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N & W passenger cars - preliminary photos

Started by sully14, August 17, 2007, 12:01:22 PM

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Williamson

Quote from: brokemoto on August 28, 2007, 08:46:17 PM
N&W painted their passenger cars a red similar to that of the PRR .  As the PRR controlled the N&W for some time, some of the PRR cars may have run on the N&W and may even have been sold to it, but a N&W modeller or an SPF would know more about that than I do.


N&W red is "brighter" than PRR red. Similar though, especially when "aged". PRR did not "control" N&W, N&W did things as they saw fit. N&W and PRR did run some joint trains, where certain equipment was pooled.

N&W did purchase some ex-PRR passenger cars in the 1930s and refurbished them for their own use. Also, N&W had built head end cars virtually to the same design as the PRR B60.

brokemoto

Quote from: Williamson on August 29, 2007, 12:11:18 PM
Quote from: brokemoto on August 28, 2007, 08:46:17 PM
N&W painted their passenger cars a red similar to that of the PRR .  As the PRR controlled the N&W for some time


N&W red is "brighter" than PRR red. Similar though, especially when "aged". PRR did not "control" N&W, N&W did things as they saw fit.


I added the emphasis to 'similar' from my original post.

PRR, or whatever its holding company was, owned a majority of the N&W stock for some time.  Anyone or any entity that owns a majority of the stock names the Board of Directors, which gives same effective control.

Operationally, yes, controlled entities will often do things as the mid-level and junior management sees fit, and, as long as the dividends keep coming, the controller will allow this to continue. 

This was also the case with the P&LE.  Yes, there were NYC signs all over the property, and 230 Park Avenue did begrudgingly avoid micromanaging, but when things did not work well (as in the case of the H-8s), or the dividends stopped coming (as they did in the few years right after the Second War), 230 Park Avenue did get involved.

As I understand it, things did not go as badly in Roanoake and Hampton Roads as they did in Pittsburgh, so Philadelphia was happy to let things well enough alone, as opposed to what 230 Park Avenue thought necessary.

PRR did get a little more involved when it controlled the B&O from the very late nineteenth century until the very early twentieth, but even then , Philacelphia's micromanaging was mostly limited to the acquisition of some new power that turned out to be copies of PRR designs.   This makes sense as it wipes out development costs and even saves on construction costs, as the tooling and processes for the construction of existing designs are already in place.  Lower costs mean larger dividends; very important.

Williamson

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Quote from: brokemoto on August 30, 2007, 11:04:19 AM

PRR, or whatever its holding company was, owned a majority of the N&W stock for some time.  Anyone or any entity that owns a majority of the stock names the Board of Directors, which gives same effective control.

Majority? No. About a third (over 30%).  ;)

N&W operated autonomously.

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Man talk about an off topic.

Anyways,Sully your cars look great!They look really close to a set of original con-cor cars.You should be proud!
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