As a matter of curiosity, has anyone ever done a list of the Spectrum releases and approx. time frame?
For example, as I understand it the 2 truck Shay was their first in 199???
Personally, I have this Shay, original Climax (being sold for the later Climax), the 440 and the 280 Connie. Would love to see the list and time frames? Personally, I just love these for their detail and performance. For me it all started with my son's original Big Hauler back in the mid 90's. He grew up and lost interest, but I stayed attached. I will have to admit that when running outside from a 20 foot distance, lots of the detail of the Spectrum is lost to me, but when they roll by close it comes back.
I have that history, but will be away from my databases for a while. If I do not respond in ten days please feel free to remind me. Wade Colyer may also have it and could possibly provde it sooner.
It's not a rush so whenever you get back.
HiMickey, and all
Remember what I am showing you is for your personal use only, and for the use of members of the forum. I have copyrighted my databases, and I would vry much appreciate it if you would not retransmit it to any other forum or provide it to anyone else outside the forum.
Remember not all 1:20.3 items are Spectrum, and some feel that some spectrum items are not 1:20.3. What I have provided is what Bachmann Trains says it is.
Hopefully I did not miss any. Let me know
Sorry about the way the info is displayed moving from a database to a print copy never seems to work out neatly.
info in order is
Bach NO, Reportng marks Road no date introduced and description.
81304 Southern 762 1994 ~ Loco 2-4-2T, Lynton & Barnstable P
81198 ETL Co 5 1996 ~ Loco Shay, 2 truck, Ely Thomas P
81199 None None 1996 ~ Loco Shay, 2 truck, unlettered, early P
11396 ETL Co 1 1998 ~ Loco 0-4-0, Ely Thomas Lumber Co. P
11398 ETL Co 21 1998 ~ Loco 0-4-0, painted unlettered Black P
11397 WLC Co 11 1998 ~ Loco 0-4-0, West Side Lumber Co. P
81196 P&CL Co 11 1998 ~ Loco Shay, 2 truck, Pardee & Curtin P 1
81197 None None 1998 ~ Loco Shay, 2 truck, unlettered, modern P 1
81177 Climax 2 2000 ~ Loco Climax Demo tapered stack P 1
81184 ETL Co 7 2000 ~ Loco Climax, 2 truck, Ely Thomas diamond stack
81178 LRL Co 2 2000 ~ Loco Climax, 2 truck, Little River Logging Co. P 1
81179 MML Co 4 2000 ~ Loco Climax, 2 truck, Meadow Mt. Lumber 1
81182 MCL Co 4 2000 ~ Loco Climax, 2 truck, Michigan, California 1
81183 NRL Co 4 2000 ~ Loco Climax, 2 truck, New River Lumber P 1
81180 P&CL Co 6 2000 ~ Loco Climax, 2 truck, Pardee & Curtin P 1
81185 None None 2000 ~ Loco Climax, 2 truck, unlettered, diamond struck 1
81181 None None 2000 ~ Loco Climax, 2 truck, unlettered, tapered struck p 1
81491 KC 102 2001 ~ Loco 2-6-0, Kansas Central
81492 None None 2001 ~ Loco 2-6-0, painted unlettered black
81493 SPC 12 2001 ~ Loco 2-6-0, South Pacific Coast
81494 ET&WNC 2 2001 ~ Loco 2-6-0, ET&WNC
81495 BLW None 2000 ~ Loco 2-6-0, Baldwin Locomotive Works "Delaware"
81496 YPLCo 11 2000 ~ Loco 2-6-0, Yellow Pine Lumber Co
81497 RGS 11 2000 ~ Loco 2-6-0, Rio Grande Southern
81498 D&RG 29 2000 ~ Loco 2-6-0, Denver & Rio Grande
81499 None None 2000 ~ Loco 2-6-0, painted, unlettered Russian Iron
81295 DC 5 2001 ~ Loco 2-8-0, Deadwood Central P
81298 None None 2001 ~ Loco 2-8-0, Painted Unlettered Black P
81299 None None 2001 ~ Loco 2-8-0, Painted Unlettered Black, red & white P
