4-6-0 and 4-4-0 road numbers close to NYC

[faraway]

I've two Spectrum 4-6-0 high boiler, one 4-6-0 low boilder and two Spectrum 4-4-0 black undecorated.
I would like to letter them as close as possible to NYC prototypes. Can I get some help what road numbers would be the best choice at about 1930? That should be the old number system of NYC and some 4-4-0 should be still in service.

#NYC road number? 4-6-0 high boiler
#NYC road number? 4-6-0 low boiler
#NYC road number? 4-4-0

Thank you
Reinhard

ps. I found #1233 used for a 4-6-0 high boiler by Bachmann but that number finds no match in the book "Guide to north American steam locomotives".

[Pacific Northern]

From Fallen Flags

4-4-0

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/nyc/nyc-s1038ass.jpg

4-6-0

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/nyc/nyc-s881g.jpg

[faraway]

4-6-0
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/nyc/nyc-s881g.jpg

That looks like a "medium" boiler
Is it close to the high or low boiler version?

[Pacific Northern]

4-6-0
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/nyc/nyc-s881g.jpg

That looks like a "medium" boiler
Is it close to the high or low boiler version?

You will need to check for yourself

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/nyc/nyc-steam.html

[faraway]

You will need to check for yourself

Sure, will do so. I assumed that question is an old one and the answer is well known by NYC fans. Thanks for showing the direction.

[Atlantic Central]

faraway,

The 4-6-0 photo is definately closer to the "high boiler" version by Bachmann and the Bachmann undec model has a reasonablely close tender as well.

While many use the "high boiler" "low boiler" discription, the real difference is the driver size. The loco in the photo definately has drivers in the 63" range not the smaller (lower) 52" ones.

Sheldon

[faraway]

Bachmann offers the 4-6-0 with a road number of #1233. I can not find that number in my book and fallen flags. Fallen flags has #1235. But that engine is much larger and newer.
Can Bachmann provide any further information about the #1233? Is #1233 the new or the old road number valid before 1937?

[Pacific Northern]

Another source of information for you

http://www.catskillarchive.com/rrextra/Page0002.Html

There is Baldwin information and also ATSF, sorry no NYC but sheds light on the Blaldwin designs.

This engine has 69" drivers, certainly resembles the Spectrum 4-6-0

http://www.catskillarchive.com/rrextra/blatpg10.Html

Another engine which resembles the Spectrum steamer this time the 2-8-0

http://www.catskillarchive.com/rrextra/blatpg15.Html

[faraway]

The NYC steam page at fallen flag has a complete of all NYC steam engines in 1930 with description and drawings.
I checked all C and F class engines. None of them match the Spectrum 4-4-0 or 4-6-0.

Conclusion:
These engines can not be "converted" into NYC engines in 1930 by decals only. They are not even close. The F46 looks similar but it is a ALCO engine and not a Baldwin. There is nothing that comes close to the low boiler version.