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1  Discussion Boards / Thomas & Friends / Re: The Everything Thomas Thread on: November 10, 2017, 11:34:32 AM
ERTL George isn't a bad choice for an HO layout, but I'd recommend the Bandai model if you can find it.  The only problem with Bandai is that the range has been discontinued since 2005 and they're starting to become hard to find.  I think you can still find George though, but you'll pay a lot more than you would for an ERTL one.  Personally I say you're getting your moneys worth with Bandai, but that's just my opinion.



-Rusty
2  Discussion Boards / Thomas & Friends / Re: The Future of Bachmann Thomas on: November 06, 2017, 12:45:57 AM
If you ask me, Bachmann should just discontinue their TTTE Large Scale range.

I agree. Bachmann should just discontinue their thomas and friends large scale range before it is too late.

And if brains were gasoline, most people who think that way couldn't run an ants go-kart 2 laps around a Cheerio...

Lets be realistic here.  The large scale market isn't what it used to be, but there is no way Bachmann would be foolish enough to just discontinue the range completely.  After all this is large scale Thomas & Friends rather than O gauge Chuggington. Wink  I can honestly agree with Chaz that in a worst case scenario, Bachmann would stop introducing new models into the range, but continue to produce existing ones.  Personally I'm leaning more towards Bachmann trying to push new recolors each year as much as they can, but that's just me making a prediction based on what's been introduced into the range within the last 2-3 years.

As a collector of large scale trains, I tend to keep up with a lot of the discussion that goes on with large scale products, especially Bachmann.  Yes announcements haven't been the best and chances of certain characters being made are nil, but that's kind of the price Bachmann has to pay when they have a limited amount of leeway from Mattel and enough costs in production to pay off the national debt.  There's no doubt that the large scale Thomas & Friends range will stay around, but announcements are/and probably will continue to be a little underwhelming.  Either way its best to just sit back and appreciate what little Bachmann can offer to the range, rather than whine and complain about what they can't.

-Rusty
3  Discussion Boards / Thomas & Friends / Re: Thomas & Friends in 2018 on: October 28, 2017, 11:55:36 AM
So lets talk about large scale red coaches.  These are another addition I would like to see for the large scale range, and I know many people want to see them as well.  The red coaches were in high demand years ago for the HO range, and have proven to be popular sellers by selling out a number of times.

To start off, the red coaches have made numerous appearances with numerous characters, and in many cases youíll see them with engines such as Percy, James, Edward, Rosie, Henry, Duck, etc.  Weíve also seen in recent seasons (even in the earlier seasons such as season 2) that in some cases the engines are pulling 3-4 coach trains with the red coaches.  This plays out a little later on, but Iíll get to that in a moment.  Something that also should be mentioned about the red coaches is that they are/were used on many different parts of Sodor such as the Ffarquhar Branch, Brendam Branch, Harwick Branch, The Little Western, The Main Line, etc.

So is there a demand for the red coaches?  I wouldnít be making this post of there wasnít.  For a couple years now thereís been many discussions come up for the red coaches in large scale, and for good reason too.  Years back the red coaches were in high demand for HO, and after being around a few years theyíre still flying off the shelves.  With the demand now, thereís no doubt they would move in large scale.  Some people have even gone as far to make their own as seen below.



Chances are some people would even consider buying multiple red coaches instead of just buying a red coach and a red break coach.  Itís also safe to say that considering chances of getting some express coaches in large scale are out of the question, it would be nice to have the red coaches as a replacement to go along with James.

Now itís a question of how Bachmann would do in terms of production of said models.  They honestly have an advantage with the red coaches considering the tooling is already somewhat there.  Starting with the existing Annie and Clarabel/Emilyís coaches tooling, alterations can be made to make the red coaches.  The break coach would require the most work, but just the regular red coach only requires the new roof tooling which in turn is used for the break coach anyway.  The only downside I can find with the red coaches is that the tooling for them (even though it exists) needing altered might be asking a little much.  This isnít as simple as just taking an existing van or wagon and recoloring it.  Keep in mind what the large scale announcements have been lately.

