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superthomasfan

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« on: January 17, 2009, 07:41:00 PM »

As you know, so far, Bachmann has made 0-4-0Ts, 0-4-2Ts, and 2-4-4Ts. But I think Bachmann should go beyond those tank engines to other types.
Such as...

The 0-4-4T

http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=455

The 0-4-0CA or compressed air

http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=5860

The 0-6-0T

http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=1973

The 0-6-2T

http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=392

and The 4-4-0T

http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=850

I hope Bachmann considers these ideas.  Grin


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railtwister

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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2009, 09:32:51 PM »

I would love to see a 2-6-2T logging loco. A similar 2-8-2T would probably be a bit too large for my purposes, unless a smaller protoype with this wheel arrangement could be found. I've always admired the Peninsula Terminal 2-6-2T done in HO Brass many years ago by NWSL/Toby, even though it was standard gauge. Something with similar proportions but in 30" gauge would be wonderful! But then again, if it's a 2-6-2 we're wishing for, an On30 SR&RL #24 would go perfectly with the 3 On30 Forneys I already have...

Bill Nielsen
Florida On30 Renegades
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superthomasfan

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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2009, 10:32:52 PM »

I found some more ideas including...

A 2-6-2T

http://narrowmind.railfan.net/BLW/262T-paulista-81.jpg

A 0-8-2T

http://narrowmind.railfan.net/082TCyprus4.jpg

A 2-4-2T+Tender

http://narrowmind.railfan.net/242T-tenderMARR2.jpg

A 0-6-6-0T

http://narrowmind.railfan.net/0660T_FCdG.JPG

A 2-6-6-2T

http://narrowmind.railfan.net/2662T_Uintah_left.JPG

A 2-8-8-2T

http://narrowmind.railfan.net/2882T_FNdC_left.JPG

And a 0-4-4-0T Farlie

http://www.enuii.org/vulcan_foundry/mountaineer_denver_and_rio_grande.jpg

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ebtnut

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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2009, 02:32:36 PM »

One related loco that I think has been sorely overlooked is a "fireless cooker".  These were engines with fat, highly-insulated boilers that used superheated water from a stationary boiler.  They were fairly common in industrial settings.  Because there was no firebox, they needed less serious maintenance.  There were two in the D.C. area at power plants into the 1970's, and a couple more up in Pennsylvania in that same period.  I think Porter made most of them, but one of the D.C. locos came from Heisler.
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ebtnut

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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2009, 02:39:03 PM »

Here's a pretty typical fireless loco down in Tweetsie country.

http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=1145
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superthomasfan

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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2009, 03:18:03 PM »

Sorry to be the bear of bad news, but that's not narrow gauge. However, I like the idea of a fireless engine. Mr. Bachmann, if you are there, how about a fireless engine?  Smiley Grin Cheesy Wink Kiss
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Jim Goodridge

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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2009, 02:10:17 PM »

As you know, so far, Bachmann has made 0-4-0Ts, 0-4-2Ts, and 2-4-4Ts. But I think Bachmann should go beyond those tank engines to other types.
Such as...

The 0-4-4T

http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=455

The 0-4-0CA or compressed air

http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=5860

The 0-6-0T

http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=1973

The 0-6-2T

http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=392

and The 4-4-0T

http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=850

I hope Bachmann considers these ideas.  Grin



The Duchess (0-6-0T)was originally built to 30 inch gauge for the Wellington Collieries Railway on Vancouver Island.  See Robert D. Turner's "Vancouver Island Railways".  It was later regauged to 3 foot and sold to the White Pass and Yukon and also served on the Atlin Southern and then went back to the WP&Y.

This would be a true 30 inch prototype.

