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Title: Pilot rail installation
Post by: SERABILL on July 01, 2017, 05:37:50 AM
On the 4-6-0 anniversary edition, there are small screws holding the pilot rail to the pilot. How do you install those little screws? A nut driver would be good but I can't figure out what size I would need. I'm afraid that using needle nose pliers would result in the screws flying all over the room.
Title: Re: Pilot rail installation
Post by: BillBrakeman on July 02, 2017, 03:38:51 PM
Those screws are very small.  For that size of screw I use a pair of fine, curved tipped tweezers to hold it in place while starting it with a screw driver.  For larger, but still small, screws I use a tool which Micro-Mark calls a "Grabber" and Kadee calls a "Five Prong Gripper" which allows you to grab the screw by the end and start it.  I then finish up with a jeweler's screwdriver.

I just went to the Micro-Mark site http://www.micromark.com/mini-hand-tools/tweezers-grabbers?order=onlinecustomerprice:desc&show=48 (http://www.micromark.com/mini-hand-tools/tweezers-grabbers?order=onlinecustomerprice:desc&show=48) and found thirty items that might interest you.

Bill
Title: Re: Pilot rail installation
Post by: SERABILL on July 02, 2017, 04:21:16 PM
Thanks. My concearn is that any if these devices would be prone to dropping the screw. Soemwhere, there has to be a nut driver that fits those screws. I don't know how much a jewlers screwdriver would be since there are no slots on the screws. They are all hex head.
Title: Re: Pilot rail installation
Post by: Hunt on July 02, 2017, 09:22:55 PM
SERABILL,

The  4-6-0 Large Scale Anniversary Locomotive and its exploded diagram I have seen

This is the screw used

(http://estore.bachmanntrains.com/images/LargeScale_parts/900XX-00011.JPG)
                        Phillips Oval #1 Screw

Use a #1 Phillips screwdriver with magnetized head.


Title: Re: Pilot rail installation
Post by: SERABILL on July 02, 2017, 09:43:31 PM
The obes that I have have hex heads. I see what you mean in the picture but Bachmann sent me the rails with hex head screws.
Title: Re: Pilot rail installation
Post by: Hunt on July 02, 2017, 10:31:54 PM
If this is what you have

(http://estore.bachmanntrains.com/images/MTC31-32-2.JPG)

I had connecting pilot in mind so disregard my first reply.





Title: Re: Pilot rail installation
Post by: SERABILL on July 02, 2017, 11:58:06 PM
This is what I have http://estore.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=66_69_623&products_id=8430

I don't know how to paste a picture here
Title: Re: Pilot rail installation
Post by: Tony Walsham on July 03, 2017, 06:01:43 AM
So that kit is called a Pilot Rail set.
I thought they were called smokebox stays.
You live and learn.
Title: Re: Pilot rail installation
Post by: Hunt on July 03, 2017, 07:22:55 AM
(http://estore.bachmanntrains.com/images/LargeScale_parts/810XX-MTC14-15-G.JPG)
     Pilot Rail Set – Gold  810XX-MTC14-15-G
     Left and Right Cowcatcher Rail and 4x Screw 10402

Parts update??  as an Large Scale 4-6-0 Anniversary Locomotive (from 2006 production run)  in front of me has 2 vey small black Philips flat head screws in each gold Cowcatcher Rail.  These screws can be removed with Philips #0 screwdriver. I know - this is no help for you!.




Title: Re: Pilot rail installation
Post by: SERABILL on July 03, 2017, 02:07:42 PM
You're right about it being no help. I must have gotten old parts when I ordered them a few weeks ago. I solved the problem by putting the original rails on the new chassis. Thanks for your help and comments.
Title: Re: Pilot rail installation
Post by: Hunt on July 04, 2017, 03:55:35 PM
Yardmaster,

Bachmann often changes a product without changing its Product Item number (the online catalog uses term Model for Item)

What is the current Head Type spec for 900XX-10402 Screw?
http://estore.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=66_69_623&products_id=4802
Title: Re: Pilot rail installation
Post by: Hunt on July 05, 2017, 04:41:29 PM
Quote from: Hunt on July 03, 2017, 07:22:55 AM
(http://estore.bachmanntrains.com/images/LargeScale_parts/810XX-MTC14-15-G.JPG)
     Pilot Rail Set – Gold  810XX-MTC14-15-G
     Left and Right Cowcatcher Rail and 4x Screw 10402

Parts update??  as a Large Scale 4-6-0 Anniversary Locomotive (from 2006 production run)  in front of me has 2 very small black Phillips flat head screws in each gold Cowcatcher Rail.  These screws can be removed with Phillips #0 screwdriver. I know - this is no help for you.

An aside ---
After checking -- I find a screwdriver with Phillips #00 tip is better to use than #0.