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Started by J3a-614, July 09, 2011, 02:48:53 PM

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J3a-614

Well, take a look at what headlines the new products flyer--and it's not the EM-1!  Mogul fans, rejoice:

http://www.bachmanntrains.com/2011_NMRA.pdf

Pacific Northern

#1
What a pleasant surprise the 2-6-0 is.

I wonder why it will be one of the Standard Line locomotives? If it matches the quality of the Bachmann 2-8-4 I will have no qualms.

I for one will be picking up a few of these engines for road service.

In addition, I will also pick up at least two of these to convert to 0-6-0 switchers, will remove the road (cowcatcher)  pilot and replace with a switcher foot board pilot. I notice in the news release the sound decoder is not the Tsunami Bachmann version but a Soundtraxx version. Will try it before I comment on it.

The FA/FB is also a great surprise. Will take a very close look at that engine as well. I wonder if the light boards will be illuminated, that will be the deciding factor. If they do I will buy a least two sets in the CN livery if the green and black is offered.

While I am happy for those who express and interest in the new Spectrum 2-8-8-2 I think it is just too large a locomotive for my layout. I am quite happy with the 2-6-6-2 engines.
Pacific Northern

rogertra

Quote from: Pacific Northern on July 09, 2011, 03:05:21 PM
What a pleasant surprise the 2-6-0 is. I wonder why it will be one of the Standard Line locomotives? I for one will be picking up a few of these engines. I will also pick up at least two of these to convert to 0-6-0 switchers, will remove the cow catcher pilot and replace with a switcher pilot.

Yes, a 2-6-0 is good news and I can see the GER acquiring two or three as I've been asking for a quality 2-6-0 for years. 

But please, let's use the correct terminology.  "Cow Catcher"?  That's a "Road Pilot"! 

"Cowcatcher" is a term used by the unwashed masses and the media, who know squat about anything.  Railfans,  modellers and railroaders know that it's called a "Road Pilot".  BTW, removing the pilot won't give you a switcher, it'll give you an odd looking 2-6-0 missing a pilot truck.  :-)  Yes, I know that the real railroads removed the pilot trucks from some 2=8=0s to make them into 0-8-0 switchers but they still looked odd and the wear on the lead wheels of the 0-8-0, due to the extra and unbalanced weight being carried being carried by the lead axle led to higher maintenance costs.

Same as adding a pilot truck to an 0-6-0 switcher, which is what Bachmann did, doesn't give you a 2-6-0, it gives you an odd looking 0-6-0 switcher with a pilot truck.


andrechapelon

The Mogul's nice even if it isn't suitable for the Southern Pacific and I'll probably get one of the ALCO S-4's in SP tiger stripe.

That being said, I don't want to appear ungrateful and all, but I'm starting to turn blue holding my breath for a Harriman 4-6-2 (light or heavy, Bachmann's choice). I'd also be very appreciative if Bachmann would start supplying separate tenders again.

Andre

h-man

looks like a beefed up ihc mogul..... but fancier ;D ;)

mf5117

wow It's funny you post this, I'm a diesel fan . And after my 4-8-4 got smoked 3 yrs ago I've been looking at the 2-6-0 . I have read that the DCC version doesn't like the operating smoke unit is that true and would you be better off not using the smoke unit while running the DCC 2-6-0 .Or would I be better off going with the DC 2-6-0 . kind of looking at the one with sound in DCC but also would consider the DC version . Input likes and dislikes would be helpful ....

thanks regards : mark f

Doneldon

#6
5117-

Skip the smoke unless you just have to have it. It causes a
mess and can be especially disruptive if you run track fussy
DCC.
                  -- D

rogertra

#7
Smoke? Did I miss something?

Does the newly announced 2-6-0 come with smoke or are we discussing the abomination that Bachmann call a 2-6-0, the switcher with the pony truck stuck on the front?


J3a-614

Looks like we do have a bit of confusion between the current 2-6-0 (which is based on a USRA 0-6-0), and the new engine in the flyer, which is totally different, sharing only the wheel arrangement.

Looks like the strongest prototype for the new 2-6-0 may be from the New Haven:

http://www.railroad.net/articles/railfanning/worktrains/media/MW_19.jpg

Hmm, this was a fairly common locomotive in New England, often with 63-inch drivers; I wonder if Bachmann has in mind the idea of some detail variations to match to Boston & Main engines?

For inspiration:

http://eriksenphoto.smugmug.com/Trains/Standard-gauge/Boston-Maine-Railroad/2510552_SzVCW/1/131823679_GMNED#131823679_GMNED

http://eriksenphoto.smugmug.com/Trains/Standard-gauge/Boston-Maine-Railroad/2510552_SzVCW/1/131823679_GMNED#131823689_VjxMZ

Not a 2-6-0, but from the B&M, and I like the sound. . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJbZI1_G5VA&feature=related

jettrainfan

J3a-614, When i was young (4-6 years old) i watched the i love toy train series (i still like it, but i got no VHS player :( ) and i used to think they called the flying Yankee, the flying ickkie... why? idk. But seeing that reminded me of it.  :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZL7jR1cRb4             

This is how i got my name and i hope that you guys like it.

http://www.youtube.com/user/jettrainfan?feature=mhw4
youtube account

Doneldon

#10
jtf-

It was the Flying Yankee. So named because it was supposed to be fast (it was), and it ran in northern New England, home of the Yankees. No, not the New York Yankees, just regular Yankee. Like the Yankees and the Rebs in the Civil War or Yankees as in war in Europe. You know, Over there and the Yanks are coming and all that.

Which reminds me, apropos of nothing (especially on a model railroad Inet board), that the frustrated British reworked the Over There lines during the Second World War when American servicemen were gathering for D-Day. They said the Americans were "overpaid, oversexed and over here".
                                                                                                                                                                                                      -- D

oldline1

Kinda looks like the old Boyd Models Green Bay & Western Mogul to me. I'm glad to see something small come out. Seems like only Bachmann wants to produce anything smaller than Super Power steamers.
Roger Huber

Pacific Northern

Quote from: mf5117 on July 09, 2011, 08:22:45 PM
wow It's funny you post this, I'm a diesel fan . And after my 4-8-4 got smoked 3 yrs ago I've been looking at the 2-6-0 . I have read that the DCC version doesn't like the operating smoke unit is that true and would you be better off not using the smoke unit while running the DCC 2-6-0 .Or would I be better off going with the DC 2-6-0 . kind of looking at the one with sound in DCC but also would consider the DC version . Input likes and dislikes would be helpful ....

thanks regards : mark f

The 2-6-0 being discussed is not the 2-6-0 to which you are referring. You are referring to a very old product,

Now, having said that I wonder if Bachmann will phase out their old URSA based 0-6-0/2-6-0/2-6-2 varieties?
Pacific Northern

mf5117

so maybe I should wait or just get one to have one ....

J3a-614

Old Line's comments about the Green Bay & Western engine sent me looking, and while it has some similarities, it looks to be an overall smaller engine--though still a neat prototype for those whose tastes run to more modest locomotives:

http://www.greenbayroute.com/191653.htm

While looking for the Green Bay engine, I came across this one, a Pittsburgh product for a shortline in Michigan:

http://www.railroadmichigan.com/ejssteam.jpg

Other links in regard to railway preservation there:

http://www.railroadmichigan.com/eastjordan.html

http://www.railroadmichigan.com/steam.html

Have fun.