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1  Discussion Boards / HO / Re: Pegasus motor... on: May 06, 2018, 10:08:43 AM

As for the Pegasus... here she is so far!

2  Discussion Boards / HO / Re: Pegasus motor... on: May 06, 2018, 12:34:31 AM

I got the motor today from Bachmann (I'm in San Diego, and I only ordered it on the 3rd, and it's here today! Dang, Bachmann is FAST!)

The great news? IT'S PERFECT!

So, for anyone who needs to re-motor a Bachmann 4-2-0 "Norris" engine... the Gandy Dancer motors are the exact same motors, just with a slightly different worm gear. Just put your old worm gear onto the new motor!

Also, on another front (same engine) I also got the Digitrax SDN136PS 8 bit sound decoder today as well, that I plan to install into the tender of the Pegasus (I chose Digitrax, because I need to be able to put Norris sounds into the decoder, and I have a PS3Xtra) Anyway... for anyone planning to put DCC and sound into a Norris engine... this decoder FITS! It not only fits perfectly, but, with room to spare (it's a tiny little thing) so I'll be able to put an 8 pin plug in, saving me some headache with hard wiring.
3  Discussion Boards / HO / Re: Pegasus motor... on: April 28, 2018, 06:27:06 PM
Quite the life sever there, indeed! I didn't even realize I had it until I was going through the tool box, looking for something else! It made my day, to be sure.
4  Discussion Boards / HO / Re: Pegasus motor... on: April 28, 2018, 07:08:51 AM
It's off! It was just on really tight, and I was using the wrong tool for the job originally. I thought I was using a gear puller for model trains, but I was using a gear puller for a Victrola. (which doesn't use the pins)

Repairing old Victrolas is my other hobby.

Once I found the right tool for the job (found it completely by accident... it's going in with the regular tools now) it worked.

Now, I can buy a new motor from Bachmann (the Gandy Dancer uses the exact same motor... I checked it against one of my Gandy Dancers, and then checked on the site) and easy peasy.

Unfortunately I have to wait until payday. I have $16 in my account, and the motors are $11, but after shipping and tax, it's $20. But, payday is only next week, so, I'll be set then!

I think what I'm going to do, is run wires from the motor the second I get it, and separate wires from the wipers on the driver, so that when it's all together, I can have thoose four wires going to the tender, and be ready for DCC on it.
5  Discussion Boards / HO / Re: Pegasus motor... on: April 28, 2018, 04:16:36 AM
My roommate pointed out that it looks like I'm complaining... I just want to assure folks, I'm not complaining. I just thought the response was funny is all. I had been talking about this on a few forums, and a couple of forums told me to contact Bachmann parts, because even though it isn't listen, there is a slight chance they have it, or know of something compatible.

So forums said to ask parts, and parts replied by telling me to ask forums... that just struck me as hilarious is all! (okay, I'm easily amused)

An update though... GREAT NEWS!

So, I wasn't able to remove the worm screw before, and even tried a gear puller, however, today, while going through the tool drawer, I ran across a gear puller that Terry sent me a while back... it was a different sort of puller that uses a pin... the pin was a bit fat, however, I have a box of record needles here (I restore Victrola Talking Machines, and seeing how you need to change the needle with every record, I have a zillion (spell check says that's a word) steel needles, new, and used) so I grabbed a needle, stuck it into the bolt, lined it up with the gear, and pop it went!

That being said, it changes everything!

Now... do I take apart one of my Gandy Dancers (I have six of them) OR, do I buy a new Gandy Dancer motor from the parts store?

You know what? I'm gonna order a new motor! (besides, children LOVE playing with the Gandy Dancers when I set up tracks at the Steampunk Convention)
6  Discussion Boards / HO / Re: Pegasus motor... on: April 27, 2018, 11:55:08 PM
The DeWitt Clinton has the right worm gear, while the Gandy Dancer has the right orientation of the motor. I was hoping the parts people could help me out with that, seeing how they have the parts to do it... but they told me to ask here instead.

I would have asked repair, but the last time I had an issue and talked to them, they would only offer a replacement of a whole discontinued loco with a completely different loco (I have a George Washington that was wired wrong, and they offered to replace it with a non-George Washington engine, which defeats the purpose of spending all of that money on a collectable set... apparently the repair department doesn't actually do repairs... they just replace)
7  Discussion Boards / HO / Re: Pegasus motor... on: April 27, 2018, 11:51:21 PM
Yes. It is the exact same motor, but, the worm gear is on the wrong side, and how the motor goes in, it's supported by the plastic fire box, so it's measurements have to be very specific... meaning, I can't flip it like that.

