going to try to model the locomotive after #4530 or #4533.  There are pretty good photos of those two locos, and their various details are more in line with the Bachmann model.  

BTW, if anyone can recommend a better photo sharing website than photobucket, I would greatly appreciate it.  That site has become so corrupted with pop ups and weird goings-on, it has become practically unusable.  Driving me nuts every time I try to upload or copy and paste a photo...

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: BaltoOhioRRfan on July 17, 2016, 09:24:05 AM
I use for Facebook for photos....and you forgot the Tender chassis ID....

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/1098386_586410978049029_82000348_n.jpg?oh=386583aa3e747339bfe40a3730ee37df&oe=57F40B99)

Also forgot the engine number on the Tender frame....also looks like you have 16,000 gallons, they held 10,000 gallons
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/1150310_586411011382359_342593315_n.jpg?oh=ef9bc9d9784b5f5e0c73603f40023d48&oe=582859C4)

Sorry I just had to :-P

I started doing some work on my <other manufacture> pacifics, one has a dang short in it now, probably oil got somewhere so that hopefully be an easy fix, other has a loose wire i gotta somehow repair.
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: BaltoOhioRRfan on July 17, 2016, 09:29:31 AM
also noticed your missing the tender foot plates, I'll see if i have a better picture of it, i know i do somewhere,

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10377019_725007720856020_2617300225258423857_n.jpg?oh=fd825c5acf44f8a719dbeb923c33ffcb&oe=57EC623A)

You can just see the on here....
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on July 17, 2016, 03:10:15 PM
I never saw the tender class number before. That's a good one.

I didn't do the foot boards because I'm doing the road version. It seems like the locomotives that had road pilots didn't have foot boards.

My gallons are marked as 10000... Just hard to see at that angle.

I waffled about the rear loco number. It seems like some steamers had a number there, and some didn't.

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: BaltoOhioRRfan on July 17, 2016, 05:21:44 PM
It was worth a shot haha. As for the engine number its there on all the clear images i've seen.
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on July 18, 2016, 06:34:46 PM
Cab is done... very similar to last one, except for the figures and loco number:

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0315_zpsxqrguuul.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0315_zpsxqrguuul.jpg.html)

On to upgrading the smokebox cover.  Appliances will be better placed this time... as well as the headlight being correct.

Having fun...

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on July 20, 2016, 05:15:48 PM
I like to test fit the pieces several times, as I continually add details:

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0317_zpsvghacsad.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0317_zpsvghacsad.jpg.html)

Just finished the smokebox.  The glue is still wet around the lens:

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0318_zpszsxzrxk1.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0318_zpszsxzrxk1.jpg.html)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0319_zpsyrknsqhs.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0319_zpsyrknsqhs.jpg.html)

Now on to the main event.

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: RAM on July 20, 2016, 07:52:06 PM
What, no eye protection for the crew.
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: rogertra on July 21, 2016, 01:30:02 AM
Quote from: RAM on July 20, 2016, 07:52:06 PM
What, no eye protection for the crew.

Bah!!!   That's what glass in the widows and wind defectors are for.  It's only modern day health and safelty requires those. ;D


Cheers


Roger T.

Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on July 21, 2016, 06:43:03 AM
I'm getting older.  I can no longer model eyeglasses and wedding rings in HO.  ;D

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on July 23, 2016, 01:10:44 PM
I'm close to being done.  Getting excited.

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0322_zpstcvdjq5b.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0322_zpstcvdjq5b.jpg.html)

Just ran out of handrail stanchions:

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0323_zps4vqxqrbi.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0323_zps4vqxqrbi.jpg.html)

Without the stanchions, I can't add the weight to the smokebox.

If I can't add the weight to the smokebox, I can't install the front.

If I can't install the front, I can't solder the light wires.

If I can't solder the light wires, I can't attach the shell.

If I can't attach the shell, I can't finish the locomotive.

The pig won't jump over the style, and I shan't get home tonight.

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on July 24, 2016, 11:30:04 AM
OK. We're coming down the home stretch...