So to wrap things up, what are my thoughts on getting the red coaches in large scale?  Iím honestly all for these additions, as Iím sure many others are as well.  Overall they seem simple enough, appealing enough, and would definitely sell better than something like a vegetable van or a raspberry syrup tanker.  It would also be nice to have them to go along with James and/or Percy in the range, and other characters like Edward, Duck, Rosie, Ryan, Oliver, etc when/if theyíre ever announced.  Now if youíll excuse me, its lunchtime!



-Rusty
4  Discussion Boards / Thomas & Friends / Re: Large scale Gordon on: October 27, 2017, 11:52:21 AM
Do Arry and Bert still even have roles in the TV series significant enough to warrant electric models in any scale? I haven't seen any episodes since around season 12.

No, but that doesn't matter when the tooling for them is already there courtesy of Devious Diesel.  That's basically the only reason Bachmann made Arry and Bert in HO, and also why they were made for the O gauge line by one of Bachmann's competitors.  Either way, manufactures still get a small profit off Arry and Bert just because of the reuse of tooling.  Personally if Bachmann wants to reuse a tooling and have a model that sells, just forget about Arry and Bert and make Paxton instead.  Would make sense considering his HO model was announced this year.

-Rusty
5  Discussion Boards / Thomas & Friends / Re: Narrow Gauge Modeling Thread on: October 26, 2017, 12:02:25 PM
Some of you younger fellas might not remember him, but the YouTuber Topkazfatt has made the narrow gauge engines (including Freddie and Mighty Mac) and their Talyllyn counterparts.  He's also attempted making the Arlesdale and Culdee Fell engines as well.  Most of his engines were made from existing merchandise, but he has used kits and built some of his own chassis.  Check out his channel via the link below.

https://www.youtube.com/user/topkazfatt

Sadly he doesn't seem to be doing anymore modeling these days and has actually been quite inactive the last few years.  Considering he's been doing this since 2007 and within the last few years had 2 kids, I dare say family takes priority now.  Still have to admire his work though. Wink

-Rusty
6  Discussion Boards / Thomas & Friends / Re: Large scale Gordon on: October 25, 2017, 01:44:38 PM
Plus, they're tank engines and are a pretty reasonable size for the G-Scale range.

Not to mention Bill and Ben would require a single tooling which would help Bachmann in terms of production costs.  The faces would be the only thing possibly requiring a separate tooling, but I personally see Bachmann just changing the eyebrows like they did for the HO Donald and Douglas models, or just making the faces the same like Arry and Bert.  I'd say the faces on Bill and Ben would probably be the same considering there's not much difference between the 2 of them.  I don't really see them getting different expressions like their HO counterparts.

Like I've said before though, considering Diesel was announced in large scale and the tooling is there, it's pretty clear the next set of twins the range will get is Arry and Bert.  However, I think many would agree Bill and Ben would do way better than Arry and Bert would in large scale, or any range for that matter.  They've had more appearances lately, their sales would be better, and there's been more of a demand for them in the last couple years.  I myself would be tempted to get the tank engine twins if they were ever announced.

-Rusty
7  Discussion Boards / Thomas & Friends / Re: Model railway plans, limited space on: October 24, 2017, 11:22:05 PM
Model it in N scale.  Shouldn't take up much space and will fit neatly between your furnace and your hot water heater. Roll Eyes

-Rusty
8  Discussion Boards / Thomas & Friends / Re: Brendam Docks Cargo Ship on: October 24, 2017, 11:30:30 AM
I would've found that joke funny 4 years ago, but unfortunately that ship has sailed.

Which is a good reason to throw this whole topic overboard...

-Rusty
9  Discussion Boards / Thomas & Friends / Re: What is the max current draw from Large Scale Thomas? on: October 24, 2017, 11:27:39 AM
Thanks. I'm referring to the DC Thomas (without sound)

In that case it should be drawing between 0.5 and 1 amp like I said before.  If you had the DCC model, it would be more as you would also be drawing more amps for the sound.