Here's the actual motor taken from the Pegasus:

8  Discussion Boards / HO / Re: Pegasus motor... on: April 27, 2018, 11:20:41 PM
Oh, and I checked with NWSL for a replacement motor, but the worm gear is, once again, an issue, because it's such a weird size.
9  Discussion Boards / HO / Re: Pegasus motor... on: April 27, 2018, 11:19:37 PM
It's the same motor, BUT, the worm gear is a bit too big, plus, it's on the wrong side of the motor.

The Gandy Dancer has it on the proper side, but, the worm gear is still too big. I found a few more in the parts catalogue that is the same motor, just the wrong worm gear.

Oh, and I tried removing the worm gear on my Norris motor, but, it doesn't come off, even with an NWSL gear puller.


What I'm probably going to have to do, is buy a Lafayette off of eBay, and strip the motor from it for my Pegasus. (I did too much work on the Pegasus to not try to save it... plus, I plan to put DCC and sound into it)

10  Discussion Boards / HO / Pegasus motor... on: April 27, 2018, 09:57:08 PM
So I need to fine a new motor for my Bachmann Pegasus 4-2-0 Norris engine. The old one burned out.

I shot an e-mail to Bachmann's parts department to see if it's in stock, and this is the reply:


 My suggestion to you would be to go onto the Ask the Bachmann Forum online at the website.

See what the modelers can tell you.

Bachmann Industries
1400 E. Erie Avenue
Philadelphia PA 19124
Phone: 1-800-356-3910
Phone: 215-533-1600
Fax: 215-533-1650>>

Okay... so... do any of the modelers here know if Bachmann has the motor and worm gear I need in stock?

(strange way to look for a part in stock, but... I'll play)
11  Discussion Boards / HO / Re: bachmann turntable/roundhouse on: April 19, 2018, 06:47:12 AM
If the Tidmouth Sheds had an electric turntable, I would be all over that! I love that the doors are spring loaded, and open and close automatically with the engines.
12  Discussion Boards / General Discussion / Re: Why do you do this to me, Bachmann?!?!?! on: March 04, 2018, 05:55:34 AM

That 2018 catalogue means I'm going to be SO BROKE this year!
13  Discussion Boards / General Discussion / Bachmann EZ Command Experiment on: March 02, 2018, 08:57:13 AM
I did an experiment tonight.

I use the Bachmann EZ Command DCC system. I have the EZ Commander, and two "Walk Around Companions" on my layout.

So I placed all of my DCC engines on the layout tonight. (I usually run with just six DCC sound engines, one lighted car that uses track power, and one DCC sound car)

So tonight, I put them all on.

NINE DCC sound engines, ONE DC engine (the Pegasus) the light caboose (Proto 2000) and the BLI sound cattle car.

No booster... just the EZ Commander, and it's two Companions, and two jacks for the Companions.

Then I made every engine run all at once.

If ANYONE tries to tell you that the EZ Command can't handle more that two engines, then it's only because they have never used the EZ Commander system before.

I can see that there might be limitations if one was using it on a full room layout (my layout covered two walls of my room... so it's "British Big" but "American Small") and it is a point to point.

But it handled everything DCC I have.

Just wanted to share that.

This system makes me happy. It may be a bit limited (I use a Digitrax PR3Xtra on a separate programming track to program decoders, so I don't really need on track programming ability) and it does everything that I need it to do.

No complaints here.

Bachmann... you still make a great product.
14  Discussion Boards / General Discussion / Re: Installing buildings on: February 08, 2018, 10:00:51 PM
Is it a permanent layout?

What I did, was added scenery to my layout, some Durhams Water Putty for ground work, and ballast, and once the buildings were in place, everything looked perfect.

The road bed on EZ track may look a bit tall, but for a main line, it's pretty close to the right height... I really only needed to build up the ground around stations, and some switch tracks... adding static grass to the EZ track in a few areas also gave a nice "lower profile" look to the track.
15  Discussion Boards / General Discussion / Re: DC on a DCC Layout on: February 08, 2018, 09:57:01 PM
All of this is great advice... I too have a few DC engines I run on my layout, and yes, I pull the engines off the track when not in use.

Lately, I've been making an effort, to put a decoder in each engine I can (obviously, it's not happening with the Gandy Dancers, or the DeWitt Clinton, or the John Bull, but the Norris engines have space in the tender, and the motors are already isolated, and it's just two wires to solder)

If your engine has an 8 pin plug (or if you're feeling squirrely enough to hard wire) I would suggest a simple (cheap) decoder for it... if you can.

Otherwise, if all you're doing is using it every so often, and taking it off the track, or putting it on an isolated track, you're still fine with it.
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