Soldering the light wires. I put a little yellow paint on the + wires, just to keep them straight at the end of the build.
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0327_zpsrplh3t0t.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0327_zpsrplh3t0t.jpg.html)

Two 1/2oz slugs of lead go into the smokebox.  In case you're wondering, the locomotive's balance is too far back.  This is why I added most of the weight to the front.  Now the loco is balanced between the center two driver sets:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0326_zpsseei1loc.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0326_zpsseei1loc.jpg.html)

The steam and sand domes are filled with lead and epoxy:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0325_zpscp4softe.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0325_zpscp4softe.jpg.html)

Just a quick shot of the interior before I assemble everything:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0324_zpskklmg12l.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0324_zpskklmg12l.jpg.html)

Here's the inside of the cab.  Really hard to see once the tender is attached:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0329_zps78jmhdi4.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0329_zps78jmhdi4.jpg.html)

This photo shows some of the little changes I made to make this a little more B&O-like:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0332_zpsmgobs2dn.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0332_zpsmgobs2dn.jpg.html)

The boiler running boards angle down just before the cab on a B&O steamer.  So I did a little surgery.

Added a long grab above the cab window.

The locomotive came with the correct USRA trailing truck, but I had a brass one, so...

Added the long vertical grabs behind the cab.  They still need to be weathered.

Added a third pop valve between the two originals.  #4530 had a valve shield behind the pop valves.  I chose not to add the shield.  I like the way it looks without the shield.

I chose #4530 because this locomotive did not have the added brakeman's seat behind the fireman.  I've added that feature to other locomotives in the past.  It's easier to deal with tight radii with out the brakeman's hooch.

I still have some cleaning up to do, along with some minor tweaks here and there.

Will post some final shots soon.

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on July 24, 2016, 02:16:52 PM
OK. Some final shots...

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0338_zps8b2qqwh0.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0338_zps8b2qqwh0.jpg.html)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0340_zpsuohr3iub.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0340_zpsuohr3iub.jpg.html)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0339_zpsrzjdk9na.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0339_zpsrzjdk9na.jpg.html)


The modified reverse light is not as bright as the original, but it works well enough:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0334_zps8pfqa90m.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0334_zps8pfqa90m.jpg.html)

Regards,

Jonathan

Addendum:

While both locomotives run reasonably well on DC, I have found that all sound-equipped locomotives (no matter the brand) really need DCC to perform at their best. jv
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: J3a-614 on July 24, 2016, 11:38:38 PM
Beautiful final result as always!

I'm thinking of the impressive locomotive roster you must have by now, ranging from a vintage Dockside to an old Mantua 2-8-2 to a PFM brass 2-8-0 and rebuilt 0-8-0, modified Bachmann 2-8-0s,  several USRA 0-6-0s, at least one 4-6-2 and a 4-8-2, at least two EM-1s, and now more 2-8-2s, and all of them looking better as you go on. . .
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on July 25, 2016, 06:14:13 AM
Thanks, J3a!

My roster has gotten a little bit too large I think.  :)

I had to give the Bachmann USRA Mikes a try.  They are nice locomotives. They run as well as I thought they would.  As with ANY loco, from ANY manufacturer, they require a little tinkering.

The recently announced USRA Pacifics should be the same.  The only changes from the Mikes will be the wheel arrangement.  The boilers and tenders will be identical.  I suspect the motor, electronics, and gearing will be the same as well.

I'm not a great fan of modeling passenger service, but I may have to try one, just to compare with my Pacific from the other guys.

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jbrock27 on July 25, 2016, 06:52:51 AM
Jonathan, the level of detail that you impart on locos and rolling stock is definitely to be admired and envied.  You set the bar at a very high level, no question!  But, this following statement, which you have made before...

Quote from: jonathan on July 25, 2016, 06:14:13 AM
As with ANY loco, from ANY manufacturer, they require a little tinkering.

