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Started by Dusten Barefoot, March 16, 2007, 07:59:27 PM

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Dusten Barefoot

I don't have fire bricks in if that is what you are asking. The egines are gonna have working outside pistons on each side. The fire box is under the boiler and it has coal to to burn. The fire box is wider than the wheels right now because the fire wont burn well in a narrow size like the one you see on the models. I am not tring to compete for age around steam or any thing, I am only saying that you don't here many youth out in the model railroad hobbie or the railroad, you also dont here many kids wonting to improve model railroads. What do you mean when you say mechanical or steam; I plan on running the models as if they were the real deal but smaller, I have no plans for using cranks and and gears and shafts unless it is a shay.
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Dusten

Spule 4

No brick, but that does bring up another question as far as insulation.  A late uncle had a 3/4" scale 4-4-0 model chock full of asbestos ::).

With your work on your internally fired boiler design, I am surprised you are not following on what I am asking how you are drafting it.  So, I am assuming you will have to use a fan (mechanical) or the like, a steam draft would be too small for a loco with that small of a diameter boiler when firing prior to operation when the exhaust can take over? 

Honestly, I am amazed you are taking the coal route, a lot of work tough to get right and get it to fire, not like butane or meths (which I prefer).  As far as the firebox, it sounds like it will look like a Wooten design when done. 

Please, post photos!
Garrett

Dusten Barefoot

Like I said, I am only 15, and I still have a lot to learn about all the workings on the steam engine. I did not know what you ment on draft, I thought you ment the heat draft which way the heat went; yes I am using a fan for my loco, the 2 are located in the tender. And yes it is mechanical, also I do not know what a wooten  design is, you'll have to show me; speaking of showing I have no pictures to present because I do not own one of those cameras that can put pictures on the web.
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http://www.johnsonsdepot.com/crumley/tour1.htm
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Dusten

Spule 4

Quote from: Dusten on May 11, 2007, 07:09:12 PM
Like I said, I am only 15, and I still have a lot to learn about all the workings on the steam engine. I did not know what you ment on draft, I thought you ment the heat draft which way the heat went; yes I am using a fan for my loco, the 2 are located in the tender. And yes it is mechanical, also I do not know what a wooten  design is, you'll have to show me; speaking of showing I have no pictures to present because I do not own one of those cameras that can put pictures on the web.

Here is the wooten design, larger grate area, sounds like what you are doing (not the camelback part tho).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelback_type_locomotive#The_Wootten_Firebox

Good luck, and you might want to find another live steam person in your area for some assistance.
Garrett

Dusten Barefoot

Not to pesster Big-B, But can you get a update on the 4-6-0?
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the Bach-man

Dear Dusten,
What 4-6-0? Passing along a request does not make it an active project. If it should become so you may be sure I'll let you know!
Have fun!
the Bach-man

Dusten Barefoot

I don't want to see this thread shot down in flames. So what in the east have we not found? I for one want bachmann to make some nice little O-scale figures, I know about other places and manufactures but I would like some models to fit in the cab of a of a On30 loco instead of having to do something to make it fit in the cab. So what I am saying or asking is for some O-scale crew figures, it would look nice, also I have see G-scale models of Sherman Pippen of the ET&WNC and other crews produced by some model company and wonder if bachmann can make real train crews form other railroads like Sherman Pippen, C.Y Crumly, and others off the ET&WNC RR line and maybe some off of other historic narrow gauge lines.
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http://www.johnsonsdepot.com/crumley/tour1.htm
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Dusten

ebtnut

The real issue with figures is that they don't bend like we do.  Getting into the cab of a real locomotive, especially a deckless type, took a certain amount of squeezing, leg crossing, and other acrobatic moves.  A cast metal engineer or fireman doesn't have that luxury.  Therefore, surgery is usually required.  I have had to cut the legs off figures in order to get them to sit in the seat properly.  More than figures, though, I wish Bachmann or someone would do some proper 1/4" scale autos from the '30's and '40's.  I'm tired of having to compromise with the 1/43 or 1/50 stuff that is generally available.

Dusten Barefoot

How about a soft plastic that can bend like them dolls you see for kids on camercials and mess. Or a rubber like compund were you can bend them.
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http://www.johnsonsdepot.com/crumley/tour1.htm
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Dusten Barefoot

Who is going to the 2011 national narrow gauge convention? It is being heald in Tweetsie country in Hickory NC. And who ever is going to the 2007 NNGC please tell me what was all there in the 2ft country.
I know I pester the hell out of everone over a 4-6-0
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http://www.johnsonsdepot.com/crumley/tour1.htm
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Dusten

Dusten Barefoot

Can anyone help me with scaleing? I am building a replica of the bachmann On30 2-6-0, here is the problem. The boiler is bigger than the bachmann 2-6-0s boiler. Here is the real problem, what does the number in 1-4th scale mean, dos'nt mean 1in.=4ft in scale? Note this train I am building is to run under steam.
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ebtnut

Dusten, your question is a bit vague.  1/4, or quarter scale, would be 3 inches = 1 foot.  Building a Bachmann-style Mogul at that scale would give you a loco and tender about 10 feet long.  I suspect what you're asking about is 1/4  INCH scale, or 1:48, also called O scale.  The Bachmann models are built to 1/4" scale (1/4" = 1 foot), and run on HO gauge track, which is a bit over 30" gauge in 1/4" scale. 

Dusten Barefoot

Thanks for the info. Well I guss this topic is dead. Talk to ya'll latter.
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WVM_guy

Yes, I'm necro-posting, however this IS relevant.

West Virginia had it's share of narrow gauge.

Mann's Creek (interchanged with the C&O)

West Virginia Midland (interchanged with the Western MD)

West Virginia and Pittsburgh (later B&O-owned)

Cairo and Kanawha

West Virginia Central (standard gauged and merged into the Western MD)

Any of these lines could be modernized to the 40s-50s (like I would do with the WVM which went out of business in the early 30s as a common carrier, but continued to exist as the Pardee and Curtin Lumber Co).

My WVM would use the oxide red EBT hoppers. Should the Bach-man decide to bless us with a steel EBT type boxcar, it will get those too.


Dusten Barefoot

Never thought this topic would see the light of day again ;D.  Could you give me a little more info on the WVM narrow gauge?
Dusten
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http://www.johnsonsdepot.com/crumley/tour1.htm
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Dusten