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Title: oiling the electric motor shaft on ON30 4-6-0 locomotives.
Post by: JoeSG on January 11, 2013, 07:31:24 PM
How do you remove the body, or for that matter what do you need to remove to lube the motor on the 4-6-0?  I have the NP&S set and after several years of operation at XMAS time, I think it needs to have some lube added to the shaft of motor. Do you remove the upper portion of the boiler or the cab? The drawings don't show what to do.
Title: Re: oiling the electric motor shaft on ON30 4-6-0 locomotives.
Post by: richg on January 11, 2013, 07:46:09 PM
Before doing that, what makes you think the motor needs lubrication? What are the symptoms?

Rich
Title: Re: oiling the electric motor shaft on ON30 4-6-0 locomotives.
Post by: JoeSG on January 27, 2013, 09:22:30 PM
I have had the loco for a for 6 years now and run it quite a bit at Xmas time, several hours a day and I think its time. I have had trains for around 57 years now and I know when it's time for a little bit of lubing
Title: Re: oiling the electric motor shaft on ON30 4-6-0 locomotives.
Post by: bobwrgt on January 30, 2013, 06:37:11 AM
Looks like you have to remove both the cab and boiler to expose the motor. Just one drop of oil on the front and rear shaft to the motor works wonders. While apart you might as well add some grease to the worm gear. Spin it a few times and it will transfer to the other gears.

Bob
Title: Re: oiling the electric motor shaft on ON30 4-6-0 locomotives.
Post by: TimR on January 30, 2013, 10:59:52 AM
My issue, and perhaps it is the same for Joe, is that I can't get the boiler off. After removing the front truck and the all the screws on the underside, you can slip the angled handrails out of the boiler near the smokebox, but the boiler doesn't budge. It is like there is a screw down inside the smokestack OR some hidden plastic tab that holds the boiler firmly in place. The exploded parts diagram doesn't show a screw like that, but I'm not sure what else could be holding so firmly in place unless it as actually glued or something. I like the locos way too much to try to force them apart and possibly break them. (I have 4 of them and like Joe, would like to perform a bit of maintenance and maybe convert them to DCC so I can use them on the same layout as the rest of my roster)
Title: Re: oiling the electric motor shaft on ON30 4-6-0 locomotives.
Post by: mabloodhound on January 30, 2013, 03:43:45 PM
First, the Bachmann On30 4-6-0 is a new locomotive, released a year ago, not 6 years, so it shouldn't need oiling.
However, if you have something different, look in the smokestack fro the screw.   Many boilers are held on with that screw.
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Title: Re: oiling the electric motor shaft on ON30 4-6-0 locomotives.
Post by: bobwrgt on January 30, 2013, 07:13:37 PM
Not sure on the 4 6 0 but on the 2 6 0 you have to slide the boiler forward while lifting up.

Bob
Title: Re: oiling the electric motor shaft on ON30 4-6-0 locomotives.
Post by: TimR on January 31, 2013, 11:23:33 AM
By golly, y'all might be right. Not sure now if it was the 2-6-0 or the 4-6-0 I was having an issue with. I think these locos may have originally come in sets, so they were probably the 2-6-0. I'll check further for that screw. Thanks.  :)
Title: Re: oiling the electric motor shaft on ON30 4-6-0 locomotives.
Post by: JoeSG on February 07, 2013, 10:29:15 PM
Sorry been off line for a while, Yes the Locomotive in Question is a 2-6-0, Northpole and Southern original set. I'll have to attempt to remove it by sliding the whole assembly forward and see what happens. And I agree there is not a screw shown as holding the upper body to the frame other than the one that appears to go through the smokestack. All the guy the does worki for me and I were able to do was damage one sanding pipe. Sure would be nice of Bachmann printed up a better blown up drawing of the locomotive. or maybe a spot on youtube.
Title: Re: oiling the electric motor shaft on ON30 4-6-0 locomotives.
Post by: willis on February 08, 2013, 08:06:43 PM
JoeSG
go to pacificcoastairlinerr.com, they show taking one apart to install a decoder.
Willis.