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Title: Bachmann 4-6-2 K4 with sound
Post by: ncc1701 on July 16, 2008, 10:14:07 AM
To anyone that has experience with bachmann sound-equipped steam locos; I have a few questions for you.

I found a bachmann k4 with sound. It's the old 1920's original paint scheme. The loco is new, and is for sale by a bachmann hobbyshop dealer. I ran it on the test track but was confused by a clickity click sound made by what I believe to be the motor. Can or will this sound go away after break in?(it's been is the window case for a while) and is the the headlight pickup on the last set of drivers?

I would appreciate any help anyone can give and I thank you.
Title: Re: Bachmann 4-6-2 K4 with sound
Post by: SteamGene on July 21, 2008, 08:40:48 AM
A bit of lube and some run in should take care of the clickety sound.  You might want to check the rods for possible binding, too.
Gene
Title: Re: Bachmann 4-6-2 K4 with sound
Post by: Tim on July 21, 2008, 09:02:07 AM

NCC1701

The K4's were not sound equipped, your K4 has an aftermarket decoder
probably a Loksound decoder.

The Loksound decoders have a rail click sound among others.  It can be
turned off on the programming track.

Determine what sound decoder is in your K4, then download the manual from
their website.

A quick test to see if the sound you hear is mechanical is to turn the sound off, (F8)
on your controller.

Let us know what you find.

Tim Anders
Souderton, PA
Title: Re: Bachmann 4-6-2 K4 with sound
Post by: Pacific Northern on July 22, 2008, 05:40:24 PM
Quote from: Tim on July 21, 2008, 09:02:07 AM

NCC1701

The K4's were not sound equipped, your K4 has an aftermarket decoder
probably a Loksound decoder.

The Loksound decoders have a rail click sound among others.  It can be
turned off on the programming track.

Determine what sound decoder is in your K4, then download the manual from
their website.

A quick test to see if the sound you hear is mechanical is to turn the sound off, (F8)
on your controller.

Let us know what you find.

Tim Anders
Souderton, PA

You are not keeping up to what Bachmann is offering. The K-4's are indeed being marketed with DCC and Sound. Check the product reference section.
Title: Re: Bachmann 4-6-2 K4 with sound
Post by: Tim on July 22, 2008, 11:15:34 PM

Pacific Northern

I stand corrected, I missed the little box at the top of the page.

Tim Anders
Souderton, PA
Title: Re: Bachmann 4-6-2 K4 with sound
Post by: ncc1701 on July 24, 2008, 11:48:01 AM
     To all who have volunteered advice, I thank you. I haven't been on the web lately, but i discovered by putting the locomotive through her paces on the loop that the clicking sound slowly disapated after each driver revolution and concluded that it was part of the break-in process as it has not returned since.

     As for the headlight issue, I discovered that the led was simply very dim. I as considering replacing the headlight.

     Again, thanks.
Title: Re: Bachmann 4-6-2 K4 with sound
Post by: trainmanchris on August 02, 2008, 01:33:06 AM
has that happened to anyone else cause i'm plaing on getting a K-4 for my layout :)
Title: Re: Bachmann 4-6-2 K4 with sound
Post by: SteamGene on August 02, 2008, 03:00:02 PM
Which Bachmann K-4?  The PRR Pacific or the C&O Kanawha?
Gene
Title: Re: Bachmann 4-6-2 K4 with sound
Post by: Pacific Northern on August 02, 2008, 03:07:03 PM
Quote from: SteamGene on August 02, 2008, 03:00:02 PM
Which Bachmann K-4?  The PRR Pacific or the C&O Kanawha?
Gene

As indicated in the subject line of the header
Title: Re: Bachmann 4-6-2 K4 with sound
Post by: trainmanchris on August 02, 2008, 04:27:49 PM
PRR........DUHHHHHHHH :P
Title: Re: Bachmann 4-6-2 K4 with sound
Post by: SteamGene on August 02, 2008, 04:55:00 PM
And all was fine until trainmanchdris announced that he was going to buy a K-4 for his layout.  Not a K-4 with sound, or a 4-6-2, but a K-4.  Bachmann makes two K-4s: a PRR Pacific and a C&O Kanawha, which does not yet come with sound.  So for anybody who wants clear writing, the message was ambiguous.  So I asked. 
I would bet that at least one of you had no idea that railroads other than PRR had engines designated as "K-4."  Now you do. 
Gene
Title: Re: Bachmann 4-6-2 K4 with sound
Post by: trainmanchris on August 02, 2008, 08:53:30 PM
WTF?nothing happened.......all i said was i was buying one AND YES WITH SOUND.........if i'm gonna spend money.........i'm gonna spend it on something kool........with sound ;D


