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Title: Is it possible to run 2 train operation in HO on 4x4 layout?
Post by: Loud1952 on August 17, 2020, 09:36:54 AM
I'm planning on a small 4x4 HO layout.  I know that this is the smallest space in which I can put an HO layout and was wondering if I can do 2 train operation if I use a couple of short sidings with short trains.  I'd like to run the trains separately, using the sidings to hold one train while the other one runs.  I know that I'll have to use short stock.  Can anyone tell me if it's possible and if so where I can find detailed instructions to wire it correctly?
Thanks much!
Title: Re: Is it possible to run 2 train operation in HO on 4x4 layout?
Post by: WoundedBear on August 17, 2020, 10:00:21 AM
What you want to do is easily accomplished in both DC or DCC. Have you chosen your power system yet?

Sid
Title: Re: Is it possible to run 2 train operation in HO on 4x4 layout?
Post by: Loud1952 on August 17, 2020, 10:18:11 AM
No.  I'm completely ignorant about it!
Title: Re: Is it possible to run 2 train operation in HO on 4x4 layout?
Post by: Trainman203 on August 17, 2020, 11:08:21 AM
The other thing you need to learn is that your biggest curve radius will probably be 15", and you'll have to use all curved switches.  Try to find the March 1963 issue of Railroad Model Craftsman.  There was a 4'x4' HO layout called the Grey Burro Lines, almost exactly what you want to do.

And use DCC if you can.  Much better and simpler multiple engine control on something that size.
Title: Re: Is it possible to run 2 train operation in HO on 4x4 layout?
Post by: rich1998 on August 17, 2020, 11:26:16 AM
You will need short locos and rolling stock, freight cars, passenger cars. Nothing long. The 44 ton loco might be good. I have two or the 70 ton. Small 0-6-0- switcher's with no tender might be ok.

Rich
Title: Re: Is it possible to run 2 train operation in HO on 4x4 layout?
Post by: Trainman203 on August 17, 2020, 11:45:40 AM
I would think that any steam engine with a leading or trailing truck would not work well.  0-6-0, 0-4-0 or small diesel is it.

I wish there was something on line about the Grey Burro Line.  It was a wonderfully detailed little layout.
Title: Re: Is it possible to run 2 train operation in HO on 4x4 layout?
Post by: Loud1952 on August 17, 2020, 12:46:12 PM
Thanks to all!  I have a lot to think about!
Title: Re: Is it possible to run 2 train operation in HO on 4x4 layout?
Post by: rich1998 on August 17, 2020, 02:14:03 PM
DC locos and a DC controller not expensive.
DCC locos and controller a little more expensive, depending on source and there is a leaning curve.  Lots of info on the Internet and here on the Bachmann site.

Rich
Title: Re: Is it possible to run 2 train operation in HO on 4x4 layout?
Post by: Len on August 17, 2020, 03:02:45 PM
There are some ideas for 4' x 4' HO layouts towards the bottom of this page:
http://www.cke1st.com/m_train2.htm#HOscale

There are also some ideas for layouts on a 3' x 6-1/2' door.

Len
Title: Re: Is it possible to run 2 train operation in HO on 4x4 layout?
Post by: Loud1952 on August 17, 2020, 04:38:14 PM
Thanks again!
Title: Re: Is it possible to run 2 train operation in HO on 4x4 layout?
Post by: Piyer on August 17, 2020, 06:34:59 PM
Plan #283 on this page is the Grey Burro Line -- lots of other plans too.

https://www.trainplayer.com/Site3/FeaturePages/baustert_gallery.html
Title: Re: Is it possible to run 2 train operation in HO on 4x4 layout?
Post by: jward on August 19, 2020, 06:06:49 PM
It is not only possible to do what you want, it is possible to do it in that space with 18r curves. I'd advise staying away from the 15r curves.

My layout, sadly in storage now due to my wife's health condition, was 48" x 54" which is only slightly larger than the space you're considering. In that space i was able to get a twice around, over and under loop with a couple of sidings along the way. A 24"x 72" extension provided me with space for a small yard with a turntable on the lower level, and a small town with plenty of sidings on the upper. Wiring was straightforward block control as described in any of the Atlas Model Railroad plan books.