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Title: On30 version of the large scale 2-6-6-2T?
Post by: RRPETE on April 10, 2009, 12:20:20 PM
Does Bachmann have any plans to bring the 2-6-6-2T to On30?
Title: Re: On30 version of the large scale 2-6-6-2T?
Post by: ebtnut on April 10, 2009, 01:40:24 PM
bachmann doesn't announce any future project plans until they are well under way, and then only at major train events (Nuremburg, NMRA show, Narrow Gauge convention).  We've all been waiting several years for an On30 version of the Heisler.  I wouldn't hold your breath on the 2-6-6-2.
Title: Re: On30 version of the large scale 2-6-6-2T?
Post by: El Loco on April 12, 2009, 12:05:17 PM
Man that would be one :o behemoth of a Locomotive in 0n30!
Title: Re: On30 version of the large scale 2-6-6-2T?
Post by: rustyrails on April 12, 2009, 01:18:16 PM
Okay, here's a suggestion.  Both Bachmann and Mantua (Model Power) have 2-6-6-2 locomotives available, so the mechanism is there.  Who's going to be first to kit-bash a superstructure?  I think I'd start with the Mantua loco since it's already a tank engine, and begin by fitting an O scale cab and some detail parts.  Look up some of the Dave Frary articles about HOn30 (HO scale, n gauge track) for inspiration.  Have Fun!!!
Rusty
Title: Re: On30 version of the large scale 2-6-6-2T?
Post by: El Loco on April 12, 2009, 02:04:31 PM
Backwoods miniatures  produces the cab & details to convert the Mantua HO 2662 Mallet into a 0n30 version.  Rather if its correct or not I haven't a clue, But its on their web site. ;)
Title: Re: On30 version of the large scale 2-6-6-2T?
Post by: rustyrails on April 12, 2009, 02:22:45 PM
I just checked out the Backwoods site....how COOL is that!!!!!!!   ;D
Rusty
Title: Re: On30 version of the large scale 2-6-6-2T?
Post by: az2rail on April 12, 2009, 02:23:53 PM
I think that the Backwoods kit does'nt look right. I say this because it is an O scale cab on a HO engine, makes everything else look small. But that's just me, AND it is a option to get a mallet.

I would prefer that Bachmann made theirs, but MMI lists the Unitah, and Sumpter Valley 2-6-6-2's as upcoming engines. When they would be made would is hard to say, it could be a couple of years away. I would bet that Bachmann knows this, and their decision on whether to make a mallet or not could be influenced by that.

Bruce

Title: Re: On30 version of the large scale 2-6-6-2T?
Post by: El Loco on April 13, 2009, 05:50:41 PM
Being the  HO model is half of  O scale, If this was true to 1/4 scale think of how large it would be :o
To think my 22" radius wont support the K-class Mikado loco's .
Title: Re: On30 version of the large scale 2-6-6-2T?
Post by: az2rail on April 13, 2009, 09:23:13 PM
Using the dimensions of the FN3 version, an O scale version would be about 12 1/2" long, 2 1/4" wide, and 3 3/4" high. These are not exact sizes, but should be close enought to get an idea of size.

Bruce
Title: Re: On30 version of the large scale 2-6-6-2T?
Post by: El Loco on April 15, 2009, 07:30:45 PM
Being articulated,  That sure would be one dandy locomotive. A 22" radius might be too tight.
Title: Re: On30 version of the large scale 2-6-6-2T?
Post by: Kevin Strong on April 16, 2009, 02:33:26 AM
Quote from: El Loco on April 15, 2009, 07:30:45 PM
Being articulated,  That sure would be one dandy locomotive. A 22" radius might be too tight.
Not really. A 60-degree curve (what the Uintah locos were built for) works out to 25" in 1:48, so a 22" radius really isn't that out of character. Note also that the Uintah locos were huge compared to the B'mann 2-6-6-2. And, the way the B'mann loco is designed where both sets of drivers pivot, a 22" radius would be no problem for an On30 version. Heck, the 1:20 version reportedly fits around a 24" radius!

