As Christmas is Coming Closer, I am pulling out the Large scale track and once again my critical eye is wanting Passenger cars to pull behind My 1:20 Loco The big haulers are nice but they just are not right. I know lots of others want these. I know I can buy other manufactures rolling stock or kits but I hate to mix and match...
NM
I thought they looked OK with the 4-4-0 and 2-6-0, but not the larger locos. gj
they look ok long as I don't look at the door on the side of the combine thats what triggers the to small look for me, even behind the 2-6-0 I have.
Maybe thats a little picky but floating scale is really my only rivot counter trait.
NM
Dear NM,
I agree with Glenn. I use Accucraft passenger cars with my K-27.
Have fun!
the Bach-man
Dear Mr/Ms Bach-man, Let me cite myself: Now that Bachmann proved that they can build a decent car, even with some interior, I would suggest to consider one of these fine examples for the future products:
http://4largescale.com/fletch/d60c.htm
http://4largescale.com/fletch/d60.htm
I believe many modellers who bought your early Moguls and Americans would be happy to buy some of these if you produce them to the same (or better) accuracy as the D&RGW caboose.
Best wishes from Tokyo, Zubi
Unfortunately large scale is just too small a market for one manufacturer to make everything you need. Mixing and matching is a way of life.
George
Quote from: NarrowMinded on October 11, 2009, 09:26:31 PM... the door on the side of the combine thats what triggers the to small look for me, ...
Actually, some cars did have doors looking a bit small for the rest of the car.
These look that way to me:
http://www.shorpy.com/node/5868 (http://www.shorpy.com/node/5868)
:-\
Ahh, going to take awhile to find where the other photos I saved came from.
Will be back.
This one might qualify
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/acfx/cc-cb5asw.jpg (http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/acfx/cc-cb5asw.jpg)
This one?
http://www.buffalocreekandgauley.com/ROLLINGSTOCK/Passenger/13UnknownOPT.jpg (http://www.buffalocreekandgauley.com/ROLLINGSTOCK/Passenger/13UnknownOPT.jpg)
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/erie_combine0.jpg (http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/erie_combine0.jpg)
Full length standard gauge car, but it kind of illustrates the same idea
http://www.buffalocreekandgauley.com/ROLLINGSTOCK/MOW/Combine-DiningCarOPT_rot_90.jpg (http://www.buffalocreekandgauley.com/ROLLINGSTOCK/MOW/Combine-DiningCarOPT_rot_90.jpg)
http://www.raritanriver-rr.com/PassengerCars/CombineNo22_1932.jpg (http://www.raritanriver-rr.com/PassengerCars/CombineNo22_1932.jpg)
on30gn15,
Thanks for those link's they have given me the inspiration to modify my combines to eliminate the part that bugs me and throws the scale off for me, the short side door, of the three links I clicked all of them had a side door that extended above the top window line and into the fascia that the road name is painted on. the bachmann combine doors are at the same top level as the windows and do not extend into the fascia, but my saw will soon remedy that.
Thanks again
NM
Alas, the 1:22.5 passenger equipment can't really be made to be accurate for 1:20.3 without major surgery. They're just too short.
(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/eastbroadtop/combine18/passengercompare2.jpg)
The door on the 1:20.3 combine is just under 6' tall, which was the norm for narrow gauge passenger equipment. I'd suggest a ready supply of aspirin for your passengers as they will undoubtedly be hitting their heads on the door and roof of the smaller 1:22 equipment.
(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/eastbroadtop/combine18/passengercompare1.jpg)
From the side, the difference in length is especially evident.
There's nothing wrong with mixing AMS's equipment with Bachmann. They're built to be very compatible. The couplers even work well together, which is not something that can be said terribly often.
