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Title: Brass Gears
Post by: Joe Zullo on December 12, 2017, 10:58:26 AM
Which Bachmann locos have ALL brass gears?  ???


Title: Re: Brass Gears
Post by: Loco Bill Canelos on December 12, 2017, 01:23:59 PM
Hi Joe,

I was told the metal gears are not brass, but I do not know what metal they are.  These are the ones I know about:  latest version 6 Anniversary 4-6-0; latest Spectrum 2-6-0 (not the Indy);The c-19;The latest Standard Line 2-4-2.

Also I am not sure that the axle gears are metal. The info on some of the above state all metal gearbox, not necessarily the axle gears. I have never taken apart my Version 6 Annie to see if the axle gears are also metal. The c-19 info says all the gears are metal.

Personally I have never liked brass gears.  all my early HO scale models with brass gears wore out so bad that the teeth would not mesh anymore.

I can say that my Version 6 Annie and my C-19 have performed flawlessly, and so far I have had no problems with the metal gears.  My 4 Annies with the plastic gears have also performed flawlessly two in service since they came out in 2000.

Hopefully others will respond with better info than mine.

Take care.

Bill









Title: Re: Brass Gears
Post by: armorsmith on December 12, 2017, 10:38:15 PM
It has been some time since I have had my K27 open, but if memory is holding up, I believe the worm is steel and the gear is brass. If you maintain the proper lubrication on the gears, they will last a very long time. These kinds of drives are used in every thing from copiers to rock crushers that work 24/7/365 crushing hundreds of tons of rock a day. Quite honestly Bill, your comments indicate to me that they were either not properly lubricated or not properly installed (gear mesh was off).


Title: Re: Brass Gears
Post by: Greg Elmassian on December 13, 2017, 01:29:42 PM
I believe the latest chassis for the big hauler / annie is the same, brass worm gear, steel worm.

Greg


Title: Re: Brass Gears
Post by: Loco Bill Canelos on December 13, 2017, 08:22:16 PM
Hi All,

All the "Big Hauler" 4-6-0's have plastic gears Version 2 thru Version 5, none were made with metal gears.  All set locomotives have plastic gears.

These are the only 4-6-0's with the metal gears(Version 6 chassis with new pilot truck). These are the Annie's that were introduced in 2011 with the 916xx product numbers. The Version 6 chassis gear box is the same as the version 5 gearbox, the only difference is the metal gears in the Version 6:

91601   EBT   10   2011   ~ Loco   4-6-0 Annie  East Broad Top            Ver 6 Metal Gears
91602   D&RGW   178   2011   ~ Loco   4-6-0 Annie  Denver & Rio Grande Western            Ver 6 Metal Gears
91603   RGS   25   2011   ~ Loco   4-6-0 Annie  Rio Grande Southern            Ver 6 Metal Gears
91604   SPC   22   2011   ~ Loco   4-6-0 Annie  South Pacific Coast            Ver 6 Metal Gears
91605   D&RG   10   2011   ~ Loco   4-6-0 Annie  Denver & Rio Grande  Ver 6            Ver 6 Metal Gears
91606   ET&WNC   11   2011   ~ Loco   4-6-0 Annie  Denver & Rio Grande Western            Ver 6 Metal Gears
91607   none   none   2011   ~ Loco   4-6-0 Annie painted unlettered Black            Ver 6 Metal Gears
91608   D&RGW   168   2016   ~ Loco   4-6-0 Annie Bumble Bee            Ver 6 Metal Gears
91609   None   None   2016   ~ Loco   4-6-0 Annie painted unlettered Black            Ver 6 Metal Gears



All the early Annie's with the 81xxx series product numbers below have the version 5 chassis with the plastic gears here is the list:

81088   D&RGW   178   2005   ~ Loco   4-6-0, 10th aniv, Denver & Rio Grande Western
81092   PRR   9660   2002   ~ Loco   4-6-0, 10th aniv, Pennsylvania Ver 5
81093   EBT   10   2002   ~ Loco   4-6-0, 10th aniv, East Broad Top Ver 5
81094   RGS   25   2002   ~ Loco   4-6-0, 10th aniv, Rio Grande Southern Ver 5
81095   SPC   21   2000   ~ Loco   4-6-0, 10tn aniv, South Pacific Coast Ver 5
81096   WP&Y   10   2000   ~ Loco   4-6-0, 10th aniv, White Pass & Yukon Ver 5
81097   D&RG   12   2000   ~ Loco   4-6-0, 10th aniv, Denver & Rio Grande Ver 5
81098   ET&WNC   12   2000   ~ Loco   4-6-0, 10th aniv, ET&WNC Ver 5
81099   None   None   2000   ~ Loco   4-6-0, 10th aniv, painted unlettered Ver 5

Bottom line is that if you want a 4-6-0 be sure you are getting an Annie in the 916xx product number series.  Do not just assume buying an Annie you will get one with the metal gears.  




Title: Re: Brass Gears
Post by: Joe Zullo on December 13, 2017, 08:30:06 PM
Thanks for the list Bill. Very helpful. :D


Title: Re: Brass Gears
Post by: Loco Bill Canelos on December 13, 2017, 11:54:37 PM
Glad to help out Joe, I also forgot to mention the Version 6 Annies are sold out at Bachmann and about gone at Trainworld.  The only version 6 Trainworld has  left is the 91603 and the price is pretty good.  I would hope Bachmann would re run them, but you never know. 

Bill