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2071  Discussion Boards / HO / Re: EZ track on: May 19, 2007, 03:55:32 PM
2072  Discussion Boards / HO / Re: DCC gone amok on: May 19, 2007, 03:37:01 PM
•   With power off, remove all locomotives from the track.
•   After at least five minutes with power off, turn power on.
•   Test run each locomotive as it is placed back on the track.
•   Place the sound locomotives back on the track last and test run, activate sounds.
•   Tell us what happens.
•   What brand and model DCC command station and power boosters you are using?

2073  Discussion Boards / HO / Re: Wye's on: May 18, 2007, 03:57:43 PM

Key need to know about turnouts used to build wye
 •   frog insolated or power routed
 •   routes all-live or power-routing
(i.e. how is the turnout constructed and wired)

That is part of what dictates where the track gaps and power feeds are placed for the wye.
2074  Discussion Boards / HO / Re: Wye's on: May 17, 2007, 12:45:17 AM
Wiring a Wye for DCC depends on the brand and type of turnouts (manufacturer and part #) used to build the Wye. The turnout used is as important as where the Wye is used in the track plan so give Jim the information if he has not already requested the information.
2075  Discussion Boards / HO / Re: EZ Track #4 vs #5 turnout question.... on: May 17, 2007, 12:25:44 AM
Not sure what additional opinions will do for you. No one can give you a guarantee not having tested the overall running condition of your locomotive or knowing if the #5 turnout you use will perform as its design intended.

We are not talking about a lot of money here. Buy a #5 E-Z Track Turnout (or whatever brand you want to use) attach a few straight sections of track, connect power, test and fine tune if necessary. Be sure you have cleaned the track, cleaned the locomotives wheels and properly lubricate the locomotive, which includes placing a very small amount of conductive contact lube on the pick-up wheels' tread and electrical rub points before you start testing.

Have fun! And let us know how things turn out.
2076  Discussion Boards / HO / Re: EZ Track #4 vs #5 turnout question.... on: May 16, 2007, 07:16:57 PM
Dear Hunt,

Roger that.

Regarding your comment about powered vs. non-powered turnouts, have you read Lionel Strang's book on DCC?  If so, I believe he is a proponent of powered frogs as a way to avoid derailments if the points are set incorrectly. 

I have skimmed through Tony's DCC outline, and cannot figure if he advises for or against powered frogs. I sort of remember a discussion here several months ago.

Any info you can provide will be most appreciated, or a link .

Thank you and best wishes,

Hi Jack,
I looked over Lionel Strang’s DCC Made Easy: Digital Command Control for Your Model Railroad paperback book when it first came out. So it has been awhile.

I recall he covers short circuit in a turnout and likelihood of derailment when traveling from the frog against the turnout route switch rails line when using powered vs. non-powered frog. Understand this has nothing to do with using DCC. Same derailment will happen if you are using DC. Such a derailment depends on how the turnout is designed and how the switch rails (a.k.a. Points) are moved. As I recall he has Shinohara. However, with so called snap type turnout you are not as likely to have the derailment he writes about.

Try it ---- You can usually successfully run your train both ways thought any E-Z Track turnout regardless of the line of the switch rails. Know when the E-Z Track frog is polarized it does not become power-routing type turnout. All routes are still powered.

I still suggest not powering the frog on any brand turnout unless you have a rolling equipment dictated need. Handle the derailments Lionel writes about, if they occur with the turnout you have, with operator discipline.

While it does not address E-Z Track turnout's wiring method directly, if you want to get into the details of wiring turnouts used with DCC  review
2077  Discussion Boards / HO / Re: EZ Track #4 vs #5 turnout question.... on: May 16, 2007, 01:53:37 AM
As beginner's we all make that mistake, just be patient with us, we will learn as we progress.   But   I have even heard the guys in hobby shops make the same error, just a habit. (or else they don't know the difference either)
If your comments are intended for me, then know--- Patient is not a word that is applicable. If I did not have patients, I would not be answering questions on this Board.

To All,
My replies are given on a take it or leave basis. Those with an ego issue or are thin-skinned I strongly suggest… do not read any of my posts.

Because of the brevity of most of my replies, I do encourage all to request more information if needed. I also encourage anyone that has additional relevant and factually accurate information to add to any of my replies do so. However, if you don’t know and are just guessing don't waste your time and the ones who will read it.
2078  Discussion Boards / HO / Re: EZ Track #4 vs #5 turnout question.... on: May 16, 2007, 12:27:09 AM
Where did you see an ad by Bachmann about a HO #4 turnout?

