This discussion (idea) has entered the Atlas N scale fourm... and everyone is saying that BACHMANN should make a K4.
Seems logical.
Someone has to make one... and with the # of sales, it can't be a profit question... I mean how much could tooling cost?

you have to believe that a K4 would be equally big a seller as the N&W J or Kato's SP Daylight... or the GG1 for that matter. Kato makes the beautiful broadway limited set... that must be selling well (there are now 3 different GG1s and a set of E8's for it from Kato alone!).
I'm sure everyone that bought that will snatch up a K4 as soon as one is available!
Options are great once a heavy pacific running gear is produced...
steamlined... pre war... post war...
plus pretty much every road had a heavy pacific.
It's going to happen...
The question is when and by who.

I'll buy at least 2.
If Bachmann (or anyone else for that matter) ever makes a B&O heavy pacific, I'm in for 4. Plus the pair of K4's...
So that's 6 for me!

Skip... wow. You've got talent.
Hey BachMAN!~ you watching this?
I can't undserstand why there aren't more of these made... by SOMEONE. There has to be a bunch of modelers that would be interested in an EM-1, or a P7 (I love the Cincinatian, and would buy one immediately, but am equally interested in the standard P7 and late era modified "standard" P7)...
The Big Six is pretty... are you in the Maryland/Baltimore/DC area? In an N Trak? I'd love to check that thing out!
If you enjoy modifying locos, you should consider a little business... you're really good at it!

Well... um... okay... it runs.
That is an amazing job! If only anyone (A HEM) would mass produce something of near that stunning quality! And in B&O!
The Heavy Mountain is easly made into a reasonable B&O T4, but I'd love to have a good T3, S1, Q1-4, EM1, and P7 rounding the layout I'm building...
Beautiful skip... just beautiful!

Pretty much exactly like that!
Where did you get the B&O front? High headlight? Do you think you could modify a Model Power Pacific or Mikado similarly to make them more prototypically B&O?
Is there a you tube video of that loco half finished? Along with a streamlined P7 you were working on?
That's pretty impressive work.
Does it run?

I'd like a 2-10-2 that could be made into a B&O S class "big six".
But make a B&O boiler front... domed smoke box w/ a high headlight.
It really comletes the look!

PLEASE go STEAM!
The 2-8-0 and Heavy 4-8-2 were home runs!
How about a Heavy 4-6-2? No one is making one of those (K4)!

(I'm dying for a B&O P7 and a PRR K4)

Also, re-releasing the Heavy 4-8-2 in different road names (B&O had a nice group... see T3 and T4 class), and the T4's were purchased from boston and maine...

Or smaller-
Spectrum 0-6-0

B&O in a second road # would be nice!

The topic of an N scale K4 has been brought up on pretty much every n scale forum I've seen. There is definitely a demand for someone to make it.
People are clamoring for the 30 year old Trix model... what does that tell you?
I can't understand how one is not made... or a ALCO 55,000 prototype based heavy pacific (PRR added the Belpaire firebox, but about 15 roads used Pacifics based on the same model).
The heavy pacific was the mainstay passenger power for nearly every road in existence until the 4-8-4 was introduced in the late 40's. With the K4 as a lead, a smart manufacturer could make similar models using the same basic shell and running gear for PRR, B&O, NYC, Reading, Erie, Southern, Southern Pacific, AT&SF, Katy, Canadian Pacific...
with little variations they could be very road specific... headlight placement, steam pumps...
I'm personally dying for a K4 and a B&O P7.
I'll buy several of each as soon as anyone makes them.
Please?

Eric...
How do you join the Atlas forum? I've tried about a thousand times, and no matter how I enable cookies, I never get a reply from the moderator! He probably thinks I'm stalking him!

Every time I walk passed the HO display case at my local hobby shop I have to pause and shed a mournful tear as I look at the line-up of locos... It's just not fair!
How is there not a K4 or NYC Hudson?
B&O President? Atlantic?
The steam vacancies in N scale are overwhelming... and now that quality is sharply on the rise, hopefully those openings in our steam rosters will start filling in!

Broadway Limited made a mistake by beginning their N steam line with the M1 mountain, because of it's limited scope and on the heels of Bachmann's great Heavy Mountain model. However, beginning with a K4, and using that to model a variety of heavy pacifics would have been a much more cost-effective way to go...

I really just want a K4.

I'm in for one... even though my h-6 came with an eccentric rod popped off, and I've never gotten around to returning it... lazy... I'm not really a C&O runner, but keep seeing an actual one at the B&O museum and thought it looks amazing.
How about a B&O EM1?

heavy or light?
The heavy mountains were an absolute home run, maybe one of the top three n scale steam releases ever... but the light mountains are completely different. Won't pull, have wheels out of gauge...
I have a 4-8-4 J and a heavy mountain, and each run on 9.75" radius curves, although the J doesn't like it!
My Heavy mountain is the best and most reliable steam loco I own!
Gave up on the light.

I have a decent set of con-cor heavyweights in B&O, and a terrible set from model power in PRR livery... neither stack up to what Kato just did with the Daylight and Broadway Limited.
As for a Pacific... I just can't understand how a mainstay for passenger power for nearly every road out there is missing from the N scale pantheon. Sure there is the Model Power light Pacific, which is good, but a front line locomotive.
Looking at the sales of the Kato GS-4, with a limited market (only one road name to produce, and the train only ran from Portland, OR to Los Angeles), coupled with the success of the Bachmann heavy mountain, there is plenty of reason to believe that a well made, easily DCC compatible Heavy Pacific would be well received.
If someone would go as far as to make road specific adjustments, which Model Power has not, like high mounted headlights, belpaire fireboxes, feedwater heaters, etc., one could REALLY make a great model that could become one of the top level releases in N scale... right there with the Kato Mikado.
Base the prototype off of ALCO's "50,000" prototype that was the basis for most heavy pacifics that railroads used...
It is a can't miss.

Yes. Please. Anyone. Make a K4. And a heavy pacific in B&O. A heavy pacific can be run in more roads than the heavy mountain... and will sell at least as well... if it is made as well. MAKE IT!!!