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Title: Bachmann CSX DCC control not working
Post by: rookie123 on October 01, 2014, 08:39:54 AM
I just purchased a Bachmann HO CSX #8833 Dark Future EMD SD40-2 Diesel from Amazon which is described with DCC Control for direction, speed and lighting. However I cannot get it to respond to the programing with the Bachmann DCC Ez Controller.

It does not move when initially on position 3 but the small noise it makes stops when I hold button 3, hold the stop button and then release. I then try to address it with button 4, the small sound returns but it will not move in either direction.

Any ideas on what I should do now?
Rookie
Title: Re: Bachmann CSX DCC control not working
Post by: Hunt on October 01, 2014, 03:20:44 PM
What you are experiencing indicates you have a locomotive without a decoder installed.

Click Here  (http://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=258_288_302&products_id=4746) to read Bachmann description of the locomotive. 
Title: Re: Bachmann CSX DCC control not working
Post by: Doneldon on October 01, 2014, 06:08:36 PM
rook-

You are risking serious damage to your locomotive if you keep trying to get it to operate on DCC when it lacks a decoder.

                                                                                                                                                                        -- D

Title: Re: Bachmann CSX DCC control not working
Post by: Jerrys HO on October 01, 2014, 06:17:02 PM
Rookie,
According to Bachmann's web store the 8833 is DCC ready (no decoder). The 8861 is DCC on board. Check your purchase with Amazon they may have sent the wrong one.
Here is the web store page...

http://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=258_288_302

Looking at Amazon's ad it appears it is wrong.....

http://www.amazon.com/Bachmann-Industries-Future-SD40-2-Locomotive/dp/B00BFCU31I

I would contact Amazon and have them make good on your purchase now that I have supplied the proof you need.

Jerry

Jerry
Title: Re: Bachmann CSX DCC control not working
Post by: richg on October 01, 2014, 06:35:05 PM
I just checked Amazon for:  

Bachmann HO CSX #8833 Dark Future EMD SD40-2

and it comes up as DCC Equipped.

Pull the shell and check the couplings. A decoder will have a bunch of surface mount components if there is a decoder in it.

The below PC board is for DC only.

http://estore.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=66_68_187&products_id=1329

The below is for onboard DCC

http://estore.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=66_68_187&products_id=1329

Rich
Title: Re: Bachmann CSX DCC control not working
Post by: richg on October 01, 2014, 06:41:39 PM
Quote from: Jerrys HO on October 01, 2014, 06:17:02 PM
Rookie,
According to Bachmann's web store the 8833 is DCC ready (no decoder). The 8861 is DCC on board. Check your purchase with Amazon they may have sent the wrong one.
Here is the web store page...

http://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=258_288_302

Looking at Amazon's ad it appears it is wrong.....

http://www.amazon.com/Bachmann-Industries-Future-SD40-2-Locomotive/dp/B00BFCU31I

I would contact Amazon and have them make good on your purchase now that I have supplied the proof you need.

Jerry

Jerry

Jerry is correct. Both numbers come up as DCC equipped at Amazon. You got the DCC ready no doubt with DC adapter in place. Press #10 and it should run.
Free shipping to send it back.
I have sent back items to Amazon with no problems. Just follow their instructions.

First thing I saw was the price at Amazon that told me it is not DCC. $53

DCC equipped, $150

Make sure you write a review at Amazon.

Rich
Title: Re: Bachmann CSX DCC control not working
Post by: jbrock27 on October 01, 2014, 07:13:57 PM
Gee whiz, was that loco supplied and shipped by The Favorite Spot??
Title: Re: Bachmann CSX DCC control not working
Post by: jbrock27 on October 01, 2014, 07:16:33 PM
Another Gee Whiz: A review of this loco posted on AMAZON from 5/19/14 alerts of this very same issue-no DCC as advertised ::)
Title: Re: Bachmann CSX DCC control not working
Post by: Doneldon on October 01, 2014, 07:35:12 PM
If the OP were an old hand instead of a rookie, by his own statement, I'd think he thought he was making a killing by buying his Berk for $53. As it is, I can sure understand that this was an innocent error. And, frankly, if Amazon knew of this problem from a previous transaction, I'd say that the OP should be able to return his loco and get a sound and DCC model to replace it. However, I just searched for "Bachmann HO Berkshire" and didn't find one with sound and DCC for less than $215.65.
                                           -- D
Title: Re: Bachmann CSX DCC control not working
Post by: jbrock27 on October 01, 2014, 07:48:19 PM
The review was posted over 4 months ago for anyone to read who would take the time to, Doc.  I am sure you are familar with the adage, "look, before you leap"??  How about the old Wall Street one?  "The bulls make money, the bears make money and the pigs get slaughtered". 
Title: Re: Bachmann CSX DCC control not working
Post by: richg on October 01, 2014, 07:49:35 PM
They will cover this. The return instructions are very clear as I have returned items before.
Amazon has different reasons listed.
You can print out the return label very easily.

