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Title: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: aussie geoff on January 05, 2017, 02:50:48 AM
Happy New Year to all . Has anybody information about this years ( 2017 ) upcoming ON30 annual ?   ;)

Geoff
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: p51 on January 05, 2017, 07:46:58 PM
It's not even being edited yet. I submitted an article to this one, and the editor told me he was starting editing this month and it goes to the printer in mid-March (and the print dates usually are hard timeframes for most publications). The first ones go out to the pre-order folks.
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: Royce Wilson on January 15, 2017, 02:59:45 PM
It is ready because I have mine coming in the mail!.

Royce ;D
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: John Tumolo on January 20, 2017, 03:06:55 PM
Orders are now being taken for the new 2017 edition.  I just ordered mine at https://shop.whiteriverproductions.com/products/on17
I just wish it came out more than once a year................

John Tumolo  Britcarfan@aol.com
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: Flare on January 20, 2017, 03:18:06 PM
Quote from: John Tumolo on January 20, 2017, 03:06:55 PM
I just wish it came out more than once a year................


If it did they'd have to change its name.
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: jkemp on January 20, 2017, 10:08:44 PM
Thanks for the heads up.

I just got mine ordered also.

USD $18 if ordered prior to April
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: p51 on January 23, 2017, 01:31:53 PM
Quote from: John Tumolo on January 20, 2017, 03:06:55 PM
Orders are now being taken for the new 2017 edition.  I just ordered mine at https://shop.whiteriverproductions.com/products/on17
Cool, my layout is the "Tweetsie-Inspired On30 Layout" mentioned in the highlights!  :)
Quote from: John Tumolo on January 20, 2017, 03:06:55 PM
I just wish it came out more than once a year................
Yeah, a quarterly would be great for folks like us, but in all fairness I doubt there'd be that big a market for it. On30 is, like it or not, a fringe element among the hobby itself.
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: jkemp on February 27, 2017, 06:58:31 PM
Just a follow up on this thread.

I just looked over the announcement page here:

https://shop.whiteriverproductions.com/products/on17

If there is an estimated ship date, I am overlooking it.

Wondering if anyone has the estimated ship date for this?

Thank you,
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: p51 on February 27, 2017, 07:50:21 PM
I wouldn't hold my breath. I haven't even heard any info on proofs or how far along in editing they are right now...
You'll see them soon, but I wouldn't think very soon.
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: JerryB on February 27, 2017, 08:09:28 PM
I ordered mine about a week ago. I was told it would be sent in April.

Jerry
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: jkemp on February 27, 2017, 11:08:23 PM
Quote from: JerryB on February 27, 2017, 08:09:28 PM
I ordered mine about a week ago. I was told it would be sent in April.

Jerry

Thank you Jerry.

I had no idea when it would be officially released.
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: p51 on February 28, 2017, 11:33:12 AM
I just emailed Chris last night. He said the proof of my article should be emailed to me next week. So, that clearly means he's still putting the thing together. But in this digital age, once he's done, he only has to transmit the annual to the printer, however he does that.
But seeing that we're talking about the first week in March now, I wouldn't bet on people getting them until the very end of the coming month, at the absolute earliest.
I assume when I get my author copy, it should go out with the first batch. If people aren't already posting by then that they've gotten theirs, I'll post that I got mine, so the rest can assume they'll be getting them soon after.
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: p51 on March 16, 2017, 06:32:59 PM
Heard from Chris today. He's still editing, I should get the proof of my article soon.
He said that there were three ET&WNC-themed articles in this annual, which I'm very happy to hear mine is one! The others are a guide on modeling ET&WNC coaches (no idea who write that) and another on passenger service by ET&WNC guru Johnny Graybeal.
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: Royce Wilson on March 17, 2017, 03:59:22 PM
I just called the Gazette to inquire about my late Jan/Feb issue and found out the 2017 On30 mag will mail in April.
'It will be worth it!.


Royce
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: p51 on March 17, 2017, 07:54:50 PM
Quote from: Royce Wilson on March 17, 2017, 03:59:22 PM
I just called the Gazette to inquire about my late Jan/Feb issue and found out the 2017 On30 mag will mail in April.
Seeing that the editor hasn't cleared many of the articles with the authors yet, I wouldn't bet my life on that timeframe.
I hope they're right, as I want to see the finished version as much as the rest of you. More so, probably.
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: Royce Wilson on March 18, 2017, 09:36:08 AM
maybe it going to be a 2018 annual.

Royce
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: p51 on March 20, 2017, 11:24:10 AM
I was at Winterail 2017 this past weekend and there was a White River rep there. She swore the annual would go out in April.
I'm not saying she's wrong, but the editor is still working on stuff and I have yet to see a proof. I'm not sure how they'll get it finished, printed and shipped in such a short timeframe, but once it's ready, it wouldn't take long to print it, I guess...
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: ksivils on March 20, 2017, 08:54:35 PM
My side-hustle is writing non-fiction books. The minute the editor is done, the magazine can be printed in probably less than 12 hours later.

Most people don't realize this, but unless the book you order from Amazon has super high demand and warrants a traditional press run or has special requirements, i.e. hard cover, lots of photos, glossy paper (typical rail history book), the paperback books you order do not exist physically when you hit purchase.

A technology called print-on-demand receives the order and the book gets printed and shipped to you. This allows a lot of niche market books to be printed and sold that otherwise could not justify the cost of a press run.

My point in stating this is to show has printing technology has changed. Yes, I am sure this will be an off-set color press run. The point is, printing technology is very different now from what it was even a few years ago.

