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Title: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: Jon D. Miller on December 19, 2008, 06:57:36 PM
My dealer just called.  His order of Mallets arrived this afternoon.

I'm on the way out the door to pick one up for the CD&StL.  No doubt the shop crew will be standing by awaiting its arrival on the property.  Might be working late tonight. ;)

Will post a couple of pictures tomorrow.

Now Larry, Moe, and Curley along with the "Amen Choir" will have something to keep them busy, over the Holidays, as they "evaluate" the new locomoitve. That should be entertaining! ;D


One of the "Enthusiastic Children"

JD



Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: az2rail on December 19, 2008, 10:54:41 PM
Lucky you!!! I called my dealer and they are expecting them, but no show as of yet. It may not arive in time for christmas, but a belated christmas present is better than none.

Bruce


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: Superheater on December 20, 2008, 09:24:55 AM
How fortuante for you, Jon.  You may very well be the only one in these United States to have one before the holiday, which of course one would expect might be a reward for all that "enthusiasm."

As to Larry Moe and Curley, you might check the definition of "Stooge" carefully before you go throwing it about, lest it hit too close to home.

Happy Holidays,

John Fitch


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: Paul W. on December 20, 2008, 09:50:33 AM
JD,
That's great news! Can't wait to see the pics. Guess we know which of Santa's lists you are on this year  ;D


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: tac on December 20, 2008, 10:32:59 AM
Here in UK, a gentleman on gscalemad forum collected his two mallets last monday.

Makes a change to get things before you guys!

tac
www.ovgrs.org


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: Jon D. Miller on December 20, 2008, 05:13:18 PM
First photos of the new Mallet at CD&StL's AJ Yard.

(http://www.largescaleonline.com/eimages/lsolpics/Team_Member_Pics/jlsrails/Steam_Locomotives/Steam_Locomotive/100_5028.jpg)

(http://www.largescaleonline.com/eimages/lsolpics/Team_Member_Pics/jlsrails/Steam_Locomotives/Steam_Locomotive/100_5032.jpg)

The new Mallet was operated for about two hours this afernoon.  Right out of the box, after lubrication, the 2-6-6-2 is a smooth runner.  Handled a thirteen car mixed consist with ease.


You know John, I really appreciate your admonishment.  Must be that as a member of the "Choir" you take exception. ;)


Don't think having one of the first 2-6-6-2 Mallets has anything to do with "enthusiasm."  Has more to do with having a pre standing order with my dealer and his distributor for any Bachmann Spectrum locomotive that is announced.  Two of the new 2-6-6-2 Mallets were delivered yesterdy by my dealer.


One of the "Enthusiastic Children"

JD


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: petertoot on December 20, 2008, 10:14:56 PM
that beast looks fantastic!!!!! ;D ;D ;Das you are one of the first,its great to see how much these will pull,once they do some runnig in ,as i say you dont grow up,just old,but lovely units make it all worthwhile,meery christmas to all,peter in ozzie... ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: az2rail on December 20, 2008, 10:26:05 PM
The engine looks great. Now I know what mine will look like, as I have the same version ordered as yours.

Bruce


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: Paul W. on December 21, 2008, 01:22:42 PM
JD,
Looks great! Can I assume you'll have it at York next Spring??????


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: Tom Lapointe on December 21, 2008, 10:11:25 PM
Looks GREAT!!! ;D  Same version I'm thinking of getting, the "undec" with red-&-white trim, to get my own roadname lettering.  Not too concerned about getting one in time for Christmas - just sprang for another live-steam Shay ($$$$  :o ), so got to let the budget "recover" ;) a bit before springing for one of these beasts.  Sounds like it will pull comparable to the 3-tuck Shay (my current "tonnage champ"!  ;D ).

                                                                                                           ;)  Tom


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: mancosbob on December 22, 2008, 06:52:59 AM
First photos of the new Mallet at CD&StL's AJ Yard.
(http://www.largescaleonline.com/eimages/lsolpics/Team_Member_Pics/jlsrails/Steam_Locomotives/Steam_Locomotive/100_5028.jpg)
One of the "Enthusiastic Children"    JD

Hi, nice looking equipment you got there buddy, I can tell we would get along just fine and dandy: PETA Packing Company, I'm loving it!  LOL!
 ;D


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: darkdaniel100 on December 22, 2008, 10:37:34 AM
Mine is on order woo! Sadly the little river logging roadname was out of stock in UK so I am importing from US ! cant wait for it to turn up


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: Peter O on December 23, 2008, 12:04:10 AM
Could someone take a picture of the 2-6-6-2T with a Connie and /or Annie in the same shot? I'd like to see how large the loco is and whether it might be feasible to downsize it to 1:22.