81297 SN 34 2001 ~ Loco 2-8-0, Silverton Northern P
81296 WP&Y 7 2001 ~ Loco 2-8-0, White Pass & Yukon P
81294 YPL Co 21 2001 ~ Loco 2-8-0, Yellow Pine Lumber Co. P
81395 B&L 6 2001 ~ Loco 4-4-0, Baltimore & Lehigh Straight stack P 1
81396 E&P 4 2001 ~ Loco 4-4-0, Eureka & Palisade "Eureka" P 1
81394 None None 2001 ~ Loco 4-4-0, painted unlettered black Straight Stack P 1
81795 LRL Co 5 2003 ~ Loco Heisler, Little River Logging Co. P 1
81797 LS Co None 2003 ~ Loco Heisler, Lukens Steel Co. P 1
81794 OL Co 102 2003 ~ Loco Heisler, Oregon Lumber Co. P 1
81799 None None 2003 ~ Loco Heisler, painted, unlettered P 1
81798 None None 2003 ~ Loco Heisler, painted, unlettered red white trim P 1
81796 PCL Co 8 2003 ~ Loco Heisler, Pardee Curtin Lumber Co. P 1
82197 ETL Co 6 2004 ~ Loco Shay, 38 ton, Ely-Thomas Lumber Co. P L
82196 OL Co 106 2004 ~ Loco Shay, 38 ton, Oregon Lumber Co. P L
82198 None None 2004 ~ Loco Shay, 38 ton, unletter coal & oil bunker r&w P L
82199 None None 2004 ~ Loco Shay, 38 ton, unletter. coal & oil bunker black P L
82195 WMRL 7 2004 ~ Loco Shay, 38 ton, W.M.Ritter Lumber Company P L
82194 WLC Co 5 2004 ~ Loco Shay, 38 ton, West Side Lumber Co. P L
82596 CMC 1 2006 ~ Loco 0-4-0 Side Tank Porter Colorado Mining Co N
82597 MQ&M 1 2006 ~ Loco 0-4-0 Side Tank Porter, Midwest Quarry & Mining N
82598 None N/A 2006 ~ Loco 0-4-0 Side Tank Porter, Painted, Unlettered, Black N
82599 None N/A 2006 ~ Loco 0-4-0 Side Tank Porter, Painted, Unlettered, Black N
82697 LRL Co 2147 2006 ~ Loco 3 Truck Shay, Little River Lumber Co
82496 MRL Co 7 2006 ~ Loco 3 Truck Shay, Meadow River Lumber Co. N
82494 OL Co 110 2006 ~ Loco 3 Truck Shay, Oregon Lumber Co. N
82699 None None 2006 ~ Loco 3 Truck Shay, Painted Unlettered red & white trim
82499 none N/A 2006 ~ Loco 3 Truck Shay, Painted, Unlettered, Black N
82498 none N/A 2006 ~ Loco 3 Truck Shay, Painted, Unlettered, Red white trim N
82698 WSL Co 4 2006 ~ Loco 3 Truck Shay, Westside Lumber Co.
81391 None None 2007 ~ Loco 4-4-0, painted unlettered Lake (blue)& Russia Iron 1
81392 None None 2007 ~ Loco 4-4-0, painted unlettered Olive & Russia Iron 1
81393 None None 2007 ~ Loco 4-4-0, Resort at Squaw Creek, Lake Tahoe Ca Limited Edition
81394 None None 2001 ~ Loco 4-4-0, painted unlettered black Straight Stack P 1 Dia stack in 2007
81395 B&L 6 2001 ~ Loco 4-4-0, Baltimore & Lehigh Straight stack P 1
81396 E&P 4 2001 ~ Loco 4-4-0, Eureka & Palisade "Eureka" P 1 Spectrum
81397 SPC 3 2000 ~ Loco 4-4-0, South Pacific Coast P 1 $799.00
81398 D&RG 87 2000 ~ Loco 4-4-0, Denver & Rio Grande 1 "Rito Alto" $799.00 Diamond Stack
81399 None None 2000 ~ Loco 4-4-0, painted, unlettered Russia Iron P 1
83095 D&RGW 463 2007 ~ Loco K-27 2-8-2 "Flying Rio Grande" Black 1
83096 RGS 455 2007 ~ Loco K-27 2-8-2 "Rio Grande Southern" Black 1
83094 D&RGW 464 2007 ~ Loco K-27 2-8-2 "Rio Grande" Black 1
83093 D&RGW 453 2007 ~ Loco K-27 2-8-2 "Rio Grande" Black with doghouse p 1
83097 RGS 455 2007 ~ Loco K-27 2-8-2 blk w/green boiler jacket 1
83098 none NA 2007 ~ Loco K-27 2-8-2 Blk w/green boiler, unlettered 1
83099 none NA 2007 ~ Loco K-27 2-8-2 painted black, unlettered 1
82894 LRL Co 10 2009 ~ Loco Baldwin 2-6-6-2 Little River Logging Co. 1
82896 OL Co 121 2009 ~ Loco Baldwin 2-6-6-2 Oregon Lumber Co 1
82898 None None 2009 ~ Loco Baldwin 2-6-6-2 Painted Unlettered Black 1
82899 None None 2009 ~ Loco Baldwin 2-6-6-2 Painted unlettered Blk Red windo 1
