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Title: Adding weight to tankers
Post by: rstroud on December 08, 2017, 09:35:49 AM
Whats the best way to add weight to tankers and still keep it hidden?


Title: Re: Adding weight to tankers
Post by: jonathan on December 08, 2017, 10:18:42 AM
When disassembled, most tank car models have some sort of opening in the bottom.  If yours doesn't, you can cut, or file, a slot in the bottom which would be hidden once attached to the frame.  I like to slip pennies inside the tank for added weight.  If the penny-rattle is bothersome, one can also squeeze in a little glue.  Then wait for the glue to dry before re-assembly.

I build kits. Thus, I like to add the extra weight before attaching the frame to the tank. 

Just a thought...

Regards,

Jonathan


Title: Re: Adding weight to tankers
Post by: rstroud on December 08, 2017, 10:40:53 AM
Sort of what I was thinking....some say lead shot, but I do not have any....maybe could use BBs? ...and glue.


Title: Re: Adding weight to tankers
Post by: Trainman203 on December 08, 2017, 11:24:41 AM
If you can get the tank open , you can glue in nuts from the hardware store as an alternative.  These are often included in craftsman type boxcar kits for weight,  there’s no reason that the correct sized and weight nut  couldn’t be used here as well.  They weigh more than a penny, but you could use pennies to fine tune the final weight.


Title: Re: Adding weight to tankers
Post by: Trainman203 on December 08, 2017, 11:26:30 AM
The better term is “tank car”.  “Tanker” is the term that uninformed news reporters use.


Title: Re: Adding weight to tankers
Post by: rstroud on December 08, 2017, 12:13:32 PM
I say tanker...who cares...please don't start with the political correctness bs here...no one really cares.


Title: Re: Adding weight to tankers
Post by: Len on December 08, 2017, 12:34:01 PM
Tanker:
(http://wearethemighty.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/5392511279_22b6f49bde_o.jpg)

Tank car:
(https://www.aldonco.com/images/category/tankCarSafety.jpg)

 ;D ;D
Len


Title: Re: Adding weight to tankers
Post by: rstroud on December 08, 2017, 01:08:47 PM
That is a military Tank....not tanker....if youre not here to provide help,then dont bother posting


Title: Re: Adding weight to tankers
Post by: Trainman203 on December 08, 2017, 07:27:52 PM
No offense or political correctness intended.  Tank car is what they call them in the railroad business.  Tanker is what I see tank cars called on the news when there’s a derailment somewhere.


Title: Re: Adding weight to tankers
Post by: Flare on December 08, 2017, 07:38:25 PM
"Two days ago, I saw a rig that'd haul that tanker."  -The Road Warrior.


Title: Re: Adding weight to tankers
Post by: rstroud on December 09, 2017, 02:19:11 AM
Does it really matter??? I was asking legitimate advice on weighting and in turn you want to give me an English lesson. No matter what kind of forum I have ever visited, there's always the trolls that take the discussion into crap with nonsense.


Title: Re: Adding weight to tankers
Post by: Len on December 09, 2017, 02:38:02 AM
That is a military Tank....not tanker....if youre not here to provide help,then dont bother posting

The "tanker" is the guy sitting on top of the Abrams. And the  ;D ;D above my sig were and indication my post was a joke.

Apparently you don't like jokes, so I'll just point out if you'd bothered to use the "SEARCH" function near the top of the page, you'd have found your question about weighting a tank car has been asked and answered numerous times in the past. By myself and numerous others on the forum.

Len


Title: Re: Adding weight to tankers
Post by: rstroud on December 10, 2017, 03:55:09 AM
...and if you'd just answer the question or otherwise stay silent, we'd all be better off


Title: Re: Adding weight to tankers
Post by: WoundedBear on December 10, 2017, 09:49:55 AM
Does it really matter??? I was asking legitimate advice on weighting and in turn you want to give me an English lesson. No matter what kind of forum I have ever visited, there's always the trolls that take the discussion into crap with nonsense.

Wow............some one needs a little thicker skin. ::)

The group is just having a little fun.......untwist your panties and you may learn something.

Sid


Title: Re: Adding weight to tankers
Post by: rstroud on December 11, 2017, 02:04:30 AM
Not at all in any twist...just find no humor in anyone trying to correct someone's terminology, spelling, English, etc unless it directly pertains to the questions asked. There is enough political correctness going around everywhere to make me puke.