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: darkdaniel100 on December 23, 2008, 10:15:53 AM
Could someone take a picture of the 2-6-6-2T with a Connie and /or Annie in the same shot? I'd like to see how large the loco is and whether it might be feasible to downsize it to 1:22.

If no one does before mine turns up ill take you a picture of my connie along side the mallet


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: Loco Bill on December 23, 2008, 11:17:13 AM
A friend of mine got his last week. He  lives in St Louis.  I am visiting in Denver and as of yesterday they were on the shelves at Caboose Hobbies, and also Mizzel Trains.  I could have bought six of the beasts, alas I had no money i9n my pockets.

It is a beauty tho, and it was great to be able to look at is super close up next to a K-27.

Enjoy your new toys, boys ;D  and Merry Railroading!


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: Jon D. Miller on December 23, 2008, 08:21:08 PM
Here are pictures of the Mallet with an outside frame Connie, Annie 10-Wheeler, and a 38 ton Shay.

(http://www.largescaleonline.com/eimages/lsolpics/Team_Member_Pics/jlsrails/Steam_Locomotives/Steam_Locomotive/100_5054.jpg)

Outside frame Connie and Mallet.

(http://www.largescaleonline.com/eimages/lsolpics/Team_Member_Pics/jlsrails/Steam_Locomotives/Steam_Locomotive/100_5059.jpg)

10-Wheeler Annie of 1:22.5 scale with the Mallet.

(http://www.largescaleonline.com/eimages/lsolpics/Team_Member_Pics/jlsrails/Steam_Locomotives/Steam_Locomotive/100_5061.jpg)

38 ton Shay with the Mallet.


One of the "Enthusiastic Children"

JD


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: Santa Fe buff on December 24, 2008, 01:13:09 AM
I love the look at the 2-6-6-2 Mallet! If only it was manufacured in HO scale... Thanks for sharing the pictures!

Josh


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: darkdaniel100 on December 24, 2008, 11:04:17 AM
My Mallet turned up this morning! Just in time! Cant believe how fast I got mine, was shipped from US on monday arrived in the UK today! Have to wait till tomorrow though before i can open it :(


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: Loco Bill on December 24, 2008, 11:09:00 AM
Great pic Jon,  The comparison shots were perfect!


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: Jon D. Miller on December 24, 2008, 02:01:37 PM
darkdaniel100,

I feel certain you will be well pleased with this locomotive.

A word of caution.  See the post in reference to a potential problem with crank pin hex head bolts.

Check yours before putting it into service.  Information on taking care of this matter is contained in the referenced post.

Merry Christmas!


One of the "Enthusiastic Children"

JD


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: Ray Dunakin on December 24, 2008, 11:24:36 PM
Wow, seeing it next to the others, it's actually a good deal smaller than I'd thought.



Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: Peter O on December 28, 2008, 01:18:24 AM
Ray, that's exactly my thought. I am now wondering if it would make a good mate for my LGB Uintah Mallet? Those shots seemed to indicate a possibility, especially the one with the Annie.

I think I need to measure the LGB and then compare the width, cab height etc with the specs for 2-6-6-2T and see where that takes me.

Peter.

 


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: Peter O on December 28, 2008, 11:48:10 AM
OK. So, since the Bachmann site is light on dimension specifics, I'd really appreciate it if one of the fortunate few that Santa was kind to this year, could take some measurements for me.

Specifically, I'd like to know:

- the hieght of the cab (from cab floor to cab roof)
- the width of the cab (outside)
- the widest measurement of the loco (if it's not the cab)
- the hieght of the cab (from rail top to cab roof)
- the overall hieght (from rail top to highest point - the cab light?)

I think with that info I can make a pretty good assement as to the locos (do we have a nickname name yet?) ability to fit in with my "legacy" bachmann fleet.

Thanks in advance.

Peter.


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: Jon D. Miller on December 28, 2008, 01:13:53 PM
Peter O,
Here you go. Please note all measurements were made with my highly accurate Tru-Value Hardware yardstick! ;)

Height of Cab:
3 3/8" cab floor to edge where cab side meet roof line.
4 1/2" cab floor to top of cab roof vent.
6 3/4" from railhead to top of cab roof vent.

Cab width:  4 3/4"  (does not include grab irons).

Widest measurement:  5" at front engine's steam cylinders.