P.S:WHERE the hell is there a C&O one made by bachmann???its not IN the product setion?!?!?!  :-\

DO you mean heavy mountain?!?! cause Bachmann doesn't make other C&O's except the 2-8-4
Title: Re: Bachmann 4-6-2 K4 with sound
Post by: trainmanchris on August 02, 2008, 08:54:36 PM
plus..............why can't ANYONE spell chris right??? :(
Title: Re: Bachmann 4-6-2 K4 with sound
Post by: SteamGene on August 02, 2008, 10:04:27 PM
Maybe people will start when you spell "going to" and "cool" correctly.  Try using correct capital letters, also.  BTW, the "too" that is a synonym for "also" is spelled "too," not "to."  
Bachmann makes three C&O steam locomotives:
J-2 USRA heavy Mountain (4-8-2)
K-4 Kanawha {van Sweigerin (sp)}(2-8-4)
H-5 USRA light Mallet (2-6-6-2)
Gene
Title: Re: Bachmann 4-6-2 K4 with sound
Post by: trainmanchris on August 03, 2008, 04:58:56 AM
ok that great..............please stop teaching me how to spell...........my keyboard sucks and its not my problem so please LEAVE ME ALONE................................PLEASE!!!    all i did was say i was geting a K-4 AND NOW THIS HAPPENS..........WTH??? >:(

i though the bachmann forums were to be to talk about model trains.......not a school :-\
Title: Re: Bachmann 4-6-2 K4 with sound
Post by: Pacific Northern on August 07, 2008, 10:48:22 PM
Quote from: SteamGene on August 02, 2008, 04:55:00 PM
And all was fine until trainmanchdris announced that he was going to buy a K-4 for his layout.  Not a K-4 with sound, or a 4-6-2, but a K-4.  Bachmann makes two K-4s: a PRR Pacific and a C&O Kanawha, which does not yet come with sound.  So for anybody who wants clear writing, the message was ambiguous.  So I asked. 
I would bet that at least one of you had no idea that railroads other than PRR had engines designated as "K-4."  Now you do. 
Gene

The original post is very specific that it is a 4-6-2 K4 with sound.  Time to read the subject posting before assuming.

There was no reason to enquire any further if it was the 2-8-4.

Chris there are a few individuals here who can not seem to stop criticizing grammar or spelling mistakes. They are not in charge of this forum, but then again they certainly act as though they are.
Title: Re: Bachmann 4-6-2 K4 with sound
Post by: SteamGene on August 08, 2008, 07:07:29 PM
Pacific - You are the one who assumed, not me.  That's why I asked.  And it's not a matter of spelling or grammar in this case.  In actual fact, it is a completely railroad question.  One railroad's K class does not necessarily conform to another railroad's.  OTOH, both N&W and C&O had 4-8-4s and both in J class.  However, the N&W had only one J class while the C&O had three, with it's 4-8-4 as a J-3.  Milwaukee Road L class were Mikados while for C&O they were Hudsons.  The famous N&W A class were 2-6-6-4s while the equally famous Milwaukee Road Class As were the largest 4-4-2s ever built. 
Point is, it's never safe to use a class designation without the railroad as well.

BTW, I think you have been around here long enough to have read several notes so garbled that nobody could figure out what was needed, though you did miss the classic "worn out rails" problem of a few years ago.   
Title: Re: Bachmann 4-6-2 K4 with sound
Post by: Pacific Northern on August 08, 2008, 09:29:22 PM
Quote from: SteamGene on August 08, 2008, 07:07:29 PM
Pacific - You are the one who assumed, not me.  That's why I asked.  And it's not a matter of spelling or grammar in this case.  In actual fact, it is a completely railroad question.  One railroad's K class does not necessarily conform to another railroad's.  OTOH, both N&W and C&O had 4-8-4s and both in J class.  However, the N&W had only one J class while the C&O had three, with it's 4-8-4 as a J-3.  Milwaukee Road L class were Mikados while for C&O they were Hudsons.  The famous N&W A class were 2-6-6-4s while the equally famous Milwaukee Road Class As were the largest 4-4-2s ever built. 
Point is, it's never safe to use a class designation without the railroad as well.

BTW, I think you have been around here long enough to have read several notes so garbled that nobody could figure out what was needed, though you did miss the classic "worn out rails" problem of a few years ago.   

Note the subject line in the original post noted a 4-6-2............Too bad you missed it.