While searching google earth I came across this arrangement in Hamburg, Germany Never saw any thing like this before and was wondering if there was a logical explanation? You can clearly see the areas where there were 2 roundhouses and the ties for each turntables ring rail and the center bearings are still in place Location is south, south west of Evendi Arena in Hamburg
(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u134/pdleth/doubleturntable.jpg)
I only see one roundhouse. Is it possible that the two "disks" are the turntable pit and the turntable itself? Perhaps an RAF 500 pound bomb moved it back in 1943-44.
Gene
actually there are the remains of 2 roundhouses, if you google it and get a closer look you will see the ties are still there for 2 separate roundhouses
Maybe one was destroyed, or razed, and they decided that if they were gonna have to rebuild the roundhouse anyway, they might as well build it in a new position, which would be just a tiny bit better?
Just a guess....
CAr shop and engine shop... like Roanoke?
Several major engine facilities - like Roanoke - had more than one roundhouse and turntable. I'm thinking that Spencer, NC did, and Steamtown.
Gene
but overlaping turntables?
almost an opical illussion, seems one- a new one was built over the unfilled pit of an old one, with all the leads from the lower one. the shadows overlap too. Has to be a new one on top. How old is this? a goggle earth? 1990's or newer huh? wow. Wasn't a double exposure was it?
I got another answer at another site and here it is. As originally built, both turntables were smaller and touching. In the 20's both were enlarged and overlapped. Circuitry prevented them from colliding. Because the area was so small nothing else could be done. Enlarging and overlapping the TT's allowed keeping the roundhouses and tracks in place and saved them money.
I got another answer at another site and here it is. As originally built, both turntables were smaller and touching. In the 20's both were enlarged and overlapped. Circuitry prevented them from colliding. Because the area was so small nothing else could be done. Enlarging and overlapping the TT's allowed keeping the roundhouses and tracks in place and saved them money.
This is the most logical assumption so far. I believe you are correct.
Rich
Yep, but I bigger question is 'why'? The ol' roundhouse footprint is nearly a perfect circle, you'd think one big TT would do the trick....Tutonic engineering huh? All the top one's weight must have rested on the center bearing too....wow.
This is not an error. There were two overlapping turntables.
See here: -
http://www.germansteam.co.uk/Archive/1969Sept.jpg (http://www.germansteam.co.uk/Archive/1969Sept.jpg)
Parts of the overlapping turntables can be seen.
Well now if thats just not the damnest thing i ever saw.....but pictures don't lie ;D
Have to send that shot to the boy .....
Wie haf weys...
Gene
vie haf veis...
Now if we could JUST get the Bachmann to produce one of these double turntables we'd have EVERYTHING! ;D
Rich, the German "w" is pronounced as "v" is pronounced in English. :-X
Gene
Thats really cool. What was it for though, just to have more stalls?
Quote from: pdlethbridge on March 06, 2008, 12:02:59 PM
Now if we could JUST get the Bachmann to produce one of these double turntables we'd have EVERYTHING! ;D
Nah, we need one of the M Class 0-8-8-0's in plastic! ;)
Gene;
I realize that; I was just funnin' ya.
RIch
In Spanish the "V" is pronounced as "B", and "W" is almost non existent. You know, as in G. W. LOL
Bob
Is it silent like the P in pbathtub?
Wier haben wege.
Two years of college German and all I remember is "bier." what does that tell me?
you have a good head?
Well to think of a double roundhouse is likely just another thing Germans thought of first. We might of had double roundhouses, but I doubt it. It is good to have a double roundhouse still standing, they should open up a German Trains muesuem, It would be good to the economy, but the USA really needs to change something in the economy. But I don't really care for economies yet. So I just suggest it would be pretty cool if they opened up a mueseum there...
Change of adittude, dude, really- my dog died.
I am sad, but it dosen't pain me much. Anyway, it was going to happen sooner or later...
But a German Muesuem would rock.
:) I just hope the Germans do it quick before the turntable is scraped.
What About?!
DOUBLE TRACK TURNTABLES!
Sorry about your dog. Last May I had to put down Sioux who at only seven, had incurable cancer.
BTW, it's "Bier," all German nouns are capitalized, all the time. English used to do that, too.
Gene
Yeah, it's sad, but I have my second dog. So it's not much to worry about.
It's harsh for you to put it to sleep, mine's had a liver tomer and it burst killing her instantly... But it's okay, you get over it after awhile, anyway, wouldn't it be awesome if bachmann made-
A model double turntable in every scale!
That would be so awesome, I could really use a double turntable to save room.
And about your Sioux, really- at 7?
Mine died at 6! That is werid!
And a couple days back I did the free newsletter from Athearn.
Silly enough, they e-mailed their subscribers saying they accidently had to recall some locomotives with incorrect road numbers. It's not like their rare, they got recalled before on the market.
:D Silly Athearn, you may make some trains I like, but you don't have what Bachmann does!
It is not a DOUBLE TRACK TURNTABLES, but two turntables that over lapped like a figure eight pushed together and serving two roundhouses.
Quote from: RAM on May 01, 2008, 09:27:03 PM
It is not a DOUBLE TRACK TURNTABLES, but two turntables that over lapped like a figure eight pushed together and serving two roundhouses.
I noticed that, I was just commenting that it would be interesting to see double track turntables.
GG,
I think that would be cool...
In 1986, a Southern Pacific and Milwaukee Road turntable was operational since 1945, but on 1986, It was damaged by a earthquake, SP never fixed it, and MR, they lost ownership when SP stopped allowing MR to use it...