I don't really need one of these 4-6-0s but I would be tempted to get one if it came with an appropriate tender.

But if the deal is I have to buy the loco and then go buy a different tender then the deal is off. 

Mark

Interestingly, in the steam era many if not most railroads did not operate headlights in daylight hours.

I agree that the USRA medium tender looks out of place with the 4-6-0. While it is possible that some of these late in life received a "bumped" USRA tender, for most of their lives they would have been mated to someting smaller.

Even this (DCC ready) tender from Bachmann would be much better:



Come on Bach-man!

Mark

From the Model Railroader site:

http://www.trains.com/mrr/default.aspx?c=a&id=4057

N scale

Baldwin 4-6-0 steam locomotive. Chicago & North Western, New York Central, Southern Ry. (green with gold stripes), and Union Pacific. Also available painted black but unlettered (with or without red windows and white stripes). Dual-mode Digital Command Control decoder and E-Z Mate Mark II magnetic knuckle couplers. $150. November 2010. Ready-to-run. Bachmann, 215-533-1600, www.bachmanntrains.com

Electro-Motive Division GP7 locomotive. Baltimore & Ohio, Chessie System, Clinchfield (gray and yellow, with dynamic brakes), New York Central, Pennsylvania RR, and Union Pacific (with dynamic brakes). Dual-mode Digital Command Control for speed, direction, and lightning, National Model Railroad Association-compliant decoder, and E-Z Mate Mark II magnetic knuckle couplers. $99. November 2010. Ready-to-run. Bachmann, 215-533-1600, www.bachmanntrains.com

General Electric 70-ton diesel locomotive. Bethlehem Steel, Louisville & Nashville, and Southern Pacific. Also available unlettered (painted in black, red, green, and yellow and black). Dual-mode Digital Command Control decoder and E-Z Mate Mark II magnetic knuckle couplers. $115. October 2010. Ready-to-run. Spectrum series. Bachmann, 215-533-1600, www.bachmanntrains.com

Hope this is ok to post Mr Bach Man!

Mark

Quote from: dtpowell on June 25, 2010, 11:51:44 AM
Nice picture Mr. Leonard. Now all we need is a coupler on the J and for Bachmann to manufacture the N&W "A".   
I'll settle for the "A".  Aw...Just wishful thinking here.

Hehe! 5 years ago I thought BLI/PCM would be doing the A, but you know how that story went ... 

If someone does the N&W A well in N scale I think it'll be a hit as it was/is in HO for BLI.

Mark

Excellent!

Quote from: David Leonard on June 16, 2010, 04:08:59 PM
The 611 ran doubleheaded on excursions occasionally. The J's did not run very often with aux tenders in steam days, so I imagine excursions are what sp4449lover is aiming for.

Good point about the excursion trains, though I can't remember the J not leading the trains in excursion service.

In steam era passenger service, they were never double-headed to my knowledge, nor did they use auxillary tenders.

The only use of auxillary tenders behind Js in the steam era was when N&W was using the Js in Freight service after the decision was made to use diesels on passenger service after summer 1958.

Mark

Can't imagine why you'd want to doublehead a J, I've never heard of them being doubleheaded (K2s were occasionally though).

Mark

Quote from: J3a-614 on May 17, 2010, 10:34:26 PM

As noted earlier, this locomotive turned out to run very well, and one was borrowed by the Norfolk & Western for some tests on that road.  Supposedly, this engine "ran rings around" the N&W's own early Y class 2-8-8-2s. 

I believe the proper quote is "ran circles"

This was against the primitive Y-1 class of 1910.

Quote from: J3a-614 on May 17, 2010, 10:34:26 PM

The N&W promptly ordered copies for themselves, with some detail changes they preferred, among them a different cab design and long-frame Baker valve gear.  These engines would be classed as Z1 and a number of subclasses. 

N&W had over 170 Z1 built in the mid to late teens. Many were later rebuilt into class Z1b, with the front slide valves being replaced by piston valves (among other things).

Quote from: J3a-614 on May 17, 2010, 10:34:26 PM

Although not shown here, two of the N&W 2-6-6-2s would later be sold to the Denver & Rio Grande Western in WW II.

A fair number of the N&W Zs were also sold to other roads (I don't have my library with me at the moment).

I should have waited for Bachmann to release the H4 for my Z1b project - I bought the USRA 2-6-6-2 for it when they came out. Perhaps I should look into getting a H4 boiler shell for this project since as you say, the dimensions are closer to the N&W Z class.

Cheers,

Mark

I have a bunch of these - these are really excellent models.

So thank you Bachmann for producing these along with your Excellent Class J loco!

Hopefully someday we'll get some N scale Y6bs and As to put in front of these beauties! (for now I run one behind my Rivarossi Y6b).

Mark

Quote from: dtpowell on April 11, 2010, 10:58:07 AM
You've got your wish folks... ConCor makes a 2-10-2. I know it's produced in
PRR (several versions), C&O, and N&W. Maybe more.

This despite the fact that N&W never rostered a 2-10-2.

Mark

Quote from: 2-8-8-0 on April 10, 2010, 11:51:35 AM
Yes, the LifeLike one is right for the ex PM locos, and I think the NKP ones as well. But, the HO Bachmann one is right for C&O.

The Lifelike HO Berk was done correctly for both C&O and Virginian. They even tooled up a correct VGN tender for it.

For us N scalers, Walthers decided that one size fits all is good enuff.

Mark

Bachmann - if you ever re-release the USRA Heavy Mountain (4-8-2) again, please include the correct tender for the "as built" locomotive.

Two roads received USRA Heavy Moutains under USRA - N&W and C&O. Both were delivered with USRA medium tenders. I have builders photos if you need them.

I wanted to buy the N&W Heavy Mountain, but if I'm gonna shell out that kind of coin for a loco it's gotta have the correct tender ...

Your USRA Light Mountain has essentially the correct tender for the Heavy Mountain - it even has the right trucks!


The only USRA locos that were built with USRA long tenders were the following:

USRA 2-10-2
USRA 2-6-6-2
USRA 2-8-8-2

Mark

I'd like to see a new K4 in scale too.

But, ya know the Broadway Limited Kato did was from 1949, well past the point where you'd see steam on it.

Hey Bach Man!

I hear Ma & Pa are hoping for it.

Mark