I know I know....one more post about the 2-8-0's and someone will crack...however I'll make this short and simple.
I plan on doing a kitbash of a 2-8-0 using the Bachmann 2-8-0, i need to remove the domes...are they sepratly added or molded on? I hope they are sepratly added as I will need one of them.
They are separate pieces, but they are glued in so well, they seem like one piece.
I have read somewhere that a new, sharp #11 X-Acto blade, heated, will make the cutting and removal process much easier if you can't get them off any other way.
Hope you have great sucess in their removal!
lanny nicolet
That will make my kit bash so much easier.....thanks guys I'll post pics once its complete.
One more... is it Easy to remount the headlight on teh engine? I need to change its position to the top of the smoke box.
Remounting the headlight from the outside is pretty straightforward. I've already done that for my ICRR kit bashed conso (basically just installing a more prototypical IC headlight).
I would suggest that your main concern in moving the headlight to the top of the boiler is what is 'inside'. Will the light connection inside move to the new postion. Changing headlights and keeping the same position as I did is pretty easy ... you may run into a few more problems when you change the position ... but I doubt it will be an 'impossible' task.
best wishes on getting it done!
lanny nicolet
B&O Fan,
Look at Jon Grant's post of March 4th. He kitbashed a Bachmann Spectrum into an Illinois Central 2-8-0 and posted pictures. Great work!
Sorry to jump in anothers thread but I cannot get anyone to tell me how to remove the smoke box front on a Spectrum 4-4-0 engine to access the headlight terminals. I tried Bachmanns via the site twice and twice by snail mail. I think I tried some weeks ago. Maybe one of you has done this before.
Thanks in advance.
rikc9
"how to remove the smoke box front on a Spectrum 3-4-0 engine"
A 3-4-0? What the heck is a "3-4-0"?
They usually pop out with a little assistance.
I have tried quite a few times. The edge of the smoke box front starts to bend and will break off if I keep trying. I also asked Bachmann if they carry smoke box front parts but they refuse to answer.
I burnt out the LED so I am not looking for free parts. I will live with it. I am sure customer service has all the business they need. Thanks anyway.
rikc9
Rikc9,
Over the week end I talked to a friend of mine who had the misfortune of having his Bachmann 4-6-0 take a nose dive off his board and hit a concrete floor. While examining it he noticed that the smoke box front had, ever-so-slightly, moved. There was a small area in which he could insert a thin bladed flat screwdriver and slowly twist-press the smoke box outward. He pressed out a small section on one side, then moved his screwdriver to an adjacent section, pressed that section out, and went around the entire perimeter of the smoke box several times, forcing out little by little, the front. Finally, he was able to remove the entire front to expose the light and wiring.
Hope this may help you.
Quote from: Bill Baker on March 19, 2007, 11:00:54 AM
Rikc9,
Over the week end I talked to a friend of mine who had the misfortune of having his Bachmann 4-6-0 take a nose dive off his board and hit a concrete floor. While examining it he noticed that the smoke box front had, ever-so-slightly, moved. There was a small area in which he could insert a thin bladed flat screwdriver and slowly twist-press the smoke box outward. He pressed out a small section on one side, then moved his screwdriver to an adjacent section, pressed that section out, and went around the entire perimeter of the smoke box several times, forcing out little by little, the front. Finally, he was able to remove the entire front to expose the light and wiring.
Hope this may help you.
Hi Bill
Ouch, that must hurt. Was the damage very bad?
I just tried again and it it came loose. This time I started at the bottom of the smoke box. There is a slight bit of damage but I think I can take care or that. Now I will be able to replace the head light with the older box type. I love it when a plan comes together.
Thanks for the help.
rikc9
Hello Everyone
if you are not worried about the paint on the locomotive, use Castrol superclean.
this stuff loosens glue, it removes paint from plastic also.
get the one in the antifreeze size jug, then get a small rubber maid container with a lid, one that is 8 inches long.
put the engine body in there after you removed all of the metal parts, let it soak for a day or two and the glue will be loose
remember to wear rubber gloves, this stuff is caustic to metal and skin.
it easily washes off with soap and water
take care
George
Update on project:
Day 1: removed domes, removed cab, fitted new cab and firebox.
Project is going better then expected.
Pics to be shown soon once cab is attached same with firebox
Photo Update...
2-8-0 Camel Back
(http://bb.1asphost.com/TMSOCR/camel%20002.JPG)
Still needs to be painted and a few minor details.
That looks great! Bachmann here is an excellent idea for the next run of steam engines! Camel Backs are very un-represented. If the Mantuas were re-detailed they would be nice but your 2-8-0 is much more typical of the era.
Wade
Neato! 8) That looks good. I like it.
There was an article in MR several years ago on how to remove the Bachmann domes If I can find it I will post it. As I recall, the author used some sort of ACC debonder but I will not personally recommend this until it can be confirmed by the MR article which also included other tips for modifying Bachmann steam locos
Peter Smith, Memphis
Very nice work! Great looking model conversion.
I found that, oddly enough, the sand dome popped right out of my Spec Conso ... unfortunately other parts did not 'pop' out. The boiler front, which on my Spec 4-8-2 came out with no problem was glued in and I ended up marring it trying to release what I thought was a just a 'too tight fit'.
It seems like most of the detail parts on the Spectrum Conso, when viewing from inside the boiler, are glued in. The walkway and the piping seemed to come off fairly easily, but other stuff was really stubborn about being removed :-)
I posted this in another thread, but here, again, is the first step of my kit bash progress on my Spec consoliation ... aiming for an ICRR #908. It's fun, but scary too! The Specs are beautifully detailed, and it's really a weird, uncomfortable sensation to 'scrape' off that first piece of boiler detail!
(http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/3195/908leftsideboilerub9.jpg)
lanny nicolet
I didn't have a problem getting the Steam dome off(what i needed out of all the domes) it was the Sand Dome i had troubles with. Gonna try to finish the 2-8-0 up today.few small detail parts to add then Its done
Is the cab attached to the boiler yet? How do you make the Wooten firebox? One reason for the under representation of the camelback is the simple fact that there weren't that many of them and they didn't run on that many railroads -- all smaller Eastern roads - CNJ, Erie, and a few others.
Gene
The firebox and Cab are from an IHC 2-6-0 Camelback. I had two of them both painted in B&O(one OT Factory Paint, one painted by me) I'm going to convert the Mogul into a standered Steamer once i get some Parts in at work.
I had an IHC Camel Back once, it could barely pull a load. So now I use it for parts... :-\
The article for detailing a Bachmann 2-8-0 including removal of the domes appeared in the November 1999 issue of Model Railroader page 78 entitled " A Central Vermont 2-8-0 in HO Scale.
Peter Smith, Memphis