I send in my files (cover and interior) and I get a proof copy in about three days.

I guess we'll find out when we get our annuals in the mail.
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: p51 on March 21, 2017, 11:17:47 AM
Quote from: ksivils on March 20, 2017, 08:54:35 PMI send in my files (cover and interior) and I get a proof copy in about three days.
Well, I sent in my photos and article in January, and I still haven't seen the proof yet.
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: jkemp on March 21, 2017, 11:16:16 PM
http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php/topic,33005.0.html

No additional insight, just making sure everyone is aware of the other on30 annual thread.

Thanks,
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: p51 on March 29, 2017, 11:27:51 AM
Just got the proof for my article last night. There were some corrections, but nothing big. I was advised the copy was going to the printer in about a week.
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: Royce Wilson on March 29, 2017, 01:24:36 PM
I still have not received my Jan/Feb Gazette after inquiring twice ,hope the Annual has better luck.


Royce
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: charon on March 29, 2017, 03:15:32 PM
Royce, hate to tell you this, but l just got my March/April Gazette.
Chuck
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: Royce Wilson on March 30, 2017, 03:44:51 PM
When did you get your Mar/Apr Gazette?. I still live in that black hole I guess I would do better buying them off Ebay.

Royce
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: JerryB on March 30, 2017, 04:14:05 PM
I've had my Mar. / Apr. NG&SL Gazette for about a week.

Possible your NG&SL Gazette sub got lost or corrupted in the takeover.

Why not call White River Productions? They publish a number of model RR products, and have always been very helpful with any questions.

Phone number for Subscription Inquires is:

877-787-2467
or
660-695-4433

Hope this helps, and Happy (well read) RRing,

Jerry
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: charon on March 30, 2017, 04:56:31 PM
Royce,
I too, received my mar/apr Gazette early this week.
Chuck
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: p51 on May 04, 2017, 02:22:08 PM
The On30 Annual has been shipped. Just heard from a pal of mine in Florida who got his copy in the mail today.  ;D
Haven't gotten mine yet (I ordered a few extras for obvious reasons, due to my layout article being in it), but I expect it any day now.
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: jkemp on May 04, 2017, 08:46:22 PM
I received mine in the mail today also.

I have only gone thru it once (quickly), but it looks to be another great annual with lots of good stuff.
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: Anubis on May 05, 2017, 12:48:28 AM
Great!

That means we'll see ours, here in Oz, around about mid-winter......(July)


It doesn't pay to be in too much of a hurry.......


John

:)
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: mabloodhound on May 06, 2017, 11:45:46 AM
Got my copy today.
I had pre-ordered in March, just before the closing date so they must be all caught up on the pre-orders.

Lot of good reading in this issue and some good ideas.
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: p51 on May 08, 2017, 07:43:45 PM
I have been told the Annual has been seen on the shelves of Whistle Stop trains in Portland, Oregon.
Many authors have their copies as do most (if not all) pre-orders.
Mine showed up today.
I don't think I've ever seen anyone taking photos of a magazine alongside the real layout, so I figured, why not?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/willysmb44/On30/AnnualPage2_zpsj0kpvih9.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/willysmb44/On30/AnnualPage1_zpsyezlqvm3.jpg)
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: Terry Toenges on May 09, 2017, 07:50:47 PM
I got mine today. When they feature layouts, I wish they would show a track plan or a long shot on all of them so you can get an idea what the whole thing looks like.
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: p51 on May 10, 2017, 12:15:01 PM
Quote from: Terry Toenges on May 09, 2017, 07:50:47 PM
I got mine today. When they feature layouts, I wish they would show a track plan or a long shot on all of them so you can get an idea what the whole thing looks like.
I agree that I, too, was wondering what some of them looked like overall. But the track plans are submitted with the articles, so it's up to the writers.
I did one with my layout article, though. They reproduced it very small but you still can get the idea.
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: Terry Toenges on May 10, 2017, 02:04:10 PM
P51 - Are you Rich?   Even though it's a small pic, I can still tell what it is. I can look at the photos and see where they relate to the layout as a whole.  Neat job you have done with it.
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: p51 on May 10, 2017, 05:30:12 PM
Quote from: Terry Toenges on May 10, 2017, 02:04:10 PM
P51 - Are you Rich?   Even though it's a small pic, I can still tell what it is. I can look at the photos and see where they relate to the layout as a whole.  Neat job you have done with it.
Unsure of the context for the first question. The answer is either: No, I'm middle class or, No, my name is Lee
As for the shots, thanks. I was reading through the magazine for the first time, sitting in my layout room, when it occurred to me that I'd never seen photos of someone reading a model train magazine about a layout while standing in/adjacent to it. So I went even further with that idea.
This is the first real layout I ever built and the first article I've ever had printed in any model train publication (I've been printed plenty of time in military history magazines over the years, though).
I already have the idea for an article for the 2018 Annual which Chris Lane (the editor) gave the thumbs up for.
I also intend on doing a first-person article on my layout as if in the perspective of someone who'd been there in the 1940s.
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: Terry Toenges on May 10, 2017, 07:09:43 PM
Sorry. I thought the article was by Rich White. Maybe I'd better look again. And Duh. I see your railroad is in your signature. Silly me.
Title: Re: 2017 ON30 annual magazine
Post by: p51 on May 10, 2017, 07:19:48 PM
Quote from: Terry Toenges on May 10, 2017, 07:09:43 PM
Sorry. I thought the article was by Rich White.
Ah. He did a good job on his, liked the article and his modeling.