Later,
K
I find it hard to believe that Bachmann got into the 1:20.3 market with locomotives and freight cars but they are NOT going to sell passenger cars. If you are going to suggest using a different vendor for passenger cars, then why bother making the freight cars when yo can get them form other vendors also. The same hold true for what locomotives Bachmann offers.( i.e. Bachmann will not make X loco becuase another vendor is prooducing somthing like it-for a lot more money)
People buy from Bachmann for a reason, for me its good quality at a reasonable price with great service and warranty. I'm sure Bachmann could produce 1:20.3 cars that are just as nice and cost a lot less than what the other guys are selling. Doing so, would further increase interest in the 1:20.3 market, IMHO. I am in deep with 1:22.5 equipment, and now with LGB gone and no new Big Hauler locomotive offerings I have to decide what direction I want to go in, if I want to stay in large scale narrow gauge. I would love to stay where I am if Bachmann would offer some other Big Hauler locos. But can't afford to move up to 1:20.3 if the passenger cars are going to be so expensive.
Sorry for the short rant-
Kevin,
thanks for posting the photos I have never seen the scales side by side like that, WOW what a difference.
CaseyJones,
I understand the rant, I feel the same, I would love to have some affordable matching (Bachmann) cars, to me it would help carry on the tradition of handing down trains, I would love to have a complete "BACHMANN" 1:20.3 set instead of a mix matched box full off "this and that's" I also think it would go along way to help keep bachmann on the minds of the next generation. My dad use to say he was "born a Ford boy and would die a Ford man", I like bachmann products much more then others, wouldn't it be nice if I could say I was born a "Bachmann boy and will die a bachmann man" Product loyalty is a key to longevity in any business, but that's hard to do when you have to buy other products to get the consist you like.
NM
Dear All,
I'd love it too, but I'm just telling you the reality of the situation.
Have fun!
the Bach-man
I don't believe that Bachmann has ever said they will never make 1:20.3 Passenger Cars, but just not now. As the Bach-man always says, anticipate!
To all & Mr. Bach-man,
Don't get me wrong here, I'm not mad, angry or upset, and I would never Kill the messenger Mr Bach-Man, I just know the power of the pen, Err Keyboard, if nobody ever expressed a wish hope or dream there wouldn't be as much cool stuff as there is for me to Drool over. I'm only in my mid 40's I think a have time to wait and see what will come, I will modify my passenger cars for now, But who knows what the next years will bring. Maybe I'll get my wish, maybe I wont, but if I don't make a wish it can never come true.
NM
Now wheres my passenger cars? ;D
"Dear All,
I'd love it too, but I'm just telling you the reality of the situation.
Have fun!
the Bach-man"
Ok ...sigh.
Thanks for listening
the way i look at is bachmann could go 3 ways
dont bother and miss out,,,,,,,,
make a prototypical example,,,,,,,latest caboose proves you can do it,,
or make up a generic model of the correct scale, with various style sides and window types and roofs fully interchangeable,,,,,,, like the accucraft sides
maby even in kit form,with decent seats and bogies,,, many people love kitbashing and creating something individual
i realise the big seller ie drgw accucraft js has taken a lot of the market but surely there is something out there which can be made
surely there is enough opinions on here to find away forward,,
ho hum
I think bachmann would sell a couple boat loads of these right off. but who knows what the health of bachmann is maybe to big a gamble with this economy right now, I would tell you though I would dump the big hauler caboose and by their new 1:20.3 to run behind the 1:20.3 Passenger cars, and based on the number of views of this topic in a short period of time people are interested for sure.
NM
Here's a idea, if you read this please reply "yes" or "no" wether you would buy Bachmann 1:20.3 Passenger Cars
Yes, I would buy two consists (Baggage or Combine, Coach, Coach, Observation.) I would also buy, in addition, an RPO and a Business car.
8) While we are on the subject, it would be nice to add the rio grande "SILVER VISTA". If it's done right i'm sure it would sell like hot cakes! You hit the mark on the caboose ,try it again as you would be the first to mass produce a needed model that's in reach of joe public's pocket. Hope to see a car sporting steel and glass roof down the rails some day soon. Bruce
yep put me down for an initial rake of 5,,,,
combines rpo and whatever else
i think most people who have connies would buy a few
a decent semi prototypical range of coaches would have sold way more than the new caboose
its just baffling
YES
I would take some
Rodney