HO scale subway-elevated cars.

[Frankford el car]

Now that it look's like Walthers will not be doing another subway train for some time after the Proto 1000 R-21/22 subway sets, will Bachmann consider doing a subway set, either another New York City subway/elevated train, or one in Philadelphia, Boston, or Chicago, in HO scale?

[the Bach-man]

Dear Frank,
Nothing has been announced to date, but I'll pass along your request.
Have fun!
the Bach-man

[tac]

Dear Bach-Man - a few of us over on THIS side would like to see the Portland MAX.....

Just a thort.

Best wishes

tac
www.ovgrs.org

[paulsafety]

Dear Bach-Man - a few of us over on THIS side would like to see the Portland MAX.....

Just a thort.

Best wishes

tac
www.ovgrs.org

If you want to see the Portland MAX being towed by a tow truck, Click Here....http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?66801

Neat modern LRVs, Tac!  Maybe you could also let IHP know (they already make a "low floor" LRV model similar to the low floor cars operated by MAX:
http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?51339 (Prototype)
http://ihphobby.tripod.com/hopages/hohblr.html (Model)

The model even has the little compartment over the center truck, but lacks the second set of doors.

Paul F.

[Amtrak_Titan]

 If bachmann were considering doing Rapid Transit Cars I would like the San Diego Trolley and the Washington Metro in ho.

[Conrail Quality]

Walthers made the D.C. Metro a few years ago in HO. It was a disaster finacially, IIRC. After that mess, Walthers isn't likely to try again.

[paulsafety]

I've gotten a lot of inspiration for transit modeling from this site:
http://mysite.verizon.net/sctransit/nycmta.htm

I'm hoping to attend this year's meet at Rutgers in New Brunswick.  Wouldn't it be great to see pre-production models of the Bachmann Peter Witt at the show?  

I couldn't imagine a more appropriate venue to show off this model to a crowd of interested modelers (i.e. potential consumers)

Paul F.

[paulsafety]

Now that it look's like Walthers will not be doing another subway train for some time after the Proto 1000 R-21/22 subway sets, will Bachmann consider doing a subway set, either another New York City subway/elevated train, or one in Philadelphia, Boston, or Chicago, in HO scale?

I would like to see an IRT Low-V set:
http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?40717

While the Low-V cars are NOT the same as the original 1907 stock that ran on the Market Street Elevated in Philly, they are "close" in appearance, and would be close enough for me to want to see them lettered for each system:
http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?46012

Boston also had similar equipment (the roofline would need some work):
http://davesrailpix.com/boston/htm/bos281.htm

While certainly not a "universal" design, it offers a great starting point for transit modelers.

Paul F.

[paulsafety]

Just a reminder for anyone in the Northern NJ - NYC area. 

The New York City Model Transit Association & The Shore Line Trolley Museum are sponsoring the 2007 Transit Modelers Convention and Trolley Meet.  Here's a link to their site (announcement):
http://mysite.verizon.net/sctransit/2007details.htm

It will be held at Rutgers on October 20th.  Have not heard whether the Bach Man will be there with the new Peter Witt prototypes.

Thanks.

Paul F.

[Dr EMD]

No discount on admission?

[paulsafety]

Of course, this event is also happening on the 20th:
http://www.mnr.org/mnr/html/harmon_openhouse.htm

Hmmm....decisions, decisions.

Paul F.

[Dr EMD]

Prototype = free
Outcome = only pictures

Model = admission
Outcome = a model purchased or expecting a good looking Peter Witt


Go with the Model event - it is priceless

[Frankford el car]

I grew up a block and a half South of the 56th St. el' station in West Philadelphia, and actually rode on the Market Street, and Frankford cars. I'd like to see an actual Market Street car in HO scale, rather than a Hedley (standard body) IRT Low-V, painted for the cars in Philly, but I can live with it, to get a steel-bodied subway-el' car. But if Bachmann does an actual Philly el' car, why not the Frankford cars themselves?

http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?74484

They had an arch roof similar in profile to the Baltimore Peter Witt, and lasted in service from 1922, through 1960, with a half dozen lasting into the early 1980's, as a work train.

On the other hand, if it has to be an IRT Low-V, how about something a little different, such as the 1939 Worlds Fair Low-V's?

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?7173

Not only did they break away from the standard Low-V body style, they operated on the same lines as the standard cars, and were even MU'ed into the same trains with them at times.

[Frankford el car]

If you'd like a Boston subway-elevated car, how about the Osgood-Bradley "East Boston Tunnel" cars, that were used on the MBTA's Blue Line?

http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?18319
http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?18293

Not only did these cars operate on conventional third rail, they also used pantographs on the majority of the outdoor portion of the line. A decided advantage for modelers like myself, who chose to not run these trains "two-rail" like steam or a diesel, and don't have "live" third rails on layout trackage.

[paulsafety]

I grew up in Aldan, riding the Philadelphia Suburban Transit trolley line to 69th Street Terminal, and rode the M-3 Budd cars (Almond Joys) to work in Philly on the El (before relocating out of the Philly area).

I like the idea of a model of the "Frankford Cars", too. 

I only suggested that modeling the "Market Street Cars" (similar in rough appearance to older IRT Low-V cars) would enable the manufacturer (Bachmann, we'd hope! ) to also letter them for three city systems.  This would appeal to a broader range of modelers to cost justify producing the model (Bachmann needs to earn their profits, too -- this is the USA after all )

My real interest is to see Bachmann produce a freight/milk/goods trolley like Red Arrow #7:
http://davesrailpix.com/pw/htm/pw073.htm
This freight motor was initially used to carry goods from farm to city (transfer to wagosn and PRT freight motors at 63rd street):
http://davesrailpix.com/pw/htm/pw196.htm

Another car would be this one that was designed to run from West Chester to 69th, and then up on the El to Center City (note end doors to allow conductors between coupled cars):
http://davesrailpix.com/pw/htm/pw202.htm
This interurban car could, while specific to the P&WTC, could be decorated for many lines and I think modelers would love it.

Of course, this mode of operation (trolley on the el) was never implemented in Philly, but was seen in Chicago -- CNS&M and the A&E lines).

Paul F.