Quote from: Orsonroy on August 08, 2007, 12:33:05 PM

Quote from: paulsafety on August 07, 2007, 04:28:00 PM

While I can't comment on whether there will be multiple numbers for each paint scheme, I took a look at several web sites to research whether there is evidence that the cars ran in pairs.

http://www.btco.net/Vehicles/Witt/ provides a wealth of detail on Baltimore Peter Witt cars and their route assignments, and has some clear photos of the cars that do not show any couplers on the front end (exception being the two 1924 cars which had a different body and door configuration).

In addition to the Peter Witt at Baltimore Streetcar Musuem, another survivor (6144) is at Seashore Trolley Museum:
http://www.trolleymuseum.org/collection/national/6144.html

Hope this helps a little. 

Paul F.

Not only pairs, but triples. I just talked to my dad (a huge traction fan and longtime CERA member) and he distinctly remembers the CSL Witts in doubles and triples, especially during the evening rush in downtown Chicago. All of the cars were equipped with MU capabilities and two poles, so the cars could run in either direction with a single carman (the cars on the ends were facing different directions).

I'll be getting at least two of these cars. Onc in CSL for my dad to play with when he's visiting, and one to kitbash into an ITC 100-series car (until I can find a 280-series Suydam car!)

Orsonroy,

I'm sorry that I wasn't clear -- I meant to say that I was referring specifically to the Baltimore peter witt cars in response to FallsvalleyRR's questions.  I appreciate your comments about Chicago's operations -- I don't know much about CSL.

Thanks for sharing your insights!

Paul F.

Quote from: tac on August 08, 2007, 03:18:59 AM
Dear Bach-Man - a few of us over on THIS side would like to see the Portland MAX.....

Just a thort.

Best wishes

tac
www.ovgrs.org

If you want to see the Portland MAX being towed by a tow truck, Click Here....http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?66801

Neat modern LRVs, Tac!  Maybe you could also let IHP know (they already make a "low floor" LRV model similar to the low floor cars operated by MAX:
http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?51339 (Prototype)
http://ihphobby.tripod.com/hopages/hohblr.html (Model)

The model even has the little compartment over the center truck, but lacks the second set of doors.

Paul F.

Quote from: FallsvalleyRR on August 07, 2007, 02:29:37 PM
I ordered the Baltimore version sight unseen this week.

I visited the Baltimore Trolley Museum's website and they had some Witt Imagery.

I have questions:

1- Are there only one road number availible for each road?

2- Are these cars run in solo only? or pairs?

I am happy to look forward to this new item, thanks Bachmann!

While I can't comment on whether there will be multiple numbers for each paint scheme, I took a look at several web sites to research whether there is evidence that the cars ran in pairs.

http://www.btco.net/Vehicles/Witt/ provides a wealth of detail on Baltimore Peter Witt cars and their route assignments, and has some clear photos of the cars that do not show any couplers on the front end (exception being the two 1924 cars which had a different body and door configuration).

In addition to the Peter Witt at Baltimore Streetcar Musuem, another survivor (6144) is at Seashore Trolley Museum:
http://www.trolleymuseum.org/collection/national/6144.html

Hope this helps a little. 

Paul F.

Another source of information can be found at http://www.eastpenn.org/.  They offer modular club standards for traction layouts, including tips and advice on constructing overhead wire, street trackage, etc.

Paul F.

That is one great looking streetcar (looks most like the Baltimore version to me ).  I can't wait to see the decorated versions, or a front end shot (all we've seen are side views  )

Thanks for the picture link, Dr. EMD!

Paul F.

Quote from: Jonathan MacCormack on August 03, 2007, 04:09:32 PM
Lanny,

Drop a dime on the Chamber of Commerce or Historical Society in Des Moines.

Jonathan

Another option that sometimes produces results is to look at publishers of history books to see if they have a searchable web catalog....
http://www.arcadiapublishing.com is one that enables searches by keyword (i.e. trolley) or by state, etc.

A search by state got me to a book on Staunton Virginia's history.  I don't know if it mentions Shenandoah Traction Company, but for 20 bucks, it might be worth an investment to learn more about the area.

Here's a link to their "advanced search page"  http://www.arcadiapublishing.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=SRCHM&Store_Code=arcadia

Paul F.

Lanny,

Here is a site that has a lot of history about Iowa traction companies, past and present:
http://world.nycsubway.org/us/iowa/

Here is a link to a photo archive of many traction lines that operated in Iowa:
http://davesrailpix.com/odds/ia/ia.htm

Here is a link to a photo archive of the Des Moines Railway:
http://davesrailpix.com/odds/ia/ia.htm#dmr

Here is a link to a Des Moines Railway car that looks like a peter witt:
http://davesrailpix.com/odds/ia/htm/dmr30.htm

Hope this helps, and I hope you feel confident enough to purchase a Peter Witt anyway!

Paul F.

On the General Discussion board, the Bach-Man said:

"Dear All,
These are single-ended cars, and, like most streetcars, they'll take a very sharp radius. There may well be other cities offered down the road.
Have fun!
the Bach-man"

Hopefully Toronto would be offered in the second run of models (assuming that there is a second run offered).

Paul F.

Does your layout feature or include streetcars or other rail-transit equipment?

If so, would you mind sharing some details about your trolley/transit modeling?

Photos would be great, too.

Thanks, in advance, for your responses.

Paul F.

There is a picture of the model on another forum:

http://www.2guyzandsumtrains.com/Forums/viewtopic/p=48661.html#48661

You may need to scroll up from the bottom of the page.

Paul F.

You might check out:
http://www.dauphin-railwaymodel.jp/
They have HOn30 railcars (that could be turned into streetcars with the addition of a trolleypole) and a nifty switcher.
In pure HO, they have some interesting work motors and steeple cabs. 

Once, I kitbashed an IHC "birney" trolley into a HOn30 railbus, but it could have just as easily been turned into a narrow gauge, double truck trolley.

Paul F.