Rich

Title: Re: Bachmann CSX DCC control not working
Post by: jbrock27 on October 01, 2014, 07:54:52 PM
No reason it should not be covered, but that's not the point.
The point, being missed is, no reason to be in the position to have to send it back in the first place, if not for a little research and paying attention, beforehand.  Reading is still fundamental and doing the research first can be invaluable.
Title: Re: Bachmann CSX DCC control not working
Post by: jbrock27 on October 01, 2014, 08:03:10 PM
And for old times sake, I'll throw out another one:  "if it's too good to be true, then it isn't".
Title: Re: Bachmann CSX DCC control not working
Post by: richg on October 01, 2014, 08:07:31 PM
Quote from: jbrock27 on October 01, 2014, 07:54:52 PM
No reason it should not be covered, but that's not the point.
The point, being missed is, no reason to be in the position to have to send it back in the first place, if not for a little research and paying attention, beforehand.  Reading is still fundamental and doing the research first can be invaluable.

Caveat emptor in all things.
Prior knowledge is a great help. The price was a red flag when you know the street prices.
About a dozen times I saw things in Amazon reviews that steered me away from a product.

Reading, how many come into the forums and never do any reading in the Bachmann site before posting?

Kind of doubt the OP will be back.

Rich
Title: Re: Bachmann CSX DCC control not working
Post by: richg on October 01, 2014, 08:08:19 PM
Quote from: jbrock27 on October 01, 2014, 08:03:10 PM
And for old times sake, I'll throw out another one:  "if it's too good to be true, then it isn't".

Always.

Rich
Title: Re: Bachmann CSX DCC control not working
Post by: jbrock27 on October 01, 2014, 08:11:43 PM
I am in 100% agreement with you!!
The exception is, don't be so pessemistic about Rook .  He'll be back.  And I am sure he will learn something valuable from this lesson.  Sadly, one of the best ways we all learn, is by making mistakes.  But like the kid who gets in a motor vehicle accident bc of texting, some mistakes are easily avoided.
Title: Re: Bachmann CSX DCC control not working
Post by: Jerrys HO on October 01, 2014, 09:10:52 PM
Quote from: Doneldon on October 01, 2014, 07:35:12 PM
If the OP were an old hand instead of a rookie, by his own statement, I'd think he thought he was making a killing by buying his Berk for $53. As it is, I can sure understand that this was an innocent error. And, frankly, if Amazon knew of this problem from a previous transaction, I'd say that the OP should be able to return his loco and get a sound and DCC model to replace it. However, I just searched for "Bachmann HO Berkshire" and didn't find one with sound and DCC for less than $215.65.
                                           -- D


Don, Time to clean the specs? ???  CSX SD40-2 / Berkshire?  Bedtime young man and no ice cream.
Title: Re: Bachmann CSX DCC control not working
Post by: rookie123 on October 02, 2014, 07:21:08 AM
Guys I did not realize this site had some members that would offered so many non-contributing comments. I sure hope what you posted made your day. I just ate ice cream and laughed while reading..........

Rookie
Title: Re: Bachmann CSX DCC control not working
Post by: jbrock27 on October 02, 2014, 07:35:15 AM
What do you mean by "non-contributing" exactly?
Title: Re: Bachmann CSX DCC control not working
Post by: Doneldon on October 02, 2014, 08:59:21 PM
Quote from: Jerrys HO on October 01, 2014, 09:10:52 PM
[Don, Time to clean the specs? ???  CSX SD40-2 / Berkshire?  Bedtime young man and no ice cream.

Jerry-

This isn't even a problem with the specs. It's more like an out-and-out hallucination. I have no idea whatsoever what got me thinking Berkshire. I read through all of the posts and was unable to find what set me off. Thanks for bringing me back to the real world.
                                                                                                                                                                         -- D
Title: Re: Bachmann CSX DCC control not working
Post by: Jerrys HO on October 02, 2014, 09:47:24 PM
D,
There was a post on a Berk recently in General Discussion but I have a feeling that was not it. Reading through several topics I also have the tendency to confuse which one I am reading and posting on.
I assume ( yes, ass u me ) you are a steam type of guy where as I love my diesels.

Jerry
Title: Re: Bachmann CSX DCC control not working
Post by: jbrock27 on October 03, 2014, 06:52:17 AM
Talk about non-contributing comments ::)....