Title: Re: Adding weight to tankers
Post by: Trainman203 on December 12, 2017, 02:16:13 PM
My mistake.  And my sincere apology.  Wasn’t intended at all as a “correction “ but that’s how it was perceived, and perception is everything in any interaction.

If it had been me , I would have wanted and enjoyed receiving more information about railroading and an addition to my railroad vocabulary . But not everyone is like me.  I’ll take that into account in the future.


Title: Re: Adding weight to tankers
Post by: rstroud on January 07, 2018, 11:59:19 PM
I do appreciate the info and/or advice, but starting out with a language lesson wasn't necessary and is childish in my opinion. Tanker/Tank Car...everyone knows what the reference was and it really depends on which region you live in as to which term some may use.


Title: Re: Adding weight to tankers
Post by: Trainman203 on January 08, 2018, 11:36:04 AM
Your opinion is only your opinion, stroud.  You may think whatever you wish.  I’m way too old to get my feelings hurt one way or another.

I was not intending to offer a language lesson at all.  I’m speaking from over 50 years of being around the prototype.  Tank cars were always called tank cars.  By everyone in the industry I ever talked to about them in all those years, from train crews to management.  Regionality has nothing to do with it.  That is a fact.  If you don’t like that, it’s totally fine with me.  I’m not arguing with you or correcting you at all, just stating a fact.  Call them whatever you want.


Title: Re: Adding weight to tankers
Post by: Len on January 08, 2018, 11:47:41 AM
Trainman - Agreed. I was a chemical operator for Pfizer 'back when', and had to deal with filling and unloading tank cars. Everyone in the plant, even if they had nothing to do with the rail operations, called them tank cars.

Len


Title: Re: Adding weight to tankers
Post by: Trainman203 on January 08, 2018, 12:33:45 PM
BTW, if anyone sees anything needing correction in anything I post here, I welcome it.  Even at my advanced age , I enjoy learning.


Title: Re: Adding weight to tankers
Post by: Terry Toenges on January 08, 2018, 01:59:26 PM
Since I try to practice economy of verbiage, I'd probably called them tankers since it has one less letter and no spaces. ;D


Title: Re: Adding weight to tankers
Post by: Jhanecker2 on January 08, 2018, 07:38:30 PM
No offense Gentlemen  a tanker has been a ship for much longer and still is . John2 .


Title: Re: Adding weight to tankers
Post by: Trainman203 on January 09, 2018, 12:27:02 AM
That brings up an interesting question.... when “was” the first “tanker?”  I think the first “tank cars “ beyond vats on flat cars might have been the 1890’s.


Title: Re: Adding weight to tankers
Post by: Terry Toenges on January 09, 2018, 11:33:38 AM
Apparently it was the late 1860's. It says by 1866, oil haulers were using vertical Densmore tanks then a year later switched to the horizontal ones.
https://aoghs.org/transportation/densmore-oil-tank-car/ (https://aoghs.org/transportation/densmore-oil-tank-car/)
Another site -
http://www.petroleumhistory.org/OilHistory/pages/TankCars/Evolution.html (http://www.petroleumhistory.org/OilHistory/pages/TankCars/Evolution.html)



Title: Re: Adding weight to tankers
Post by: jward on January 13, 2018, 10:50:05 AM
Back to the original question.
I've found that HO tankers are big enough that you can use pennies as weights, The Bachmann 3 dome car has an interior saddle type frame that the tank body fits over, and you can glue the pennies vertically in the saddle. I've found that 5 cents in each end brings the car up to NMRA weight.


Title: Re: Adding weight to tankers
Post by: Trainman203 on January 14, 2018, 05:59:21 PM
Repeat: tank car is the industry calls those cars.  Tanker is what non industry people call them.  Fact.  Sorry.


Title: Re: Adding weight to tankers
Post by: jward on January 14, 2018, 06:13:20 PM
Don't y'all think that the argument over what to call those cars has detracted from the posts that actually HELP the guy?


Title: Re: Adding weight to tankers
Post by: Trainman203 on January 14, 2018, 06:18:25 PM
I gave several helpful tips early. And I don’t think it’s an argument.  Industry call them something, the public calls them something else.