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Title: Bachmann 25127 Christmas Closed Street Car adding DCC
Post by: fred60188 on June 29, 2017, 11:21:25 AM
Friends, I have a Bachmann 25127 Christmas Closed Street Car that I want to add DCC.
If you have experience with this can you suggest;
* a decoder that;
   - fits well (possibly describe how and where to mount)
   - is of the proper current for this Street Car
   - has sound capabilities for this era streetcar.
   - can control front, rear and in car lights.
There seems to very little info on the net.
This is a great Streetcar for a Christmas village and adding DCC puts it over the top.
Thank you for any help you can provide.


Title: Re: Bachmann 25127 Christmas Closed Street Car adding DCC
Post by: Terry Toenges on June 29, 2017, 02:18:46 PM
If you don't want to do it yourself, I had Tony's Train Exchange put a decoder in my On30 trolley. I didn't get sound.  Since it was just going to run on a Christmas layout with music playing, I figured the sound wasn't worth it to me.
It cost about $104 to get it done without the sound. I can't remember what they quoted me for sound. It seems like it was closer to $200.
https://tonystrains.com/tonys-dcc-installations/ (https://tonystrains.com/tonys-dcc-installations/)
These were the charges -
1.00 instdecdiesel Labor to Install Dec             $69.95
1.00 esulokpilot 54610 LokPilot V4.0,              $33.12
Multiprotocol MM,DCC,SX, 8pin
Plug NEM652, Cable
                                                             Total 103.07


Title: Re: Bachmann 25127 Christmas Closed Street Car adding DCC
Post by: fred60188 on July 03, 2017, 12:08:12 PM
Thanks for responding.
I'd like to try this myself.
I just added a DCC Tsunami 2 decoder to a Kato HO Chicago Metra F40PH.
That went surprisingly well.


Title: Re: Bachmann 25127 Christmas Closed Street Car adding DCC
Post by: Flare on July 04, 2017, 09:30:29 PM
I'm planning to convert my streetcar as well, I imagine it won't be too hard with a small decoder like the Digitrax DZ126T.

http://www.digitrax.com/products/mobile-decoders/dz126t/

I haven't removed the body from my streetcar in a long time, but as I recall there should be enough room in motor area to hold that decoder.

I'm just hesitant to open the body to alter the lighting, it looks so clean as it is.


Title: Re: Bachmann 25127 Christmas Closed Street Car adding DCC
Post by: dutchbuilder on July 05, 2017, 06:00:39 AM
It is quit simple to convert to DCC.
De-solder the black and red wire and don't forget to remove the 100nF capacitor.
Be careful not to touch the plastic with the soldering iron.
The chassis is now ready to receive a small decoder.

Ton


Title: Re: Bachmann 25127 Christmas Closed Street Car adding DCC
Post by: fred60188 on July 10, 2017, 09:56:40 AM
Flare, think about replacing the bulbs in the ceiling with 12VDC 3mm LED's. No resistors.
The existing light board will have to go of course and connection made to the decoder.


Title: Re: Bachmann 25127 Christmas Closed Street Car adding DCC
Post by: fred60188 on October 30, 2017, 01:56:13 AM
I was successful with installing a Digitrax  SDXH166D.
I loaded the Digitrax Traction-V1 sound project in to the SDXH166H with a Digitrax PR3 decoder programmer. I made small simple modifications to the Traction-V1 sound project to turn off the compressor and whistle. I used two squared off Red & White 12vdc LED's glued together on both ends to get Red & white lamps on both ends depending on travel. I kept the 12v incandescent lights in the cab as these were nice and bright.
I did my best to hide everything under the floor boards and used double sided tape to hold it all down. The square speaker that comes with the SDXH166D is mounted in the center of the car on top of the floor boards. I'M not too happy with where I mounted the speaker, having the speaker wires exposed and only having tape holding down the floorboard. It works and the sound is good but low volume. I would post pictures but I haven't been successful with attaching them here. It will be great to have this trolley on the Christmas layout this year. Thanks.