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Title: Bachmann 0n30 observation car
Post by: El Loco on March 16, 2009, 08:05:14 PM
  Mr. Bachmann,
It is to my curiosity why you only offer the 0n30 observation car in set's only and not in singular sales.
I know they can be had on the "online auctions" for a price.
So why not  from catalog sales?
Best regards,  ??? stumped....
Title: Re: Bachmann 0n30 observation car
Post by: the Bach-man on March 16, 2009, 09:30:44 PM
Dear Loco,
I agree, but I don't know why...
Have fun!
the Bach-man
Title: Re: Bachmann 0n30 observation car
Post by: El Loco on March 17, 2009, 07:34:12 PM
Thank you for the reply.
Title: Re: Bachmann 0n30 observation car
Post by: SideTracked on March 18, 2009, 04:22:59 AM
El Loco,

I don't have an observation car; but, from the outward catalog appearance it seems a Bachmann coach could be converted to an observation car with a little bent wire and a drumhead. The B'mann obs cars don't seem to have a lengthened rear platform as may be prototypical. Am I missing something here?

Pete
Title: Re: Bachmann 0n30 observation car
Post by: renniks on March 18, 2009, 08:46:47 AM

     Pete,

     Obs car has different seating---3 seat unit on each side facing each other at 'rear' end.

     Eric UK
Title: Re: Bachmann 0n30 observation car
Post by: SideTracked on March 19, 2009, 01:22:42 AM
Eric,

I suspected there was more than just a railing change.

Thanks, Pete
Title: Re: Bachmann 0n30 observation car
Post by: C.S.R.R. Manager on March 19, 2009, 10:09:48 AM
The observation body also has large windows on the back end, so the folks in the facing seating can see out the back.  I have seen some on Ebay, from folks who buy a passenger set, and sell off the bits they don't need.  There is one on Ebay now, although it's D&RGW, and I know that not everyone feels comfortable with Ebay.

Manager
Title: Re: Bachmann 0n30 observation car
Post by: El Loco on March 19, 2009, 09:14:44 PM
I aint got a problem with ebay I just dont care to have to end up in a bidding war Paying an exurbanite price. 
Gotta pay to play. :-\ I wont be contributing unless it is a buy it now price.
Thanks for the heads up anyway. ;)
Title: Re: Bachmann 0n30 observation car
Post by: HHRR on March 20, 2009, 12:12:49 PM
Unless they have changed, the On30 observation car does not have large windows on the back end.  There is a narrow window on each side of the back door, and the side windows are the same size as all the passenger cars windows. My observation car is in my 10 year old Wonderland Express set.  One of the side windows is clear,  rather than the decorated one where the toliet is on the passenger cars.

Joe
Title: Re: Bachmann 0n30 observation car
Post by: El Loco on March 22, 2009, 09:33:23 AM
 :D I finally snagged one! Thank you for the heads up Manager! ;D
Title: Re: Bachmann 0n30 observation car
Post by: C.S.R.R. Manager on March 22, 2009, 10:53:19 PM
You're welcome.  Got to keep the trains rolling!  I converted one observation into a business car, complete with interior, and the owner of the line on the back platform. 

And HHRR is right, the windows on the back are about the same size as the side ones.  Somehow they just seem bigger, I guess, because they are fixed panes, not double-hung, like the side windows.

Manager
Title: Re: Bachmann 0n30 observation car
Post by: El Loco on March 23, 2009, 07:48:56 PM
I will be dismantling my fleet of passenger cars and repainting them all to match One interior I have primed stained the floors to resemble walnut flooring some upholstery work & and added some passengers. The rail road line sure needed the revenue  ;D
Title: Re: Bachmann 0n30 observation car
Post by: gmhtrains on March 25, 2009, 12:12:32 AM
My railroad was inspired by the Bellevue & Cascade, Milwaukee Road's narrow gauge subsidiary in Iowa. But I am taking it a step farther, by painting my passenger cars in Milwaukee's orange and maroon scheme. Don't feel limited to the four car styles that Bachmann offers; it is not that difficult to kitbash a four-door baggage car, Railway Post Office car, dining car or your own version of an open platform observation car from the stock combine and coach. You have a choice of cut and glue assembly if you want only a few cars, or mold making and resin casting if you need a large fleet.
Title: Re: Bachmann 0n30 observation car
Post by: El Loco on March 25, 2009, 07:47:29 PM
Nice ideas. I recieved the observation car from TFS today it is a yellow Rio grande .  The remainder of my fleet is Green undecorated.  The urge to kit bash has been a thought.
Title: Re: Bachmann 0n30 observation car
Post by: HarryHotspur on March 26, 2009, 11:54:40 PM
Quote from: gmhtrains on March 25, 2009, 12:12:32 AM
My railroad was inspired by the Bellevue & Cascade, Milwaukee Road's narrow gauge subsidiary in Iowa. But I am taking it a step farther, by painting my passenger cars in Milwaukee's orange and maroon scheme. Don't feel limited to the four car styles that Bachmann offers; it is not that difficult to kitbash a four-door baggage car, Railway Post Office car, dining car or your own version of an open platform observation car from the stock combine and coach. You have a choice of cut and glue assembly if you want only a few cars, or  if you need a large fleet.

Do you by chance have a link to some basic instructions for mold making and resin casting? It's something I've wanted to try, but I don't know where to start.
Title: Re: Bachmann 0n30 observation car
Post by: Coach on March 30, 2009, 07:23:30 PM
On30 Annual 2008 had an article on resin casting a Bellevue & Cascade boxcar and the 2009 had an article on casting Mann's Creek hoppers. Both article had a pretty thorough description of the process and lots of photos.
Coach
Title: Oops... Something is missing
Post by: SideTracked on April 02, 2009, 04:57:41 PM
After reading your various comments on the differences between a standard coach and the observation car (OC), I decided I had to have one. My Bachmann OC arrived yesterday from Texas. Many thanks to Ray and The Favorite Spot for another quick and easy on-line purchase.

As I was preparing the OC for painting to my color scheme, something about the observation platform was bothering me. Then I realized, the Bachmann OC doesn't have a platform! The Loss Prevention Unit of my Legal Department was quick to advise: Without a standard platform, someone was sure to twist an ankle, or worse, in one of the exposed step wells at the observation area. Since other lines provide well covers, failure to do so would breach the standards of care, and expose the line to significant liability. Consequently, the Engineering and Maintenance Department has retrofitted the observation area with well covers to create a typical platform. See below for covered and uncovered step wells...

Cheers,
Pete

(http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/1376/platform.th.gif) (http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=platform.gif)
Title: Re: Bachmann 0n30 observation car
Post by: El Loco on April 02, 2009, 07:45:52 PM
Hey Pete! I recieved my OC from Ray last week on time and a smooth transaction as normal :D. The platform conversion is a great detail something my RR will have to provide before its OC is put into service. ;)
Thanks for the idea!