Well, there was a lot of 30"inch" dual gauge trackage in Europe, remembering that 30" was one of the more common narrow gauge "gauges" in the world as opposed to 3'.

First, one must remember in the 1800s no two European nation states agreed on a standard "inch/zoll" so 30" could be anywhere from 700-785mm

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoll_(Einheit)#Alte_Definitionen)

Now, for photos or examples I can find online, here is a photo of the Czech 30"/750mm JHMD line:



This did have drawbacks however.....

http://www.jhmd.cz/story029e.htm

I have other examples of this in Germany and in Austria, in print, cannot find anything on the net tho.

As pointed out, the trackage is available for the H0e/H0 market via Tillig. 

And yes, there are plenty of us that model it. 

Garrett

Moderator of the Yahoo-H0e group.

Quote from: Woody Elmore on June 20, 2007, 10:06:08 AM
In my last posting about HO passenger cars, the company I was referring to was La Belle. They have made some really nice passenger equipment over the years and the new owners are upgrading the kits. Main Line also makes nice kits but I really don't think they have any passenger cars.

LaBelle cars build into very nice models with a little effort.  A friend and I have even worked on them while "on the road" for work.  Minimal tools, just the sense of working with wood.

My father has some on his layout pushing 40+ years in age!

The track is in and is in good condition, but with the industrial base gone (around some around JC and North American Rayon gone in Elizabethton)and a few other issues, there are no customers on the line, so that is why it is for sale.  No longer economically viable for service.

In the article I read, an excursion line is a possibility, but this has to go past the economic development folks and the city would have to get the money.  This would also have to weigh industry and the economics of converting it to a trail (read: grants).

The LGB steam rack locos are neat.  I had one I just sold.  The protoype was built in Switzerland by SLM, and SLM rack locos ended up all over the world, so I do no think you would need to "Merican" ize it.

It appears that Johnson City, TN may be bying some of the ROW from the current owner, at least that was in the JC paper when I was up there this week.  Google turned this up:

http://www.tricities.com/tristate/tri/news.apx.-content-articles-TRI-2007-07-10-0028.html

There was a LOT of NG in the east at one time.  Not many know but many of the lines in Ohio were 3' when built and re-gauged later in life.  For example, the line past the former family farm that is now Ohio Central was 3' at one time in the 1800s, ditto on a lot of others.  Even here in the South, there were parts of the NC&StL that were 3'....

The OR&W and the other PRR line, W&W, both scream to be modeled, a few do, but not to the volume that one would think.  Why? The problem is, after the depression/WWII what was extant (visited, published and photographed).....Colorado and the EBT to a lesser amount.

Quote from: Dusten on May 11, 2007, 07:09:12 PM
Like I said, I am only 15, and I still have a lot to learn about all the workings on the steam engine. I did not know what you ment on draft, I thought you ment the heat draft which way the heat went; yes I am using a fan for my loco, the 2 are located in the tender. And yes it is mechanical, also I do not know what a wooten  design is, you'll have to show me; speaking of showing I have no pictures to present because I do not own one of those cameras that can put pictures on the web.

Here is the wooten design, larger grate area, sounds like what you are doing (not the camelback part tho).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelback_type_locomotive#The_Wootten_Firebox

Good luck, and you might want to find another live steam person in your area for some assistance.

I have an On30 Porter here, along with the Fn3 "large scale" B-S-I (yup, I am a bit of a narrow gauge steam fan).

Honestly, they are a small industrial loco and the passenger cars (which I do not have) may be a bit large for it?

It does look cute with some Grandt Gilpin Tram cars tho!

No brick, but that does bring up another question as far as insulation.  A late uncle had a 3/4" scale 4-4-0 model chock full of asbestos .

With your work on your internally fired boiler design, I am surprised you are not following on what I am asking how you are drafting it.  So, I am assuming you will have to use a fan (mechanical) or the like, a steam draft would be too small for a loco with that small of a diameter boiler when firing prior to operation when the exhaust can take over? 

Honestly, I am amazed you are taking the coal route, a lot of work tough to get right and get it to fire, not like butane or meths (which I prefer).  As far as the firebox, it sounds like it will look like a Wooten design when done. 

Please, post photos!