Overall height:  7 3/4"  railhead to top of backup light.

By the way, the locomotive measures 26"  coupler to coupler, as delivered.

The locomotive's weight is 12 pounds, six ounces.



One of the "Enthusiastic Children"

JD



Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: Paul W. on December 28, 2008, 01:26:47 PM
JD,
By watching the videos on your website, looks like the Mallet is not only a good looking engine, but is a good puller too ;D

Thanks for sharing with us


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: Peter O on December 28, 2008, 10:28:42 PM
OK. Comparison measurements of new Bachmann Mallet to a captive LGB Uintah Mallet.

Height of Cab:
B  3 3/8"    L  3 1/4"  cab floor to edge where cab side meet roof line.
B  4 1/2"    L  4 1/4"  cab floor to top of cab roof vent.
B  6 3/4"    L  6 1/2"  from railhead to top of cab roof vent.

Cab width:  B 4 3/4"  L  4 1/4  (does not include grab irons).

Widest measurement:  5" at front engine's steam cylinders.

Overall height:  B  7 3/4" railhead to top of backup light.
                          L  6 1/2  railhead to eith top of cab or top of stack.

The B locomotive measures 26"  coupler to coupler, as delivered.
The L locomotive measures 24 1/2" coupler to coupler

So, I think it pretty safe to say this is a model of a relatively small NG loco, and unlike the preceeding K-27, not an NG derivative of a SG locomotive, which in turn resulted in a "large" model. My conclusion is that this loco is going to look "OK" running with the 1:22 which I think is good news for Bachmann, as it should result in additional sales.

The above is the personal opinion of the writer and does imply that everyone will or should come to this conclusion. As has been said before - it's your railroad, run what you want.

Enjoy your trains. Peter.



Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: Jon D. Miller on December 29, 2008, 11:38:03 AM
PeterO,
From your comparison it would seem that the B'mann Mallet would "play nice" with your Uintah.  The new Mallet is a small locomotive that should fit in with 1:22.5 equipment.

I checked the size of a Big Hauler cab.  It is just slightly longer than the Mallet's plus it has more roof overhang.  The Big Hauler cab has slightly less cab height.  So, for many folks it would seem the Big Hauler would also "look" OK sharing a layout with the new Mallet.

One of the "Enthusiastic Children"


JD



Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: Charlie Mutschler on December 29, 2008, 01:12:55 PM
"So, I think it pretty safe to say this is a model of a relatively small NG loco, and unlike the preceding K-27, not an NG derivative of a SG locomotive, which in turn resulted in a "large" model." - Peter O. 

Actually, the K-27 was designed as a narrow gauge locomotive.  It was a much larger narrow gauge locomotive than most of the elderly power in use on the D&RG narrow gauge in 1903, but it was NOT a rebuild of a standard gauge locomotive.  The D&RGW did rebuild a group of ten standard gauge 2-8-0s into narrow gauge 2-8-2 - Class K-37.  The standard gauge locomotives used for this were much larger than the K-27 class, and the K-37's are much larger than any of the other three groups of 2-8-2's on the D&RGW narrow gauge. 

There has been some talk over the years that the mudhens were designed to be easily converted to standard gauge, but I suspect this is really idle speculation among the modeling community.  However, it should be noted that the National Railways of Mexico did in fact convert a few narrow gauge outside frame locomotives to standard gauge, including both of the K-27s they bought, and some of the 2-8-0s bought new. 

The 2-6-6-2T is a model of a proposed 36 inch gauge prototype which would have been tiny, much smaller than Uintah 50 and 51.  So by comparison, it should look close to the 1:22 equipment, and, if compared to the other Fn3 equipment, it will look small, because it would have been. 

Happy modeling and modifying all. 
Charlie Mutschler
-30-


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: Peter O on December 29, 2008, 09:09:27 PM
Charlie, I think you're right, and I didn't mean to suggest it was a rebuild of a SG but more likely using some best practices from the SG side of the Baldwin house to build a state-of-the-art NG loco.

I'm a big fan of CO NG and along with Unitah, I run DRGW and RGS locos, but the K-27 was just too big for my line. Instead I downsized a Connie to resemble a 1:22 C-25.

Looks like that when funds permit, an unlettered B 2-6-6-2T will be joining the Uintah fleet.

Peter.


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: tac on December 30, 2008, 07:54:25 AM
I love the look at the 2-6-6-2 Mallet! If only it was manufacured in HO scale... Thanks for sharing the pictures!