Best Regards
Jim
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superthomasfan

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« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2009, 07:16:41 PM »

Here are a few more ideas.

http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=100

http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=664

http://narrowmind.railfan.net/040T_GTP.JPG

http://narrowmind.railfan.net/BLW/BLW-ng-042T.jpg
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Mister Lee

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« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2009, 12:41:06 PM »

I have come to believe that you can detect demand for certain types of locomotives by keeping an eye on the number of conversions or kit-bashings of stock locomotives. The more locomotive kits the aftermarket manufacturer sells, the higher the pent-up demand.

A certain well-known aftermarket manufacturer has put out a kit to convert Bachmann's HO scale standard-gauge 0-6-0T into an On30 tank engine with or without pilot or trailing trucks. I've bought such a tank engine and  I've just ordered such a kit.

I think that one of the Hawaiian plantation tank locomotives might be a good bet.
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superthomasfan

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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2009, 02:25:03 PM »

Here are some more ideas. I've heard that Accucraft is making a model of an 0-6-6T.

http://www.ironhorse129.com/prototype/MasonBogie/american_fork_044t.htm

http://www.ironhorse129.com/prototype/MasonBogie/brplrr_244t.htm

http://www.ironhorse129.com/prototype/MasonBogie/CPS_0-6-4.htm

http://www.ironhorse129.com/prototype/MasonBogie/Dup_286t.htm

http://www.ironhorse129.com/prototype/MasonBogie/dspp_286t.htm

http://www.ironhorse129.com/prototype/MasonBogie/dspprr_266t.htm

http://www.ironhorse129.com/prototype/MasonBogie/mexico_266t.htm

http://www.ironhorse129.com/prototype/MasonBogie/NewBrunswick.htm

http://www.ironhorse129.com/prototype/MasonBogie/npcrr044.htm

http://www.ironhorse129.com/prototype/MasonBogie/npcrr066.htm

http://www.ironhorse129.com/prototype/MasonBogie/NS_Georgia_044T.htm

http://www.ironhorse129.com/prototype/MasonBogie/nymbrr_044t.htm

http://www.ironhorse129.com/prototype/MasonBogie/peach_bottom_066t.htm

http://www.ironhorse129.com/prototype/MasonBogie/RiverduLoup.htm

http://www.ironhorse129.com/prototype/MasonBogie/Stockton_044t.htm

Note: If these are too many ideas, please don't get mad at me. I'm just a train fan. Grin

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Hamish K

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« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2009, 06:11:53 PM »

There are indeed many many possible prototypes. As Bachmann is likely to have room for only one, or possibly two, new tank locomotives we need to consider priorities. As I have posted previously I think there is a gap in Bachmann's range for an 18-30 ton, 2-6-2 or 0-62 tank locomotive.  This would provide a larger locomotive quite different to the Porters. As an Australian I would love the 30 inch gauge "Puffing Billy: Baldwin desigend 2-6-2s - there was also a similat, though not identical, 30 inch gauge loco in Hawaii. There were also, as has been discussed before,  30 inch and 3 foot gauge 0-6-2ts in hawaii. My choice is one of the above.

Hamish
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superthomasfan

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« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2009, 06:40:28 PM »

Just out of curiosity, are there any narrow gauge steam dummys? Huh?
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Nick_Burman

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« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2009, 07:37:07 PM »

A 2-6-2 or 0-6-2, T or ST (my personal preference is for a 2-6-2ST) would be a VERY welcome addition...

Cheers NB
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aussie30inch


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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2009, 01:47:38 AM »

hello everyone

Its again a hard choice I love the 2-6-2t Na's like at Puffing Billy and would be a first chice for me, but in saying that the Hawaian 0-6-2st would most likely sale well and would be hard to resist


Geoff
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BIG BEAR

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« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2009, 05:03:32 AM »


   IMHO, exept the Puffing Billly, all these are stupid looking, UGLY
& childish looking & I truly hope Bachmann doesn't waste 10's of thousands of dollars making designs & dies for this junk.
   Kit bashing is an art for type of junk. GO NUTS!

             But Enjoy,
         Barry
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