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Discussion Boards => HO => Topic started by: tac on February 05, 2010, 11:37:23 AM

Title: N&W 611
Post by: tac on February 05, 2010, 11:37:23 AM
Afternoon, Bach-Mann.

Grrrrrrrr.  I bought the Bachmann N&W 611 from a UK dealer only to find, on opening it up, that that the canteen is missing.  His advert never mentioned this omission, either.

Are they available as a separate item?

tac
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Title: Re: N&W 611
Post by: ABC on February 05, 2010, 11:55:13 AM
You can contact the parts department for availability.
Title: Re: N&W 611
Post by: Atlantic Central on February 05, 2010, 01:19:48 PM
Yes they are sold seperately.

Was it advertised to have the aux tender?

Did the box have a space for the aux tender?

Bachmann has sold them both ways over the years.

http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/products.php?act=viewProd&productId=1890 (http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/products.php?act=viewProd&productId=1890)

No aux tender sold with this version of 611.

http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/products.php?act=viewProd&productId=133 (http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/products.php?act=viewProd&productId=133)

Or this one?

But these two are available seperately:

http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/products.php?act=viewProd&productId=268 (http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/products.php?act=viewProd&productId=268)

http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/products.php?act=viewProd&productId=269 (http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/products.php?act=viewProd&productId=269)

Sheldon
Title: Re: N&W 611
Post by: tac on February 05, 2010, 05:36:07 PM
Well, the packaging that my loco came in has the [empty] space for the canteen.....I'll order one from the relative address.

Thanks for the advice, guys.

tac
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Title: Re: N&W 611
Post by: ABC on February 05, 2010, 06:09:15 PM
I'm not familiar with the term canteen, I did not know you were talking about the auxiliary tender.
Title: Re: N&W 611
Post by: RAM on February 05, 2010, 06:42:18 PM
I would say to check with the dealer.
Title: Re: N&W 611
Post by: tac on February 05, 2010, 06:42:47 PM
Quote from: ABC on February 05, 2010, 06:09:15 PM
I'm not familiar with the term canteen, I did not know you were talking about the auxiliary tender.

Showing my age, here.  We alus usta call 'em canteens on account they held the water.  Hereabouts we speak as little French as we can help.

tac
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Title: Re: N&W 611
Post by: Jhanecker2 on February 05, 2010, 06:45:30 PM
Think of canteen in American English as a liquid holding device , also as an anglisized translation of cantina or a place to have beverages served in.   John II
Title: Re: N&W 611
Post by: ABC on February 05, 2010, 09:03:44 PM
Quote from: Jhanecker2 on February 05, 2010, 06:45:30 PM
Think of canteen in American English as a liquid holding device , also as an anglisized translation of cantina or a place to have beverages served in.   John II
I know what a canteen is, I just never knew an auxiliary water tender could be called a canteen, but it makes sense.
Title: Re: N&W 611
Post by: ebtnut on February 06, 2010, 05:17:55 PM
I have seen the term canteen used with reference to US steam, though it seems to me that it is mostly a term used west of the 100th meridian.
Title: Re: N&W 611
Post by: r0bert on February 06, 2010, 11:38:05 PM
not sure if they were marketed differently in the UK, but for the US models, the freight versions of the J came with the AUX tender, while the Passenger versions did not.
Title: Re: N&W 611
Post by: Atlantic Central on February 07, 2010, 08:17:25 AM
Quote from: r0bert on February 06, 2010, 11:38:05 PM
not sure if they were marketed differently in the UK, but for the US models, the freight versions of the J came with the AUX tender, while the Passenger versions did not.

So the real question might be did both passenger and freight versions use the same box/packaging? Thus explaining why the OP thought it was "missing".

Sheldon
Title: Re: N&W 611
Post by: tac on February 07, 2010, 08:59:48 AM
Quote from: r0bert on February 06, 2010, 11:38:05 PM
not sure if they were marketed differently in the UK, but for the US models, the freight versions of the J came with the AUX tender, while the Passenger versions did not.

Sorry, should have mentioned that I bought my loco - 608 [the freight version with the other tender]-  in the US of A.  I don't buy anything over here in UK.

I find it has an adverse effect on my wallet.

tac
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Title: Re: N&W 611
Post by: ABC on February 07, 2010, 11:29:06 AM
Quote from: Atlantic Central on February 07, 2010, 08:17:25 AM
So the real question might be did both passenger and freight versions use the same box/packaging? Thus explaining why the OP thought it was "missing".
The freight version box is different than the passenger version box, so that rules that out. But unless it was claimed to be factory brand new and not just brand new engine, with no mention of the tender, you can't do anything. It is possible this guy wasn't a Bachmann dealer, so if he wants he can take the aux. tender out and just sell the loco individually and you would have absolutely no recourse if this were the case.