-Rusty
10  Discussion Boards / Thomas & Friends / Re: Bachmann Rheneas coming Early March on: October 24, 2017, 11:25:19 AM
Considering he was first seen back in February, they must be trying to get a HUGE supply of models, possibly in time for Christmas. Let's hope he does make it.

Also, fingers crossed Peter Sam gets announced for 2018. Rusty might be revealed at that time as well (mid February).

I think Bachmann is trying to get a large supply built up in time for Christmas in efforts to avoid the shortage of stock that they had with Skarloey.  Personally I don't think even that's going to work, considering the narrow gauge range literally flies off the shelves.  Bottom line here is, don't hesitate to get the model when it becomes available.

As for Rusty, I'm saying mid February as well.  I did have hopes of seeing him in time for Christmas, but we haven't even got as much as an update from Bachmann about him, which leads me to believe we probably won't hear anything on the model till next year.  Possibly get an update on the model along with the 2018 announcements.

-Rusty
11  Discussion Boards / Thomas & Friends / Re: New Acquisitions on: October 24, 2017, 11:14:54 AM
You say the colors possibly aren't accurate to Thomas & Friends, but personally I don't think you're too far off from basically having this.



Overall I think they look pretty good.  Kind of makes me wish I was still modeling in HO/OO scales.  Hoping to get my hands on a few of Bachmann's large scale vans to add to my collection and maybe make a 3rd troublesome truck unless Bachmann beats me too it.

-Rusty
12  Discussion Boards / Thomas & Friends / Re: Large scale Gordon on: October 24, 2017, 11:05:06 AM
If nothing is impossible, then I guess Sam for Large Scale is inevitable! He has a very good chance, since nothing is impossible!

Don't be silly, I'm joking.

At this point, Large Scale would be lucky enough just to get another engine besides Arry and Bert, which are almost inevitable at this point considering their tooling is already there.  If anything, many agree we will get something like Philip or Samson because they are smaller models and are less costly to make, hence why we got Winston.  With the direction the range has gone the last few years, there's no way Bachmann would make any engine larger than James, and even then that's a stretch for them.  From what I heard before the 2017 announcements were made, Bachmann wanted to do a tank engine, but instead we got Diesel.  That still makes sense though considering Diesel is about the size of engines such as Thomas and/or Toby.

When it comes to tender engines in large scale, I personally I feel like Bachmann regrets making Emily, simply because of her size.  She is after all the largest model in the range and has the highest RRP, which is understandable.  However, you could just about buy a Bachmann 4-6-0 Anniversary Edition for the same price, and on top of that you're getting lights, sound, smoke, and overall more detail with that model verses Emily.  Don't get me wrong, I really like Emily's model and I think she is the best one Bachmann introduced into large scale, but I have to agree that she was a stretch for the range.

-Rusty
13  Discussion Boards / Thomas & Friends / Re: Large scale Gordon on: October 22, 2017, 12:22:21 PM
Considering the number of times we've gone over this, I'm just going to copy and paste this time...

I've lost count the number of times we've gone over this, but Gordon and/or Henry having a chance in large scale is about as likely as Bachmann bringing back their K-27 in the Spectrum line.  What people are not getting is that the models are JUST TOO BIG!

Take Emily for example.  She is the largest engine in the Thomas range and is around 27" long with a wheel base length being roughly 14 1/2".  Bachmann's 10-wheeler locomotive is about 30" long and has a wheelbase length of about 12 1/2".  Bachmann's C-19 is 32" long, and has a wheel base length of 13 1/2".  Keep in mind that all wheelbase measurements are locomotives only and don't include the tender.  To paint the bigger picture here, Emily herself has a longer wheelbase than that of Bachmann's 4-6-0 10-wheeler or the 2-8-0 C-19.