As Bo wrote, the instruction to connect the wire to polarize the Frog is on the back of the turnout package.

DCC components are not as tolerant of a short circuit even a momentary one as a DC power pack. So, unless you have too, do not polarize the Frog. It increases the chance you will experience momentary short circuits as equipment with metal wheels out of gauge roll through the turnout. Check to be sure the Frog insulating gaps are not compromised. There are other fine tunings to the turnout and rolling equipment you may have to do; but, we can cover those if situation dictates.
2079  Discussion Boards / Large / Re: Power supply for track powered train on: May 15, 2007, 06:46:37 PM
Sure.  That's an expensive power source!  Wink

 Keep the DC voltage less than 16 volts. If you need more than that something is wrong.
2080  Discussion Boards / HO / Re: Spectrum 2-8-0 and Sound on: May 15, 2007, 02:28:55 PM
Hi Lanny,
To date Bachmann does not have or provide a function only controller to be used with a DCC sound equipped locomotive being run with a DC power pack. I do not know if the BLI function controller you have will work with a Bachmann sound decoder.

Check around... you can find a Bachmann E-Z Command Control Center (Bachmann's DCC command center unit) for just a few dollars more than MRC's Black Box.

Thinking about the few MRC decoders I have tested... I find it kind of amusing that Micro-Mark ad for the MRC Black Box states, "Works with any dual-mode NMRA-conformant decoder."  Cheesy

(I have removed the part of my answer that was in this paragraph. Although the information removed is accurate, I decided the Bachmann Board is not an appropriate place for revealing such information about MRC’s products.)

If it were my money and time, I would be evaluating DCC systems that can program CVs so I can use the full capabilities of any decoder and independently control two or more trains simultaneously. Entry level DCC systems now cost less than $200.
2081  Discussion Boards / HO / Re: Spectrum 2-8-0 and Sound on: May 15, 2007, 01:31:57 AM
Please read my first post again.  MRC  has a "Black Box" that they claim will let  you hear all the sounds on ANY SOUND EQUIPPED LOCO without using DCC.  How much more relativity do you need.?   I mainly was referring to the Black Box, not necessarily their sound module.
OK, I did not realize you were mainly referring to MRC’s Black Box.

You linked to the wrong product think you are talking about

I have not seen thus have not had a chance to test MRC’s BlackBox.  MRC does not have a very good track record with me in living up to their advertisement claims and are at the bottom of any of my DCC and related product lists.  But I will give them credit… they keep trying.  Wink
2082  Discussion Boards / HO / Re: Spectrum 2-8-0 and Sound on: May 15, 2007, 12:43:12 AM
Yes, I know MRC sells a system for installation in most DCC ready HO steam locomotives that will provide a few on-board sounds using DC power pack.

Now back to my question -- What does what you have posted have to do with Bachmann Spectrum 2-8-0 and Sound?

2083  Discussion Boards / HO / Re: Spectrum 2-8-0 and Sound on: May 15, 2007, 12:16:20 AM
MRC has a "black box" that will let you hear all  the sounds on the dual mode encoder using your DC controller, has its own throttle direction etc. Haven't found a price on it yet, need to go to  They also have a sound module and wireless transmitter for a DCC ready loco.  ...
What does what you have posted have to do with Bachmann Spectrum 2-8-0 and Sound ?
2084  Discussion Boards / HO / Re: Spectrum 2-8-0 and Sound on: May 15, 2007, 12:05:13 AM
In reading the description of the Spectrum 2-8-0, I get the impression that sound only works under DCC.  Is this correct?  Or will the loco generate sound under DC with a special device?
Your impression is not correct if you are referring to the DCC Sound On Board Spectrum 2-8-0. You get limited sounds when using a DC power pack.

I'm pretty sure that you would have to be running DCC to hear Spectrum sound.

Lanny... Wrong guess.
2085  Discussion Boards / On30 / Re: New Forney will not move on: May 14, 2007, 08:31:51 PM
While you are waiting on the Bach-man
Reset the decoder’s CVs by programming CV 8 with a value of 8.

After reset, locomotive still will not move
1) Properly ground yourself, unplug the decoder and reseat it.
2) While you have the shell off --- Check all wires to see if any are not connected.
3) Repeat the programming of CV 8 with a value of 8.
Still have the issue… call Bachmann Service Dept.
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