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Title: i might be dumb...
Post by: Summertrainz on September 01, 2007, 01:32:51 AM
but how do the trains run even if the track is not finished?
should'nt be a complete circuit in order to run?
or am i missing something
probbably am because they do... ???
does it have something to do with the ac and dc electrics?
Title: Re: i might be dumb...
Post by: Hunt on September 01, 2007, 02:28:54 AM
You are missing the fact that an electric circuit is completed by the electrical components in the locomotive, no matter if it is a motor needing AC or DC power.
Title: Re: i might be dumb...
Post by: r.cprmier on September 01, 2007, 06:58:56 AM
Hunt an Summertrainz;

I have said it before, and I will so again.  One of the best tools for anyone engaged in this hobby within these parameters is going to be a book on how electricity works.  It does not have to go into anything other than possibly Ohm's law and the basic concepts, but at least one would have a working knowledge of the nature of it.

Based upon some of the questions/statements presented on this and other forums, a handbook would save a lot of extra work, misconceptions, etc; and possibly even some damaged componets due to "light shows" created by inadequate knowledge as applied to "hands on".

Rich
Title: Re: i might be dumb...
Post by: GlennW on September 01, 2007, 09:53:54 PM
No, you're not dumb. You're just a beginner.

Summertrainz, what you need is a good primer for your scale. I miss the books Bachmann, concor & Life Like used to give away with their trainsets.
You may need a subscription for Model Railroading or Railroad Model Craftsman. Both publishers have some good books you will find useful.
Title: Re: i might be dumb...
Post by: Hunt on September 02, 2007, 02:13:45 AM
Summertrainz,
I agree with Rich’s point, you and many others should take the time to research how electricity works and apply what you learn to model railroading.

Folks realize… not knowing Summertrainz’s education level; I kept my reply basic, possibly too simplistic.  But there are other sources to explain free electrons, electrical conductor, electrical circuit, motor load in an electric circuit, how an electric motor works, direct current (DC), alternating current (AC), transformer, model railroad power pack, etc, etc, etc.

If anyone thinks a more in-depth answer is required here to Summertrainz’s post … give it.

P.S. Summertrainz
I suggest when you are trying to gain knowledge, never use the phase, "I might be dumb."
Title: Re: i might be dumb...
Post by: Jim Banner on September 02, 2007, 07:43:00 PM
Quote from: Hunt on September 02, 2007, 02:13:45 AM
P.S. Summertrainz
I suggest when you are trying to gain knowledge, never use the phase, "I might be dumb."

The only dumb questions are the ones not asked.
Title: Re: i might be dumb...
Post by: SteamGene on September 02, 2007, 07:53:41 PM
Hey Jim - I have to differ.
"I'll answer any questions about Marc Antony's 'Oh pardon me' speech."
"Can I go to the bathroom?"

Gene
Title: Re: i might be dumb...
Post by: kevin2083 on September 02, 2007, 10:17:57 PM
Quote from: SteamGene on September 02, 2007, 07:53:41 PM
Hey Jim - I have to differ.
"I'll answer any questions about Marc Antony's 'Oh pardon me' speech."
"Can I go to the bathroom?"

Gene

Yes, you can go.
Title: Re: i might be dumb...
Post by: duker1 on September 02, 2007, 10:30:03 PM
He does not know what he does not know!

Go to atlasrr.com and click on the Beginners tab for basic info. Right next to that is the Layouts tab. That will have a dropdown and click on Wiring. That will give you a primer to help get you started. They also have their current (yep) wiring books that you can order or pickup at LHS or online.
Also go to NMRA.org and scroll down to section on their 'Introduction to Model Railroading'. Again basics are taught.
Currentsolutions.com has a glossary in their Knowledge base tab that may be helpful.
Google/Yahoo search model railroad wiring and learn from that.

Duke....
Title: Re: i might be dumb...
Post by: Summertrainz on September 03, 2007, 01:07:06 AM
at the age of 2 it is uncommon to have a large attention span to do research
but i have done much research on how electricity works and the workings of ac dc and dcc
and their historys
i just like to ask the pro's first= who roam freely among this message board
;D
i looked it up and i know now
:P
Title: Re: i might be dumb...
Post by: Summertrainz on September 03, 2007, 01:07:33 AM
 :D
age of 12!
lol
that would be weird
Title: Re: i might be dumb...
Post by: Guilford Guy on September 03, 2007, 01:27:34 AM
I dunno, I'm 14. You need a better research attention span when you enter 8th grade. Oh boy, High School starts Thursday. Spelling and grammar may help as well.  ;)
Title: Re: i might be dumb...
Post by: SteamGene on September 03, 2007, 09:24:48 AM
My answer would be "I have no idea if you can or not.  But you may not now."
GG, good luck with starting high school!  It is a whole new world!
Gene
Title: Re: i might be dumb...
Post by: duker1 on September 03, 2007, 11:07:49 AM
Yeah!  SteamedGene Could be your English teacher.

He's too broke to pay attention.

Duke....
Title: Re: i might be dumb...
Post by: Hoople on September 03, 2007, 01:30:45 PM
Summertrainz, I was 12 2.5 weeks ago.(Yes I am 13 now. WOO!) If I can figure all this stuff out, you can too.
Title: Re: i might be dumb...
Post by: SteamGene on September 03, 2007, 02:32:56 PM
Duke,
I'm retired!  I didn't even do any long term last year - the first year in a long time, I must admit.  The school I normally work in hired a new language arts teacher at the last minute so tomorrow I can be working on track between Hannahville and Leesboro instead of getting eighth graders back into the grove.
Gene
Title: Re: i might be dumb...
Post by: r.cprmier on September 03, 2007, 04:31:04 PM
Gene;
I think you might have meant "groove", yes?  (please don't say no...)
Rich
Title: Re: i might be dumb...
Post by: SteamGene on September 03, 2007, 05:32:25 PM
Depends.  After all, "academy" comes from a Greek word meaning "grove."  :D  As you may know, either Socrates or Aristotle taught while sitting under trees. 
Gene