Gordon and Henry are larger than Emily, and would be larger than her model if made in large scale.  What Iím sure many donít know, is that Bachmann's Thomas models are 1:22.5 scale, while other models in Bachmann's large scale range are about 1:20.3 scale.  Just because Bachmann made a 4-6-0 with their 10-wheeler means nothing, because Gordon and Henry would be bigger than that model anyways.  If Emily herself already has a larger wheelbase length than Bachmann's C-19, Gordon and Henry would be no different.  Larger wheelbases limit how tight of curves the models can negotiate.  Bachmann altered Emily's chassis with both front and rear axles on pony trucks, and also accommodated the tender coupling to pivot right behind the driving wheel and added 2 holes in the coupler to allow the tender to be spaced further back from the locomotive.

Unless you're someone with an actual garden railroad, most people who have the large scale Thomas models probably have the Bachmann steel alloy track and run their models indoors.  Bachmann's steel alloy track only offers 4' diameter curves.  Gordon and Henry would have a longer wheelbase than that of Emily's, and with little to no room to modify the chassis.  Itís not as simple as just removing the flanges from the middle driving wheels.  Bachmann would not bother with modifying the chassis to work on 4' diameter curves, and most likely the models would instead require larger radius curves which are only available in brass track which cost more than steel alloy.  No one is going to go out and buy new track and/or start a new track system just to run 1 or 2 models.

Then you have price for the models, both production and retail costs.  Gordon and Henry would be too much for a lot of modelers out there and sales would be poor.  Emily herself is already $429 and considering that Bachmann's 4-6-0 models hover around the $475 range, Gordon and Henry could be anywhere from $550-$600 if not more.  Not everyone has that kind of money and it limits the number of sales.  Keep in mind that over the years, prices on Bachmann models have gone up and will continue to do so.  Iím sorry, but there just arenít enough positives with the models.

Edward being a tender engine gives him a slim to none chance of happening regardless how you look at it.  I had hopes of Edward for 2017 (just as I did for 2016), but after 2 years and the announcements weíve had lately, Iíve lost hope for Edward in large scale.  I could honestly see characters like Rosie, Mavis, or even Arry and Bert having more of a chance than any models larger than that.  These days, size and/or reuse of tooling plays a big factor in a model being made and I know for a fact that's why weíve gotten a lot of what we already have in the range. 

What everyone fails to understand is that the large scale market is dying, not just for Bachmannís Thomas range, but for their Big Haulers and Spectrum line as well.  Hell, the large scale market in general is bad even for Bachmannís competitors.  Many other manufactures that sell large scale have released very little the last few years, or even released nothing at all.  Some have even gone under and arenít around anymore.  I highly suggest that if you want to argue that claim, I recommend taking a look at a recent topic in the large scale forum and see what Iím talking about.  Like it or not, large scale only has a few years left.  You know it, I know itÖ

http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php/topic,33756.0.html

-Rusty
14  Discussion Boards / Thomas & Friends / Re: bachmann Thomas and friends in 2018 on: October 22, 2017, 12:16:38 PM
I show about as much enthusiasm for this as Mr. Rickenbacker and Mr. Titanic...

We already have a Thomas & Friends in 2018 thread started by Mr. TerencetheTractor525.  We don't need a duplicate thread like this one, especially when it's nothing but an unrealistic list of items Bachmann would most likely never announce.  On average we get about 2-5 items for each range every year.  Predicting that Bachmann will announce 3-8 engines for each range and on top of that 10+ accessories and pieces of rolling stock for 2018 seems like a very dangerous assumption.  When you consider the direction the Bachmann Thomas range has been going the last couple years, that only proves my point even further.

Threads and wish lists like this are really starting to get old.  All they do is clutter up the forum and many users on here (myself included) are just growing tired of this trend.  There's a difference between potential and realistic.  Potentially Bachmann will announce what's on everyone's wish lists.  Realistically they'll announce what's in popular demand.

Thomas & Friends in 2018 Thread:
http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php/topic,33422.0.html

-Rusty
15  Discussion Boards / Thomas & Friends / Re: Brendam Docks Cargo Ship on: October 22, 2017, 11:51:13 AM
Seriously?  This thread is from well over 4 years ago.  Did we really need to bring this back? Tongue

-Rusty
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