82897 WVP&P 18 2009 ~ Loco Baldwin 2-6-6-2 West Virginia Paper & Pulp Co. 1
82895 YPL Co 36 2009 ~ Loco Baldwin 2-6-6-2 Yellow Pine Lumber Co. 1
80998 None None 2010 ~ Loco 1:20.3 2-4-4 Forney Painted Unlettered Black 1
80999 None None 2010 ~ Loco 1:20.3 2-4-4 Forney Painted Unlettered Black 1
80996 SR&RL 12 2010 ~ Loco 1:20.3 2-4-4 Forney Sandy River & Rangeley Lak 1
80997 SR&RL 11 2010 ~ Loco 1:20.3 2-4-4 Forney Sandy river & Rangeley Lake 1
85096 BLCo 3 2011 ~ Loco 1:20.3 Climax 2 Trk Bayside Lumber Co 1
86096 BLCo 4 2011 ~ Loco 1:20.3 Climax 2 Trk Bayside Lumber Co 1
85093 CLLCo 6 2011 ~ Loco 1:20.3 Climax 2 Trk Clear Lake Lumber Co 1
86093 CLLCo 7 2011 ~ Loco 1:20.3 Climax 2 Trk Clear Lake Lumber Co 1
85095 Climax 2 2011 ~ Loco 1:20.3 Climax 2 Trk Climax 1
86095 Climax 3 2011 ~ Loco 1:20.3 Climax 2 Trk Climax 1
85094 ERC&Lco 3 2011 ~ Loco 1:20.3 Climax 2 Trk Elk River Coal & Lumber 1
86094 ERC&Lco 4 2011 ~ Loco 1:20.3 Climax 2 Trk Elk River Coal & Lumber 1
85097 None None 2011 ~ Loco 1:20.3 Climax 2 Trk Unlettred black white strip 1
85098 None None 2011 ~ Loco 1:20.3 Climax 2 Trk Unlettred white stripe red 1
86097 None None 2011 ~ Loco 1:20.3 Climax 2 Trk Unlettred black white strip 1
86098 None None 2011 ~ Loco 1:20.3 Climax 2 Trk Unlettred white stripe red
82394 None None 2005 ~ Loco/RT 1:20.3 Rail Truck Red & Black
82396 None None 2005 ~ Loco/RT 1:20.3 Rail Truck Black
82398 None None 2005 ~ Loco/RT 1:20.3 Rail Truck Green & Black
82399 RGS 1 2005 ~ Loco/RT 1:20.3 Rail Truck Rio Grande Southern
82395 None None 2005 ~ Loco/RT 1:20.3 Rail Truck Silver & Black
82397 None None 2005 ~ Loco/RT 1:20.3 Rail Truck Yellow & Black
83194 DRGW 345 2013 ~Loco C-19 Flying Rio Grande Blk short tender
83195 DRGW 345 2013 ~Loco C-19 Bumble bee short tender
83196 DRGW 346 2013 ~Loco C-19 Royal Gorge Herald long tender
83197 RGS 40 2013 ~Loco C-19 RGS Sunrise herald long tender
83198 None None 2013 ~Loco C-19 Unlettered Black short tender
83199 None None 2013 ~Loco C-19 Unlettered Black long tender R&W trim
Enjoy and feel free to ask questions, I will do my best to answer.
Bill
edit to add C-19
edit to add 2-6-0's & 4-4-0's which did not get included.
Thanks Bill. Very interesting reading.
Yes, that certainly is a good deal of work!! Is there any idea when each was no longer include the catalog?? I am almost positive the outside 2-8-0 (Connie) is not list and no longer advertised in mags, etc.
Bill
Great list
The only items that I think are missing are the C-19s.
Stan
Thanks Stan,
Sure did miss them!!
Here they are:
83194 DRGW 345 2013 ~Loco C-19 Flying Rio Grande Blk short tender
83195 DRGW 345 2013 ~Loco C-19 Bumble bee short tender
83196 DRGW 346 2013 ~Loco C-19 Royal Gorge Herald long tender
83197 RGS 40 2013 ~Loco C-19 RGS Sunrise herald long tender
83198 None None 2013 ~Loco C-19 Unlettered Black short tender
83199 None None 2013 ~Loco C-19 Unlettered Black long tender R&W trim
Bob, I do have all the catalog info but in a reference file database which is impossible to list with the above list.
I can usually answer questions about individual locomotives so this is for you.
As for the Connie they appeared in the catalog first in 2002, but as time went on they started disappearing as follows:
81298 &81299 were in the catalog until 2007
81295, 96, & 97 until 2009
81294 was the last one to appear and made it into the 2010 catalog.
Bill
Bill, a couple of questions.
