This is what is needed here, some stories of intiative! On the other thread Mike used the term 'forumites'. Too much armchair autopsies on other people's failure to ..try... Johnson bar's switch is the 1st 'mechanical'- or 'minimum' job all the new modelers must try. Asking for new lines to be produced even if there are only one or two interested parties on the planet ain't gonna happen. If you need something you can't find RTR, you MAKE it happen, not sit there an moan like a...forumite...,( I like this one, forumite!) I intend to use it often... suits a lot of people on here, too much time at the monitor, not enough at the workbench...btw, I found a Rivarossi Pulman in CPR... didn't know AHM or IHC did this sceme.... but with a jewel's loop, I found that some modeler (bet he wasn't a forumite') airbrushed and decaled and clearcoated this thing to Rivarossi silkscreen standards. I haven't yet heard someone ask how to aply or improve thier painting or decaling skills, but a bunch of 'forumites' demand a production line to suit thier whims...yah, for a price, like, sell the 1st born kid? BTW, forumites need to use search engines more. Someone said there wasn't enough Victorian era models out there, last night on ebay I found everything I bought over the years- Pocher, Rivarossi, AHM, IHC. Mantua, Tyco, Concor, MDC/ Roundhouse. Lifelike and...Bachmann! Those were just the woodburning era RTR's, never mind the craftsman kits. And I don't even have a real computor, this is a msntv affair. OK folks, log off, get back to the workbench.... come up with some modeling questions........ like the 2-4-4-2 logger mentioned on another thread, like from 2 AHM docksides and a pvc pipe boiler? that was one I did in the 80's, before they even made bra$$ ones... (I like the dollar signs some one typed in a thread too!)