Josh

It is, by Mantua.

tac
www.ovgrs.org


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: bob kaplan on January 01, 2009, 09:11:33 PM
Any suggestions on how to flip (where to grab a hold) the engine for lub, etc...so that the truck don't flop and damages themselves or other parts of the engine.   i just feel a bit awkward and wonder if someone has it down pat.  Thanks.


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: Jon D. Miller on January 02, 2009, 12:17:21 AM
Bob,

Set the Mallet in the bottom half of the clam shell.  Then place the top half of the clam shell over the engine.

Holding the clam shell together, turn the whole thing over.  Then remove the bottom half of the clam shell and you're in business.  This is how I've been turning the Mallet over and it has worked well so far.


On of the "Enthusiastic Children"

JD


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: darkdaniel100 on January 02, 2009, 07:45:35 AM
Any suggestions on how to flip (where to grab a hold) the engine for lub, etc...so that the truck don't flop and damages themselves or other parts of the engine.   i just feel a bit awkward and wonder if someone has it down pat.  Thanks.

Glad im not the only one that finds it hard to move this loco about. The method Jon mentioned is probably the easiest!.


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: bob kaplan on January 02, 2009, 11:21:10 AM
Sounds good Jon, thanks for your insight.
 bob


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: bob kaplan on January 05, 2009, 11:38:48 AM
As much as i was enjoying my mallett, i sent it back.  Unfortunately a couple of the brake hangers started to fall off.  Found them in the road bed.  i did not want to do the researh to see what does or did not keep them attached, so the engine was sent back.   Tis a nice engine...but this IS  disappointing.


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: morrisf on January 06, 2009, 11:56:37 AM
I'll bet some of you guys have trouble just opening the box the loco comes in.


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: the Bach-man on January 07, 2009, 12:00:18 AM
Dear Bob,
The brake shoes are a press fit to facilitate replacement. A drop of white glue will secure them until you want to remove them.
Have fun!
the Bach-man


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: Jon D. Miller on January 17, 2009, 03:26:05 PM
There seems to be some speculation, based on a "report" floating around on various LS sites, that the coupler swing could cause lead cars to be pulled off the track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBbrfBAtxqc

Here's a not too good You Tube video of the 2-6-6-2T pulling 27 loads around a long curve, through a #6 switch and on to tangent track.  I'll have to make another video of the 2-6-6-2T pulling a consist through four 5' radius curves without any coupler problems.

Coupler swing is not an issue.  This based on a little over 30 hours of operation.  The 2-6-6-2T has handled cars on the main line and in a small yard without any problems due to coupler swing.  The switches in the yard are LGB 1600.

Interesting that the coupler speculation is just that.  None of the folks making reference to the couplers, as factory mounted, indicate they have a Mallet. Or if they do they have yet to put it into operation.  Would be informative if one of the "speculators" actually had a 2-6-6-2T to operate rather than their wild a-s guessing.


One of the "Enthusiastic Children"

JD


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: Kevin Strong on January 17, 2009, 09:37:04 PM
Jon,

Whose stock cars are those?

Later,

K


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: Jon D. Miller on January 18, 2009, 01:37:22 AM
Kevin,
I scratch built them.  Up scaled an example built by Kirke Fay in 1:22.5.  Kirke's cars were featured in a "how to" article published by LSOL.  The cars are 30' cars built to 1:20.3 scale.

One of the "Enthusiastic Children"

JD


Title: Re: 2-6-6-2 Mallet Has Arrived
Post by: CustomRCmodels on January 24, 2009, 05:09:16 AM
Hello Bach-Man
I just took some photos of my new 2-6-6-2 ,
maybe they are nice enought to be used in the photo-gallery ?

(http://www.customrcmodels.com/Gardenrailroad/5a720640.jpg)

(http://www.customrcmodels.com/Gardenrailroad/5b420240.jpg)

(http://www.customrcmodels.com/Gardenrailroad/5b620570.jpg)

(http://www.customrcmodels.com/Gardenrailroad/5b520570.jpg)

(http://www.customrcmodels.com/Gardenrailroad/5b720570.jpg)

(http://www.customrcmodels.com/Gardenrailroad/5b820f70.jpg)

(http://www.customrcmodels.com/Gardenrailroad/5b9c2580.jpg)

to see them full-size follow this link :
http://www.customrcmodels.com/Gardenrailroad/bachmanns_2_6_6_2_mallet.htm (http://www.customrcmodels.com/Gardenrailroad/bachmanns_2_6_6_2_mallet.htm)

Willy
CustomRCmodels