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Title: Double Whammy
Post by: jowalmer on March 07, 2009, 11:24:54 PM
...as in two questions:

1)  my spectrum 8-40 started sqeeking tonite.  what maintenance is typical?

2)  how is one to know when you have too many cars behind the loco?

ok, here is a third: did anyone make the perris swap meet today?

thanks.  jim
Title: Re: Double Whammy
Post by: the Bach-man on March 08, 2009, 12:19:17 AM
Dear Jim,
You should give your loco a light lube after every twenty or so hours of use. If you try to pul too many cars your loco's wheels will simply slip.
Have fun!
the Bach-man
Title: Re: Double Whammy
Post by: jowalmer on March 08, 2009, 12:22:30 AM
Thanks Mr. Bach-man.  Question though, where does the light lube go and what is the lube.  I can't imagine I've had 20 hours yet, but even still, the squeeky wheel gets the grease, so to speak.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Double Whammy
Post by: pdlethbridge on March 08, 2009, 01:10:11 AM
MAKE SURE YOU USE PLASTIC COMPATIBLE LUBE. Things like wd 40, vasoline or 3 in 1 oil would ruin you engine
Title: Re: Double Whammy
Post by: Yampa Bob on March 08, 2009, 03:36:44 AM
I use Labelle 108 light oil, seems to work well. Use it very sparingly, a little bit goes a long way.
Title: Re: Double Whammy
Post by: jowalmer on March 08, 2009, 05:14:48 PM
Is labelle 108 a specialty type that only a hobby store will carry or will a local Ace have it?  Also since it is so new, I've only had it for about a month and a half and only run the thing when I have my son, is it possible that the squeek is coming from the wheels themselves.  I can't imagine that the gearing is dry and even if it is, I can't imagine that they would squeek.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Double Whammy
Post by: RAM on March 08, 2009, 10:40:08 PM
Yes you would need to get labelle 108 from a hobby shop.  I wonder if you may have something rubbing on the wheels.
Title: Re: Double Whammy
Post by: Santa Fe buff on March 08, 2009, 11:21:10 PM
I personally us Woodland Scenics Hob-E-Lube... I think they still make it, but I'm not sure if it's the best. All I know is that the bottle says, "(C) 1985", and that the lubricant seems to be find on gears. Well, it should be, it's the Gear Lube version! ;D

You can find an entire pack of lubricants in the Hob-E-Lube series on Walthers. It seems, though, that it is not in stock...

Good luck,
E-Z Lube provided by Bachmann is a sure answer instead of hunting of Hob-E-Lube.

Josh
Title: Re: Double Whammy
Post by: jward on March 09, 2009, 11:29:16 AM
i have a couple of spectrums that do the same thing. the squeak isn't in the gearing, it seems to be coming from the motor bearings themselves. i would put just a drop of the labelle oil on each motor bearing. there are two, located where the shft leaves the motor frame, on e on each end.
Title: Re: Double Whammy
Post by: Mike on March 09, 2009, 09:40:51 PM
Jim- For what it's worth, many ot the older "Plus" series diesels had motors that squealed, many times right out of the box. Consequently many dealers closed them out at around $10 each. That's why I own 40-some of them. I found that simply oiling theotor bearings provided a temporary fix. Better yet, DuPont makes a teflon fluid-based lubricant (available in a blue bottle from Lowe's, Home Depot, etc.) which, WHEN APPLIED IN VERY SMALL AMOUNTS, leaves a teflon residual which has stopped the noise and provided for smooth running in my locos. BE CAREFUL, I'M NOT SURE THE LIQUID IS PLASTIC COMPATIBLE. BUT SINCE I ONLY PUT IT ON THE METAL SHAFT WHERE IT ENTERED THE METAL MOTOR BEARING...AND LET THE LIQUID EVAPORATE, I have found it to be a very acceptable solution to the problem. As another on thus forum has said many times..."Your mileage may vary".- Mike
Title: Re: Double Whammy
Post by: buzzard975 on March 09, 2009, 10:24:02 PM
I'm new to the hobby too, but I was given a steam engine that was making a squeak I couldn't locate.  When I held a 9-volt to the wheels it wouldn't do it, which clued me in.  It was the cow catcher rubbing on the rails.  I was able to slide the bottom half of the body back and it stopped doing it.  Mabye that was a fluke but make sure you have a little clearance.
Title: Re: Double Whammy
Post by: jowalmer on March 09, 2009, 11:49:57 PM
All great responses.  Thanks so much.