Quote from: Dusten on May 11, 2007, 10:51:22 AM
The plubming fictures are brass, the loco was fired under charcoal soaked in some lighter fluied and I put a serenge full of water in the boiler and then screwed the brass cab on. I sweat welded the backhead on and the smoke box, also it had copper tubes in for the smoke flues. It got hot enough to boil the water into steam but sadly I have not got the injector built and I don't have the micro chips for the rest of the functions, as well I have not built the pistons or the throttle and reverser. Then BOOM!
By the way most of the drawings are secret as well as how and what iI am using, I told you just abou 1% of what is being built. This is pretty advance for a 15 year old.

So it has an internal fire box and flues, in On30, fired with charcoal?  How are you drafting it?  Mechanical or steam?

I had my first live steam models around the age of ten many years ago.... 

Quote from: Dusten on May 08, 2007, 09:09:03 PM
LOL. I melted the back head on by sweating it together, also the engine was leaking and whell the thing blew the back head off becaues I have not got the parts right now to put the injector in. I have got the drawings.

NEVER first test a boiler under steam, pressurize it with water (no spectacular failures) and then maybe compressed air.  I assume you are using a hard (silver) solder, regular plumbing stuff will melt if hit by flame even from alcohol, nevermind gas or coal.  I have found that MAPP gas is the best for this, just used some for the superheater on a pot boiler loco here.

Having onwed and been around small scale live steamers, I am really interested in this miniature coal fired loco. 

Where do you stand on the chassis?  Got one running under compressed air?  Photos?

Quote from: the Bach-man on May 09, 2007, 12:06:53 PM
Dear All,
The pulpwood cars will arrive early in the summer.
Someday, maybe, I'll get to be the first to announce something...
; )
Have fun!
the Bach-man

Are these an all new car or using the existing flat cars?

Thanks!

Quote from: David(UK) on May 05, 2007, 05:22:32 PM
Well, this has come up on on the on- catalogue of our biggest UK supplier of 0n30........
NEW PULP WOOD CARS
26857 PULPWOOD CAR GREENBRIER AND BIG RUN. £T.B.A. £T.B.A.
26863 PULPWOOD CAR LITTLE RIVER LOGGING COMPANY. £T.B.A. £T.B.A.
26877 PULPWOOD CAR SANDY RIVER. £T.B.A. £T.B.A.
26878 PULPWOOD CAR CAROLINA PULPWOOD £T.B.A. £T.B.A.
26899 PULPWOOD CAR PAINTED UNLETTERED. £T.B.A. £T.B.A.

So how come we missed it on here, or whose ear are Tower Models bending??

Well, Bachmann UK, Bachmann Europe and Bachmann China do not list them on their website either, but sometimes dealers get early release information.  There is an infamous one in Germany that used to release HO information well before anyone else.

Quote from: scottychaos on April 30, 2007, 08:24:55 AM

Quote from: Spule 4 on April 29, 2007, 08:32:44 PM

Quote from: scottychaos on April 29, 2007, 08:13:05 PM
yes, #10 had Walschaerts , but #9 did not..
and #9 is the prototype for the bachmann engine, not #10.

the model is correct, the first poster is incorrect.

Scot

Scot:

Thanks for the info on #9.  It also negates the info I saw (forget where, possibly on the net) that the engines were catalogue designs.

you're welcome!
but no, it doesnt negate the info that the engines are catalog designs!

its a bit confusing, but here is the story as I understand it.

Bachmann's official stance is that the Bachmann forneys are based on Baldwin catalog designs, not specific prototypes that exist or once existed.
this is fine, and quite plausable.....and when it comes to this thread, concerning the valve gear..even if they ARE catalog engines, the "catalog design" they were based on would have had stephensons valve gear..so..the models are still correct even with the catalog design theory.

Scot

I had noticed some issues such as the SR&RL lighting, but had not paid attention to the tender tanks.  The other issue was the numbers selected for the SR&RL locos, but I understand if they picked 8 and 9 that there could be cries to that also.

A fine mix then I guess.

And yes, as EBTnut points out, the "options" out there are amazing, not just in size but every option you could dream of, including building to other's designs.  Case in point are the well tank Porter locos that went to Canada, looking all the world like they were built by O&K or KrLi in Europe.

Honestly, I am surprised the original poster has not chimed back in to state what his thoughts were on the prototype?

Quote from: scottychaos on April 29, 2007, 08:13:05 PM
yes, #10 had Walschaerts , but #9 did not..
and #9 is the prototype for the bachmann engine, not #10.

the model is correct, the first poster is incorrect.

Scot

Scot:

Thanks for the info on #9.  It also negates the info I saw (forget where, possibly on the net) that the engines were catalogue designs.