Later,

K
Title: Re: On30 version of the large scale 2-6-6-2T?
Post by: renniks on April 16, 2009, 07:03:57 PM
Quote from: Kevin Strong on April 16, 2009, 02:33:26 AM

. Note also that the Uintah locos were huge compared to the B'mann 2-6-6-2.
K

    Kevin,

    Have a drawing of Uintah artic. #51, which gives total length of 46' 10",10' 7"wide across side tanks and 13' 8 1/2"to top of stack; so if Bruce has figured correctly the Bach version would  in fact be slightly longer.

   Eric UK
Title: Re: On30 version of the large scale 2-6-6-2T?
Post by: Geezer on May 08, 2009, 03:09:40 PM
 ;D
If you would like to see the Backwoods On30 2-6-6-2T
in progress....check out  "Geezers Stuff" on the railroad-line
forum.
Title: Re: On30 version of the large scale 2-6-6-2T?
Post by: Geezer on May 08, 2009, 03:16:23 PM
ooops - Forgot:

"I think that the Backwoods kit does'nt look right. I say this because it is an O scale cab on a HO engine, makes everything else look small. But that's just me, AND it is a option to get a mallet. (AZ2Rail)"

What happens with the Backwoods kit is that you do extensive surgery on the HO boiler, and the boiler is raised up almost a quarter inch in the front.
All the parts for the conversion are brass, and this adds considerable weight to the unit..
New larger domes and S scale air pumps are added. The only parts I re-used were the cooling tanks on top, and the generator.
Also the new pilot assembly is quite a bit larger.

Thanks for letting me butt in....Geezer
Title: Re: On30 version of the large scale 2-6-6-2T?
Post by: az2rail on May 10, 2009, 09:33:56 AM
Well Geezer. I call it input, not butting in.

To all ~ I went to Geezer's post on the on the railroad-line forum, and he has done a nice {no, a great} job of kit bashishing himself a 2-6-6-2T. It is worth the search.

Bruce
Title: Re: Link to Geezer's On30 version of a 2-6-6-2T
Post by: railtwister on May 10, 2009, 12:24:44 PM
I agree, it's worth checking out, so here's a link:

<http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=24529>


This link is six pages long and includes some of Geezer's other stuff, too, including his 1:1 house under construction (beautiful!), all of which is worthwhile...

Regards,
Bill Nielsen
Oakland Park, FL USA
Florida On30 Renegades
Title: Re: On30 version of the large scale 2-6-6-2T?
Post by: Hamish K on May 10, 2009, 08:09:48 PM
If Bachmann were to make a mallet articulated locomotive in ON30 my choice would be the Ingenio Angelina (Dominican Republic) 2-6-6-2. Seehttp://narrowmind.railfan.net/2662_Ingenio_9.JPG (http://narrowmind.railfan.net/2662_Ingenio_9.JPG) and http://loggingmallets.railfan.net/export/ingenio9.htm (http://loggingmallets.railfan.net/export/ingenio9.htm)

This was the smallest mallet built in North America and was 30 inch gauge. I guess some would say that it "looked wrong", it does look rather like an HO model with larger stack, domes, cab and tender! As this loco shows, such conversions can be prototypical, depending on what is being modelled.

Personally I would prefer an actual export locomotive over a planned but never built loco (the LS 2-6-6-2t), but I know others differ.

Hamish
Title: Re: On30 version of the large scale 2-6-6-2T?
Post by: caddy54 on May 16, 2009, 07:07:35 AM
hi guys,have kitbashed two moguls into a mallet(bachmann 2-6-0,s)with only the rear driving.not bad,not good. just purchased a bachmann 2-6-6-2 with tsunami sound,with full intentions to convert to on30.ho loco runs well on my layout with 17 inch radius. hidden in tunnel. consider  what could be  done if you place the ho mallet against an on30 2-8-0.i have both & am intrigued with the possibilities.i run bachmann exclusively,off the shelf. the only ring in is a bl-c16 with sound. would welcome some feedback on this conversion,using spare bachmann parts like cab,domes,stacks,etc. i am scratch builder./kitbasher with 35 yrs in the hobby.regards graeme