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Title: insulated vs electrified forgs
Post by: jlc41 on February 16, 2016, 06:18:28 PM
I have a DC layout. I need some turnouts. Looks like Peco fits what I am doing. However I don't know which is better, the Insulated or electrified? Any advise would be very appreciated.   
Title: Re: insulated vs electrified forgs
Post by: jbrock27 on February 16, 2016, 06:34:01 PM
I use insulated on my DC layout just fine ;)
Title: Re: insulated vs electrified forgs
Post by: Trainman203 on February 16, 2016, 06:44:44 PM
I haven't yet seen any forgs on my railroad. :o :o :D :D
Title: Re: insulated vs electrified forgs
Post by: RAM on February 16, 2016, 09:53:52 PM
with electrified frogs you don't have locomotives stall on the turnout.
Title: Re: insulated vs electrified forgs
Post by: jbrock27 on February 17, 2016, 07:02:37 AM
I don't have (DC) locos stall on my insulated turnouts ;)
Title: Re: insulated vs electrified forgs
Post by: Len on February 17, 2016, 08:02:50 AM
I've done my time in the insulated vs powered frog wars. So, except to say I use both depening on the situation, I'm staying out of this one. ;) ;) ;D

Len
Title: Re: insulated vs electrified forgs
Post by: jward on February 17, 2016, 09:42:58 AM
if you are using peco, insulated frog vs electro frog has a different meaning than with most other brands. the peco electro frog switches are power routing, meaning that the frog and associated rails on both routes are the same polarity. which polarity depend on which way the switch is thrown. the train will run on the route selected, but anything on the other route will not move because both rails on that track are the same polarity.

the advantage for me was that I could simplify the wiring in stub end yard and spur tracks by letting the switch itself cut power to those sections, they didn't need to be wired to block toggles. but if you are using them on double ended siding tracks, you need to insulate the rails between the two end switches or else you will get a short circuit every time you throw jut one switch.
Title: Re: insulated vs electrified forgs
Post by: jbrock27 on February 17, 2016, 12:30:53 PM
Quote from: jward on February 17, 2016, 09:42:58 AM
if you are using peco, insulated frog vs electro frog has a different meaning than with most other brands.

I am very glad you pointed that out Mr. Ward, as I should clarify that I use Atlas or similar brand turnouts and not PECO.  My apologies if my answers have created any confusion and/or misdirection. :-[
Title: Re: insulated vs electrified forgs
Post by: jward on February 17, 2016, 01:20:22 PM
atlas have a frog that is totally insulated from the rest of the switch, and can be powered is so desired using an atlas snap relay wired in parallel with the switch motor.