Quote from: jbrock27 on February 18, 2015, 01:25:56 PM
Re PT: Thank you Sunny for filing in the gap.  Just so you know and do not become unecessarily offended, I was not connecting what you have done to be related to the punchline of the PT Barnum thing. 

Take what you have learned here today from these good folks to be invaluable information and a good lesson in doing the research ahead of time.  Good luck!

I am not offended, if anything I am mad at myself for taking that big loco, but I made a deal and this guy has tons of stuff and I did not wish to offend him so I took the loco hoping it would work. I learned a lot yesterday, thank you all

To Roger T.
Naw it derails at every curve

Here is an interesting comparison, the drive wheels on my Mikado 2-8-2 are exactly the size of a dime and the drive wheels on the Bachman 4-8-2 are the size of a quarter. Just line up 4 dimes and then line up 4 quarters. you will see that 4 dimes are almost exactly as long as 3 quarters

PT said a sucker is born every minute
I will be very happy to get back what I paid for the Loco
I saw the same model for sale on model train stuff for 159.95 plus shipping, probably cost me 10 bucks worth of gas to go and get it
Damn the minute I saw it was a 4-8-4, I should have backed off, except that old man was scary as hell

Quote from: guslcp on February 18, 2015, 10:29:43 AM
Need a little more info...Was it just the pilot truck that derailed first and cause the main drivers to jump off the track..??..??  In my experience, B'mann pilot trucks will jump off the track at the slightest unevenness of the track or going through turnouts.  I fixed mine by gluing a small weight on top of the truck.

Gus,

two things are causing it to derail, the front truck jumps off at a rail joint in the turn and I noticed by slowly moving it into a turn that the two middle drive wheels also derail.

I will just put it on E bay and see if I can get back what I spent on it. I am not a collector, I just want to run my trains

How do you add photos on this forum???

Good Morning all, sorry to be the new guy causing all this confusion,
let me explain my situation. I wanted a larger steamer then my Life Like Mikado 2-8-2 smoker because I like to watch it run and see the drive rods working, but I wanted to run it either DC for now and DCC later when I have the money and yes I have to run it fast to make it smoke
I was looking at a BLI Paragon K4s 4-6-2 which has Smoke, runs on DC or DCC, and has full Tsumani type sounds and will run on 18R curves. I just assumed other manufacturers would also have similar locomotives. So I answered an ad on Craigs list for what I thought was a Bachman 4-6-2.
The seller, (an old belligerent type) told me he had sent his Bachman 4-6-2 back to Bachman for repairs and they sent him back another but better brand new Locomotive that was slightly different then his original and it was still in the original sealed shipping package and he did not want to open it until he had a firm buyer. He said it was DCC equipped and thought it smoked.
I drove over to see him and we agreed to his firm price of 160 bucks for this new DCC Locomotive
I cut open the sealed box and inside sure enough was a brand new Bachman DCC Western Pacific 4-8-4 #50206. we were both surprised and to my untrained eye it looked like it would work.
I thought I had made a killer deal
I took it home, put it on the layout, hit the throttle and it moved to the first turn where it promptly de railed. A few tries later I gave up and figured I got screwed. I looked it up on the Bachman web site and saw it was a 285.00 locomotive that I cannot use.
So here I am, the owner of this beautiful locomotive wondering what to do.
I just want a loco that is actually larger in size then my Mikado and does what I want it to do.

Quote from: Rod in PA on February 17, 2015, 04:00:15 PM
Hi Sunbeam2,

I have the Bachmann K4, item #84014, which was DCC equipped.  The tender does not have a speaker installed, but the floor had an area moulded for a 1" speaker.  The minimun radius of all curves on my layout is 18" and my Pennsy 4-6-2 operates just fine.

Here is a video of my steam engine roster that I posted awhile back.  The K4 appears last.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADa0EU7p-3Y

I hope this helps.

Rod in PA

Rod, that Tsunami Sound really make the trains come alive
Curious but when you buy a sound decoder do they come with a speaker installed

You can see how confusing this gets, on one reply a 4-6-2 is running on 18R track and on another reply it says you cannot do that, I saw a BLI 4-6-2 that says 18R, DCC, Smoke and all kinds of sounds perhaps I am confusing two brands here.
It seems to me that if these 4-6-2 are to HO scale then both should run on the same track and be the same size or am I confusing apples with oranges

Quote from: Rod in PA on February 17, 2015, 04:00:15 PM
Hi Sunbeam2,

I have the Bachmann K4, item #84014, which was DCC equipped.  The tender does not have a speaker installed, but the floor had an area moulded for a 1" speaker.  The minimun radius of all curves on my layout is 18" and my Pennsy 4-6-2 operates just fine.

Here is a video of my steam engine roster that I posted awhile back.  The K4 appears last.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADa0EU7p-3Y

I hope this helps.

Rod in PA

Wow you have a layout to die for, thanks for sharing

I am looking at a 84013 K4 4-6-2 the web site says min radius track is R18  but the Model train stuff website says min is R22

I see that engine is DCC ready, does the tender come with a speaker installed?

Is there another Bachman Loco around that size with DCC, Sound and Smoke that will run on 18R track?

I currently have a Mikado 2-8-2 that runs on my track but I want a larger engine that will also run on my track and track is all R18