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Title: Need help identifying this diesel locomotive please!
Post by: EvilLost on April 12, 2009, 07:32:06 PM
I have 2 diesel locomotives I am trying to sell but I can't seem to find out exactly what they are, any help would be appreciated!

The box is just "Williams Electric Trains" (No mention of Bachmann, makes me think it was pre-acquisition)
"Diesel Locomotive"
"3 Rail 'O' & 'O-27' Gauge"

The side where it would usually list the model name/number is just a blank white box. It says with handwritten pen "Penn. Shark - A".  The locomotive itself is all black with 1 gold stripe going horizontally across the center and "PENNSYLVANIA" written in the same gold color on it. The car # is 9632 (and I have another identical one with car #9633).

The box itself is grey, and in the bottom right there is a small diagonal red band that says "The Crown Edition Line".

I have tried a google/etc search but I can't seem to find the official name/model # for these 2 trains. Can anyone help!?
Title: Re: Need help identifying this diesel locomotive please!
Post by: DominicMazoch on April 12, 2009, 11:18:03 PM
Pre-WBB did make a passenger sets with AA Baldwin Shars with 3 heavyweight passenger cars.  Are the pass. cars heavyeights?
Title: Re: Need help identifying this diesel locomotive please!
Post by: EvilLost on April 12, 2009, 11:37:07 PM
I don't have any passenger cars, only the 2 diesel locomotives. I will try to upload some photos of them shortly
Title: Re: Need help identifying this diesel locomotive please!
Post by: Joe Satnik on April 13, 2009, 10:00:27 AM
Dear EL,

http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/2855404

I have catalogs form the 2003 to 2005 era that show a green 5 stripe Powered A - Dummy A set as SN-3002 MSRP $249.95
Photos show Brunswick (=dark) green.  B Units were also available as SN-3002B MSRP $99.95

Some catalogs had a 15% off sale. 

This website's products section drawing is a extremely poor representation of the green color.

You may have an earlier production run with a different box and possibly different road numbers and perhaps the earlier (first iteration) "True Blast" horn only.     

I can't read the road numbers in any of the photos that I have found. Sorry.

I'm sure that 3rail can provide you with more info.

Hope this helps.

Sincerely,

Joe Satnik 
Title: Re: Need help identifying this diesel locomotive please!
Post by: 3rail on April 13, 2009, 12:14:44 PM
Hi EvilLost,

If there is no label on the box the locomotives were most likely part of a set.  We offered box sets that included Sharks with 4 72' Madison cars, or 4 brass freight cars.  Other sets offered were sets with Alco PA and GP-7 locomotives.

It sounds like you have a Baldwin Shark as it written on the box.

Here is a link to our products listing for you to compare.  We don't have the single stripe version in the line right now.  This is the 5 stripe version.

http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/products.php?act=viewProd&productId=2285 (http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/products.php?act=viewProd&productId=2285)

Regards,

3rail