I have a Climax, my records indicate that the Bachmann Number is 81181. Further down the list you have the following listings:
85093 CLLCo 6 2011 ~ Loco 1:20.3 Climax 2 Trk Clear Lake Lumber Co 1
86093 CLLCo 7 2011 ~ Loco 1:20.3 Climax 2 Trk Clear Lake Lumber Co 1
The Clear Lake Lumber Co is the name of my railroad and my Climax and Shay are so lettered, courtesy of Stan Cedarleaf. Did Bachmann do a CLLCo Climax or is this from the pictures I posted on MLS?
If it is an 81181, is it a first or second generation?
I also have a 38 ton Shay Bachmann number 82198. Any clue at to it's generation.
I'm curious as to the potential problems that I might have to be worried about.
Thanks,
Chuck
A couple of pictures.
PS Both of these were undecorated when I bought them.
Chuck,
If you look at the database you can see the dates of introduction.
Your old version climax 81181 was introduced in 2000.
Your Shay is the 2004 model
Bachmann did do the two locos you mention factory lettered for the Clear Lake Lumber Company.
The factory lettering is different that the lettering Stan did for you.
There was a real Clear Lake Lumber Company in Western Washington State:
Deleted an infected link See Stan's link below.
I suspect this is where Bachmann came up with the name, maybe the Bach-man could confirm this.
Bill
Well thank you! Appreciated the reply.
b
http://digitalcollections.lib.washington.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/clarkkinsey/id/238 (http://digitalcollections.lib.washington.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/clarkkinsey/id/238)
Great photo of the Clear Lake Climax #6
Stan
Thanks Bill!
Yes I saw the 81181 in your table. I guess that the second generation started in 2011.
I had never heard of the CLLCo in Washington. I guess that there is a prototype for everything.
Chuck
Stan,
Thanks for the great link to the University of Washington site.
Bill
Hey Bill, I have a 440 SPC which I dont see in the list. Would it have been in the 2001 or 2006 batch?
Mickey,
Looks like I screwed :-[ up big time on the 4-4-0's and missed the SPC version and others. It was strictly my cut and paste errors when building :'( the list.
My Database shows your SPC as being introduced in the 2000 catalog, it stayed in catalog til 2002.
81397 SPC 3 2000 ~ Loco 4-4-0, South Pacific Coast original MSRP was $799.00
The only 4-4-0 in the 2006 catalog was the Eureka & Palisade.
Here is my full list, hopefully I got them this time:
81391 None None 2007 ~ Loco 4-4-0, painted unlettered Lake (blue)& Russia Iron 1 $850.00
81392 None None 2007 ~ Loco 4-4-0, painted unlettered Olive & Russia Iron 1 $850.00
81393 None None 2007 ~ Loco 4-4-0, Resort at Squaw Creek, Lake Tahoe Ca Limited Edition Limited edition for the resort
81394 None None 2001 ~ Loco 4-4-0, painted unlettered black Straight Stack P 1 Spectrum $799.00 Dia stack in 2007
81395 B&L 6 2001 ~ Loco 4-4-0, Baltimore & Lehigh Straight stack P 1 Spectrum $799.00
81396 E&P 4 2001 ~ Loco 4-4-0, Eureka & Palisade "Eureka" P 1 Spectrum $799.00 wood burner
81397 SPC 3 2000 ~ Loco 4-4-0, South Pacific Coast P 1 $799.00
81398 D&RG 87 2000 ~ Loco 4-4-0, Denver & Rio Grande 1 "Rito Alto" $799.00 Diamond Stack
81399 None None 2000 ~ Loco 4-4-0, painted, unlettered Russia Iron P 1 $799.00
Disregard the "P" and the "1" they are just triggers I use for certain sorts.
I need to review my entire database info for the 4-4-0's and double check all the catalog dates, but since my move to Colorado last year in late November, it is low on my priority list.
Corrections, additions and questions are always welcome.
Bill
Hard to imagine that old. Or I guess I'm getting old. Thanks.
THANK YOU Loco Bill- I finally have the stock number for my Spectrum 2-6-0 Mogul. It's 81492. Why did Spectrum stop making this great loco so soon?? It runs great and the detail is very good. Did they stop because of the wide radius curves it needs?
GF Greg,
It was in the catalog from 2001 to 2005. They usually hold back if the sales of an item are not strong, but that is only a guess on my part.
Many with tighter radius curves just removed the pins on the center axle to get it to track better.
Hi All,
I really did a crappy job :-[ on the above list of Spectrum items. I just saw some of the 2-6-0's were also missing :(.
I updated the post with the list to include the missing 2-6-0's and the 4-4-0's. If you saved the list in the past be sure to update your list with the current list.
I wonder what else I missed??? I really need to go back over the entire thing, but have no time right now.
If you see any more missing items, either post here or email me please. Thanks
Old tired and weary,
Loco Bill