Regards,

Jonathan

...is simply untrue.  I'm not sure what motivates you to keep making such a statement, but not every manufacturer's locomotive requires tinkering with it to get it to run properly right out of the box.  If this is the level of detail you require to see on your Bachmann steam locomotives, then you are free to add them (obviously) like you so brilliantly do, but that is not the same as stating all locomotives from all manufactures require tinkering with.  
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on July 25, 2016, 07:38:36 AM
Jbrock,

Thanks for the kind words!  ;D

As for the tinkering part, we may have to agree to disagree on that one.  Perhaps a better term for me to use is "optimizing".  I own locomotives from 4 different plastic manufacturers, as well as a stable of brassies.  All of them, at a minimum, required an addition of weight (or rebalance) and minor fixes like wheel gage and/or squeaks, just as a couple of examples.

I am admittedly biased towards the Bachmann locos because they come in at a more economical price point and run just as well as the higher priced models, given a little TLC.

I will also admit that before I add any locomotive to my layout, I take it apart and look for things to improve upon. I can't help it.

I know there are some modern diesels that are near perfect out of the box.  My fellow club members will attest to that.  I don't have much experience with them.

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: West Bound on July 25, 2016, 11:42:45 AM
Excellent weathering, What do you use, powders? I use powders but they don't seem to be as detailed as yours. Do you use any kind of fixitive or just leave them exposed? I leave mine exposed so I can change them or remove them.
-John West
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jbrock27 on July 25, 2016, 12:55:28 PM
Quote from: jonathan on July 25, 2016, 07:38:36 AM
Jbrock,

Thanks for the kind words!  ;D

You are welcome; they're well deserved as I am certain all reading this would agree ;D

Quote from: jonathan on July 25, 2016, 07:38:36 AM
As for the tinkering part, we may have to agree to disagree on that one.

But we may not have to, as given this statement...

Quote from: jonathan on July 25, 2016, 07:38:36 AM
I know there are some modern diesels that are near perfect out of the box.  My fellow club members will attest to that.  I don't have much experience with them.

...it would appear to me that what you are really trying to say is that ANY manufacturers steam locomotive requires tinkering ("optimizing") to run properly.  If that indeed is what you are trying to convey, that is different, than simply stating  all inclusively that ANY locomotive is in such need, then I would have no disagreement with that statement and would certainly defer to you as I don't have much experience with them. ;)   To say otherwise, implies that no matter what or from where, someone buys, it will not run or "look" right, right out of the box.

And yes, it goes w/o stating that you are clearly biased toward Bachmann locos and do a wonderful job improving their looks and functionality.  Keep up the great work! :)
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on July 25, 2016, 01:28:17 PM
West Bound,

Thank you.

I use a combination.  Extreme weathering is dry-brushed on, usually with grimy black or gray enamel. I do this first.  Then I apply dullcote.  An example would be around the whistle area.  I like to dry-brush a healthy amount of gray around the whistle... also around the steam turret.

Second, I apply powders: soot and various shades of rust.  If there is too much weathering, I can wipe off and leave alone or reapply. I find the weathering mellows out over time, as I handle and operate the models.  The weathering goes over the whistle area's gray weathering so it's not quite as pronounced as when I first applied the gray.

For some reason, I like to leave bells, whistles and pop valves shiny.  This is not prototypical, obviously.  I just like the way it looks.  I also put very, very little weathering  on the smokebox front.  I put too much work into the headlight, classlights, grabs and such.  Can't bring myself to dirty them up.

Thanks again, Jbrock.  I'm getting what you are saying.  :)

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: rogertra on July 25, 2016, 09:01:35 PM
Jonathan.

If those 2-8-2s came that detailed as Spectrum models used to, I'd have half a dozen.

Excellent work.  Very well done.

Cheers

Roger t.

Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on July 26, 2016, 07:15:01 AM
Thanks, Roger!

I will be adding rerailer frogs to the models, just to finish them off.  I can't find any examples where the Q-3 had a poling pole... so no toothpicks this time.

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on July 29, 2016, 04:06:30 PM
OK, rerailers added.  This time, they are really done... 'nuff said.

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0343_zpsv2vobdjf.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0343_zpsv2vobdjf.jpg.html)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0342_zpsq3el0twz.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0342_zpsq3el0twz.jpg.html)

Regards,

Jonathan

Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: Trainman203 on July 31, 2016, 11:04:33 PM
Is it my imagination?  Or is the pilot really, really high off the rail?

Very nice weathering job.
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on August 01, 2016, 04:56:23 AM
Thank you very much.

The locomotive is sitting on a curve.  Causing the pilot to look a bit high.  It's an unintentional illusion.

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on February 20, 2017, 06:56:24 AM
Update on my Sound value Mikados:

I found a brass Hodges trailing truck, which is correct for the B&O version of the USRA Mikado (Q-3).

It was pricey ($39).  Must be gold, man.

Spent a great deal of time fitting this part to the 2-8-2.  Had to file away at the brass, and had to move some piping around on the locomotive:

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0477_zpsnpwefmsn.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0477_zpsnpwefmsn.jpg.html)

Also, the solder joints were broken... had to fix that.  Additionally, I shaped some lead and added it to the bottom of the support bracket:

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0489_LI_zps0q0s0hfj.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0489_LI_zps0q0s0hfj.jpg.html)

Because of the brass construction, I put a fiber washer above the mounting hole and between the mounting screw and the truck.  Don't know if shorting might be an issue, but better safe than sorry.

Here's what the loco looks like now:

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0490_zps4ylgcr9m.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0490_zps4ylgcr9m.jpg.html)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0495_zps7mcswtqx.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0495_zps7mcswtqx.jpg.html)

While I had the thing apart, I filled up the coal bunker, for looks and to add a little weight for tracking:

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSC_0496_zps0ttqyaqf.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/DSC_0496_zps0ttqyaqf.jpg.html)

This seems like the project that never ends.  :) The trailing truck is supposed to have 44" spoked wheels.  The search continues...

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: ebtnut on March 08, 2017, 02:24:17 PM
Hey Jonathon - I scored a Rivarossi Big Six at the show, and found an IHC heavy 2-10-2 on evil-bay.  Have you done/considered mating the Rivarossi shell to the IHC mech?  If so, any guidance/pitfalls I should look for?  I've gotten the boilers off both, but haven't yet begun work on the mechanism(s).  My hope is to take the cylinder block and valve gear set off the Rivarossi and mount it on the IHC.  I thought about keeping the IHC as is, but the crossheads are wrong and that bothers me.  I plan to swap out the tender trucks and replace the wheelset in the trailing truck so as to have all NMRA wheels. 
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on March 09, 2017, 06:28:53 AM
ebtnut,

The short answer is no, I have not taken on that project.  However, I have seen the successful results of others. All I know is the IHC mechanism very solid and reliable. 

I have considered this project, but I never found both locos for reasonable prices.  I think the dealers are aware of what can be done by marrying these to locos.  So... they price the locos accordingly. The Rivarossi version has been around almost as long as I have, yet still demands top dollar.

One would think a manufacturer would figure out the high demand for this locomotive and tool up a new one.

I have a brass version of this loco. Hardly ever pull it out of its stall.  For what I paid for it, I'm afraid to get any dust or dirt on it... a shame really.

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: West Bound on March 23, 2017, 02:24:15 PM
KUDOS Jonathan for your article in the the latest issue of B&O Historical Society's Modeler Magazine showing your upgrades to the 2-8-2 B&O.
Title: Re: USRA 2-8-2 Mikado Sound Value
Post by: jonathan on March 24, 2017, 06:17:16 AM
https://www.borhs.org/modelermag/Modeler-43-201703.pdf

Thank you, sir!

It was a fun project. These upgrade projects are one of my favorite things to do in the hobby.  It's also great there are outlets to share, like here and a nice e'zine.

Next project is upgrading the Bachmann F7A and F7B DCC Ready Diesels.  I've read they are great pullers... just need some details (and a decoder) to make them stand out.

Regards,

Jonathan

Addendum:

This mag (link above) also had some good things to say about the Bachmann USRA Mikado AND the Bachmann USRA Pacific, in case anyone is curious.  :)